I guess you intend to watch teen gay drama from the west and it´s narrative of nopes.
I'm not quite sure what you were trying to say, but I usually find western "BLs" pretty boring because of their need for a too perfect queer representation.
My only complaint is that Thitnuea's hair is a totally different color from shot to shot. I think light pink is…
Yes and this is exactly why I need to remember that most people would rather have characters with similar hairstyles than actors looking less attractive because of bad choices.
I do agree that there should've been a better management regarding the hair to make it stay in one colour throughout the episode. But I personally would rather see Nuea working as a part-time chameleon if it means I can clearly recognise him as soon as he enters the room. Same with Pavel's one, he'd just look like a different person to me with a different hairstyle and I can't see attractiveness anyways. So for me I prefer him to have as distinguishing hairstyle as possible. (Though I want to clarify that I realise this is mainly a me problem and I wrote the original comment not to complain, but to note down my realisation as until now I thought other people needed more help with character recognition as well).
I'd personally clasify at least the first 3 eps as a slice of life story. Or as I see the genre, they're stories depicting regular everyday lives of people with no features of extraordinary or exaggerated plot. Your definition could certainly be different though! From what I've seen, slice of life has never been a very popular genre for the exact reason that most people find it too uneventful, but I've personally always enjoyed these stories. I don't find Coffee Melody boring while there were plenty of higher rated dramas I struggled to sit through.
With the clothing, it's not that much of a symbolism, it just shows Yi's mood which doesn't really need to be pointed out. I don't recall him wearing colour other than beige in the first 3 eps, but then he suddenly picked grey for ep 4. It's nothing significant, but I liked to notice it as a detail.
This comment section is making me realise how little the people who can remember faces care about character design lol. It seems like not many others share this sentiment, but I for one love how each of the characters has a unique hairstyle which makes them easily identifiable even without knowing what their face looks like. I've never had such an easy experience with remembering characters in a drama before and it might be one of the reasons why I'm quite liking this so far (well, I also just generally like slice of life stories which seem to not be favoured around here either haha). Also the detail of Yi always wearing beige colour, but exchanging it for grey in ep 4 was quite a nice subtle idea as well.
I feel like ep 1 was solely trying to establish the whole premise of the plot and only hinting at all the issues without properly explaining why those things were happening and the actions of the characters. It's only in ep 2 where everything starts being cleared up and explained so I'm finally less confused and have become actually interested in the story lol.
That was really interesting! Honestly I hope the colour had more like a nuance to all the episode, like, Idk,…
I'm thinking there's a reason why the colour is sometimes highlighted on clothes and other times in the background, but rarely both at once.
Magenta will either be a significant colour later or this episode featured special circumstances which were not eligible for including the title colour through most of the scenes. Actually, I was just going through the episodes and noticed that there's a flashback at 6 minutes in ep 3 pt 2 with a mixture of magenta and blue (and green at the very end), very similar to the scene of Talay running in ep 4 pt 4. So I guess there might be more hints about certain colours in different episodes.
I could've sworn I had written down that exact theory, but then scrapped it and I have no idea why lmao. But I do think that's correct, it's a great observation! Either it's their pov or the colour could highlight which one of them the scene has an importance for. The instances when the colour doesn't appear at all may indicate that it's no one's pov or that the scene itself isn't important in relation to the title colour.
I hope you'll be able to notice something interesting as well then! Also I paid no attention to the existence of ep 0 so I should probably watch that too lol.
Your observations make me want to watch again those episodes hahaThanks, it was interesting!!
Thank you! By any means do feel free to rewatch everything or pay more attention to the colours next ep, I'd love to see more people note down their observations and theories :)
The colour theory by clothing is still the most interesting factor of this drama for me so I wanted to continue writing down my observations :) No actual theories because I'm not smart enough for that, just things I've noticed.
Ep 3 - "Soft blush" (or just light pink) This one is is actually really interesting since there are multiple scenes where Tun is the one wearing the title shade of colour while Talay isn't . In the first episode there were several scenes where both wore the title colour (ocean blue), ep 2 only had Talay wear forest green, but in this one they were switching it up in every clothing change. Exception was the ending where Talay ended up with the title colour twice in a row. Also Talay mostly wore clothing with some kind of pattern on it in past 2 eps, but this time he had everything in clean colour; there were only stripes on his red suit in the very last scene. Also last interesting thing I noted is that this was the first time Tun wore red, matching Talay's red suit in another part.
Ep 4 - "Deep magenta" Magenta, the colour located right in-between blue and red on the colour wheel. (this is a stretch, but could red be ep 7 then?) After displaying the title, we were shown a room in magenta colours (mixed with yellow), but neither of the two was wearing a clothing in that shade. In fact, they'd changed clothes yet still kept on a piece of the same colour as in the previous scene (red and brown). Even in the first scene in the glass dome, red and brown were the only prominent colours besides the blues and greens. Magenta flowers only showed in the background of the second scene. It seems to me that the combination of brown and red appeared in the background of the majority of scenes which might be interesting since I think brown is coming up next. The wedding bouquet's flowers, spray paint, lighting in Talay's room while he was thinking about Tun, the light in the lift and the room with Dol were all magenta. Except for the studio room, one thing these scenes had in common was Talay going through sad emotions due to Tun's actions. The only instance of Talay wearing magenta was at the very end which was also the first happy scene with this colour.
There is also a lot of blue lighting in several scenes of this episode (most notably at the end when it mixes with magenta). Blue is definitely the main colour of the drama since it has been the most prominent colour since ep 1. Considering all the transmigrators wore it at the start, it might be highlighting the important scenes to do with searching for a portkey.
The unfortunate fact is I got so into the colour observations that I currently care more about this than the plot lmao.
I'd picked up this drama completely at random and ended up liking the uniqueness of it, the girls all have strong personalities which work quite well in balance with the unconventional topics that aren't often discussed in dramas to this day. It's a huge shame that the pacing of the story ended up ruining my experience. There were so many scenes and conversations which were completely unnecessary and dragged out and I found myself spamming the forward button in each episode. I wish this had been made as a mini series instead because I would've found short episodes much more enjoyable.
Also is it just me who interpreted the final plotwist to be that Pharm and Dean were possessed by spirits who had unfinished business on Earth and therefore couldn't leave? Korn wanted to stay with In and felt regretful towards In and his family, while In had a lot of unresolved anger at Korn and his family who he thought was the reason why Korn left him. So the spirits possessed the first new-borns and their presence began growing stronger as Pharm and Dean kept interacting. And when In finally came to understand that the two families forgave each other and he shouldn't be mad at Korn, In felt at peace and finally could leave which resulted in Korn going with him as well. That's why in their final scene they'd said goodbye to Dean and Pharm and the flashbacks stopped.
I don't know, this just makes more sense to me than Pharm gradually turning into In because he flashbacked too hard.
I feel like this must've been quite a revolutionary Thai drama back when all the other BL protagonists were too busy trying to prove that they can love their male wifeys while still being straight. However it has unfortunately not transcended its time and if this came out now it'd probably be labelled as pretty underwhelming.
On the other hand though, it's making me feel quite hopeful for the future. If this was regarded as some of the best titles in 2019, seeing how much better the dramas in every following year were proves that the Thai BL industry is changing for the better very fast and we should keep seeing improvements in the future as well.
i just wanted to ask in what episode will be side couple story scenes, couse i'm in episode 7 and i'm feeling…
They literally get no relationship development before getting together and even after that they have very little scenes. If you're only watching this for the side couple, I recommend you to just fast forward each episode to the 5 minutes of screen time these two get.
Honestly, the things that have interested me about this the most so far are all the miniscule changes to the universe (love the erasure of homophobia and those can cups which can conveniently hide alcohol brands) and the distinct clothing style of the main characters lol. Puen/Tun mostly wears neutral or faded colours (especially blue) with clean designs; jeans and simple t-shirts, sometimes with a jacket on top. Tess/Talay, on the other hand, prefers bright colours with symmetrical designs on his tops. What I find the most interesting about his clothing is that in each episode he has mostly worn the colour corresponding to the title of current or previous episode. So in ep 1 he always had a blue piece of clothing and in 2 it's been a mixture of green and blue (except for one fully white fit, a brown sweater and the school uniform). Going off that, my prediction for the next ep's name is "Salmon Pink" :)
I have no idea if this observation is relevant to the story, though I reckon some colour theory would be very fitting for this drama. It's just something I wanted to share mostly because it's one of the best character designs I've seen in a drama and I'd love to see more creativity like this in the future.
(Also in relation to my observation there's an Easter egg I'd noticed in last ep: during Talay's first meeting with the universe travellers circle Dol was the only person in the room who wasn't wearing a piece of blue clothing. So if that was a hint at a future plotline, it was quite a clever way to do it).
I've started paying extra attention to memorising their clothing and that has been working quite well for me so…
Yeah, I did have to manually remember all the changes in clothing, but I'd rather do that than be confused lol. Also I'm glad this isn't a college setting and they aren't all wearing the exact same uniform because in that case I'd be absolutely lost in figuring out who's who
I'm so confused lol I wish they didn't keep showing different faces and different names, it's hard to keep track
I've started paying extra attention to memorising their clothing and that has been working quite well for me so far so maybe you could try that for the next episode :)
The ending had mix reviews because of different expectations. But the ending is not enough to put down a very…
I personally hadn't lowered my rating either, but I did see quite a lot of people saying they were disappointed with it which gave me the impression that some of them did lower their overall score by .5 or 1 star. I guess that group wasn't as big as a thought though, seems like most of us kept our higher ratings.
I completely agree with you, when I started watching this after 9 episodes were released I got so into the story…
If you have an experience with actual criticism then I understand your approach even more. For us who have no idea about how to review dramas/films objectively it is difficult to figure out which factors to consider and how to disconnect personal feelings from our impression of the media. I personally indeed wouldn't lower the rating of my favourite drama lol. But I think it's admirable you're still sticking to your principle of rating everything based on criticism instead of being like everyone else and adding in some personal opinions.
And thank you too for sharing your own perspective because it's nice to hear about other approaches and the thought process of someone who rates dramas differently compared to majority!
I'm quite surprised that Triage is now the top rated BL drama on this site because I was expecting the rating to slightly decrease after the finale. Well, I'm curious if the position is going to last or whether the raised expectations of new viewers will lead them to go for lower scores.
I completely agree with you, when I started watching this after 9 episodes were released I got so into the story…
In my case if I only have a 10 to the dramas which I thought had no flaws, nothing would ever get that rating from me lol. I tend to give extra stars to dramas which leave a deep impression on me, are able to make me sympathise with the characters and make me feel any kind of strong emotion while watching (and similarly deduct stars if the opposite happens). It's how I add the personal bias into my ratings since I think my own enjoyment should be a part of the evaluation, though I still do consider all the objective aspects as well. But I completely respect your way of rating too. It also does make perfect sense to reserve the highest score for a very few selected dramas which can meet all your standards rather than being like me and giving out 10s to dramas of which issues I can clearly point out. It's understandable that we have different criteria and standards.
Also there are so many reasons why ratings will never be reliable which is why I always read top reviews instead.
*sigh* I'm sure this is an unpopular opinion, but the last few episodes and the finale weren't good (but the series…
I completely agree with you, when I started watching this after 9 episodes were released I got so into the story that I'd binge-watched it faster than any other drama before. However, the last 3 episodes have just felt too unexciting. All the episodes seemed to have just gone by and the only shocking thing were the sudden unjustified changes in characters and relationships in the last loop which just made me feel like I'd missed a whole episode. The story was simply missing something that could create suspense and then deliver the final plotwist.
I did still give it 10 stars since it has reached the top of standard compared to other BLs, but it's a huge shame this is yet another drama which has fallen a victim to its lack of episodes and the amazing writing of the majority of the story fell apart at the very end.
I do agree that there should've been a better management regarding the hair to make it stay in one colour throughout the episode. But I personally would rather see Nuea working as a part-time chameleon if it means I can clearly recognise him as soon as he enters the room.
Same with Pavel's one, he'd just look like a different person to me with a different hairstyle and I can't see attractiveness anyways. So for me I prefer him to have as distinguishing hairstyle as possible.
(Though I want to clarify that I realise this is mainly a me problem and I wrote the original comment not to complain, but to note down my realisation as until now I thought other people needed more help with character recognition as well).
I'd personally clasify at least the first 3 eps as a slice of life story. Or as I see the genre, they're stories depicting regular everyday lives of people with no features of extraordinary or exaggerated plot. Your definition could certainly be different though!
From what I've seen, slice of life has never been a very popular genre for the exact reason that most people find it too uneventful, but I've personally always enjoyed these stories. I don't find Coffee Melody boring while there were plenty of higher rated dramas I struggled to sit through.
With the clothing, it's not that much of a symbolism, it just shows Yi's mood which doesn't really need to be pointed out. I don't recall him wearing colour other than beige in the first 3 eps, but then he suddenly picked grey for ep 4. It's nothing significant, but I liked to notice it as a detail.
Also the detail of Yi always wearing beige colour, but exchanging it for grey in ep 4 was quite a nice subtle idea as well.
Magenta will either be a significant colour later or this episode featured special circumstances which were not eligible for including the title colour through most of the scenes.
Actually, I was just going through the episodes and noticed that there's a flashback at 6 minutes in ep 3 pt 2 with a mixture of magenta and blue (and green at the very end), very similar to the scene of Talay running in ep 4 pt 4. So I guess there might be more hints about certain colours in different episodes.
I could've sworn I had written down that exact theory, but then scrapped it and I have no idea why lmao. But I do think that's correct, it's a great observation! Either it's their pov or the colour could highlight which one of them the scene has an importance for. The instances when the colour doesn't appear at all may indicate that it's no one's pov or that the scene itself isn't important in relation to the title colour.
I hope you'll be able to notice something interesting as well then!
Also I paid no attention to the existence of ep 0 so I should probably watch that too lol.
Ep 3 - "Soft blush" (or just light pink)
This one is is actually really interesting since there are multiple scenes where Tun is the one wearing the title shade of colour while Talay isn't . In the first episode there were several scenes where both wore the title colour (ocean blue), ep 2 only had Talay wear forest green, but in this one they were switching it up in every clothing change. Exception was the ending where Talay ended up with the title colour twice in a row.
Also Talay mostly wore clothing with some kind of pattern on it in past 2 eps, but this time he had everything in clean colour; there were only stripes on his red suit in the very last scene. Also last interesting thing I noted is that this was the first time Tun wore red, matching Talay's red suit in another part.
Ep 4 - "Deep magenta"
Magenta, the colour located right in-between blue and red on the colour wheel. (this is a stretch, but could red be ep 7 then?)
After displaying the title, we were shown a room in magenta colours (mixed with yellow), but neither of the two was wearing a clothing in that shade. In fact, they'd changed clothes yet still kept on a piece of the same colour as in the previous scene (red and brown). Even in the first scene in the glass dome, red and brown were the only prominent colours besides the blues and greens. Magenta flowers only showed in the background of the second scene. It seems to me that the combination of brown and red appeared in the background of the majority of scenes which might be interesting since I think brown is coming up next.
The wedding bouquet's flowers, spray paint, lighting in Talay's room while he was thinking about Tun, the light in the lift and the room with Dol were all magenta. Except for the studio room, one thing these scenes had in common was Talay going through sad emotions due to Tun's actions. The only instance of Talay wearing magenta was at the very end which was also the first happy scene with this colour.
There is also a lot of blue lighting in several scenes of this episode (most notably at the end when it mixes with magenta). Blue is definitely the main colour of the drama since it has been the most prominent colour since ep 1. Considering all the transmigrators wore it at the start, it might be highlighting the important scenes to do with searching for a portkey.
The unfortunate fact is I got so into the colour observations that I currently care more about this than the plot lmao.
It's a huge shame that the pacing of the story ended up ruining my experience. There were so many scenes and conversations which were completely unnecessary and dragged out and I found myself spamming the forward button in each episode. I wish this had been made as a mini series instead because I would've found short episodes much more enjoyable.
I don't know, this just makes more sense to me than Pharm gradually turning into In because he flashbacked too hard.
On the other hand though, it's making me feel quite hopeful for the future. If this was regarded as some of the best titles in 2019, seeing how much better the dramas in every following year were proves that the Thai BL industry is changing for the better very fast and we should keep seeing improvements in the future as well.
Puen/Tun mostly wears neutral or faded colours (especially blue) with clean designs; jeans and simple t-shirts, sometimes with a jacket on top. Tess/Talay, on the other hand, prefers bright colours with symmetrical designs on his tops. What I find the most interesting about his clothing is that in each episode he has mostly worn the colour corresponding to the title of current or previous episode. So in ep 1 he always had a blue piece of clothing and in 2 it's been a mixture of green and blue (except for one fully white fit, a brown sweater and the school uniform). Going off that, my prediction for the next ep's name is "Salmon Pink" :)
I have no idea if this observation is relevant to the story, though I reckon some colour theory would be very fitting for this drama. It's just something I wanted to share mostly because it's one of the best character designs I've seen in a drama and I'd love to see more creativity like this in the future.
(Also in relation to my observation there's an Easter egg I'd noticed in last ep: during Talay's first meeting with the universe travellers circle Dol was the only person in the room who wasn't wearing a piece of blue clothing. So if that was a hint at a future plotline, it was quite a clever way to do it).
Also I'm glad this isn't a college setting and they aren't all wearing the exact same uniform because in that case I'd be absolutely lost in figuring out who's who
But I think it's admirable you're still sticking to your principle of rating everything based on criticism instead of being like everyone else and adding in some personal opinions.
And thank you too for sharing your own perspective because it's nice to hear about other approaches and the thought process of someone who rates dramas differently compared to majority!
Well, I'm curious if the position is going to last or whether the raised expectations of new viewers will lead them to go for lower scores.
But I completely respect your way of rating too. It also does make perfect sense to reserve the highest score for a very few selected dramas which can meet all your standards rather than being like me and giving out 10s to dramas of which issues I can clearly point out. It's understandable that we have different criteria and standards.
Also there are so many reasons why ratings will never be reliable which is why I always read top reviews instead.
However, the last 3 episodes have just felt too unexciting. All the episodes seemed to have just gone by and the only shocking thing were the sudden unjustified changes in characters and relationships in the last loop which just made me feel like I'd missed a whole episode. The story was simply missing something that could create suspense and then deliver the final plotwist.
I did still give it 10 stars since it has reached the top of standard compared to other BLs, but it's a huge shame this is yet another drama which has fallen a victim to its lack of episodes and the amazing writing of the majority of the story fell apart at the very end.