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boutux
wow in epi 8 she lost points with me. she was utterly disgusting to her father. honestly i found her unforgivable in this epi. she really deserves the worst ending in this drama doesn't she? i mean she trashes the good single fathers every chance she gets, she is admittedly a gold digger, she is willing to do almost anything as long as it is the means to her dream future. she is basically not a good person at all. she does not deserve the pill bug and a happy ending.
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Kawaikochan
boutux, i signed in just to make the same comment. The way she treated her father in this episode broke my heart to the point where I honestly think she is unforgivable. It would take years for them to make enough episodes to bring her out of this hole in my opinion. Also, until episode 7, I had absolutely no problem with her gold digging ways and her relationship with shindo sensei. They were both honest with each other from the beginning. In episode 8, in addition to displaying unconscionable behavior towards her father, she has turned into a lying, shameless gold digger. Sota would be much better off with Ririka than with this terrible woman. She truly deserves to live an lonely existence so that she has no more chances to degrade or use any more people. This episode is really pushing the boundary on how much I can dislike a main character but still watch the drama.
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NinaJade82
Levy wrote: really and truly she won no points with me in epi 7. i have never liked a drama yet despise the lead character before. at this point i don't think she deserves the pillbug(forgot his name) or mr. shindo. even though i know she would never end up with shindo cuz ...well what would be the point of this being a romance drama? i like mr shindo though cuz he's been honest with her about what he wants or expects from her, he knows she doesn't love him and that is not what their relationship is about. it just kinda pissed me off that she did what she did at the end of epi 7, she has been so selfish this entire drama. in real life a person like that would end up alone.


True. I agree on this as well. I was very angry that she stood him up just like that. I always feel bad when that happens whether the character is the main or not, because its just wrong. I still liked the fact that she soften at pillbugs loneliness, and that she wasn't thinking about some materialistic future, putting that before feelings like she often does... although, like you and Kawaikochan have said, she should have taken care of things differently. What more can you ask from a selfish person? lol If i could only take Shindo-san....



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NinaJade82
Serenityflower wrote: boutux, i signed in just to make the same comment. The way she treated her father in this episode broke my heart to the point where I honestly think she is unforgivable. It would take years for them to make enough episodes to bring her out of this hole in my opinion. Also, until episode 7, I had absolutely no problem with her gold digging ways and her relationship with shindo sensei. They were both honest with each other from the beginning. In episode 8, in addition to displaying unconscionable behavior towards her father, she has turned into a lying, shameless gold digger. Sota would be much better off with Ririka than with this terrible woman. She truly deserves to live an lonely existence so that she has no more chances to degrade or use any more people. This episode is really pushing the boundary on how much I can dislike a main character but still watch the drama.


I havent seen this episode, and by the looks of it I will be hitting the screen several times. I better wait until everyone leaves the house, unless I want them to think Im completely crazy. LOL. So.... there is no hope for her after all is there? tsk, tsk, tsk. Too bad!!! lol
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boutux
Biancka wrote: I havent seen this episode, and by the looks of it I will be hitting the screen several times. I better wait until everyone leaves the house, unless I want them to think Im completely crazy. LOL. So.... there is no hope for her after all is there? tsk, tsk, tsk. Too bad!!! lol


you have no idea how difficult a time i had watching part 1 of epi 8. i could not believe that someone could be that superficial and treat their father that way. she has never even considered that she has her dad to thank for her being the person that she is. not that she's a good person but she obviously loves herself and has been able to accomplish everything she set her mind to and that is all because of her dad is a hopeless do-gooder and very poor but he was still a loving father. *spoiler* everyone else could appreciate her dad but her* and that really bothered me. probably cuz i was raised by a single dad too but nonetheless in this episode she really got under my skin, i don't think there is a way to redeem this character and make her likable to the audience after this epi.
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Kawaikochan
Biancka wrote: I havent seen this episode, and by the looks of it I will be hitting the screen several times. I better wait until everyone leaves the house, unless I want them to think Im completely crazy. LOL. So.... there is no hope for her after all is there? tsk, tsk, tsk. Too bad!!! lol


Come back after you watch it. We may need to have a support group cuz just thinking about episode 8 makes me mad, lol.
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Revy
Seriously how damn adorable is the child actress that plays Wakaba.
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Kawaikochan
She is super cute, especially when she does something successful, hehe. What happened to that Wakaba....
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Kawaikochan
*MAJOR SPOILER*

DO NOT READ UNLESS YOU'VE FINISHED EPISODE 9 OR DON'T CARE.

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omg even her confession sucked.
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Revy
I liked her confession. It was definitely something Wakaba would say
Damn you Shindo. why why???
Also damn you Sota. Don't you know being a noble idiot will not get you anywhere.
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Kawaikochan
jeonguk wrote: It was definitely something Wakaba would say


That's exactly why I didn't like it. At this point i'm looking for something that shows she's a changed person. Sigh. I guess I will just have to end the series without liking her. The rest of the season may be very frustrating.
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boutux
no seriously i agree with kawaikochan.

spoiler directly quote below. don't read if u have not seen epi 9
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she takes off the ring given to her the man she pursued from the moment she met him and thought he could get her to her dream future and says to sato "...i like you. i think it's stupid myself too. but even still it's true. i love you, pill bug."

seriously that is ur confession of love. i think it's stupid to like you but regardless that's how i feel. what?! and to make it worse she didn't even call him by his name she called him in the stupid denigrating nickname she made for him. why did she bother even taking off the ring? honestly this woman is repulsive. if a man treated a woman like that everyone would be up in arms about it. she deserved what she got at the end of the epi. that was poetic justice. soyoka has been good to sato from the beginning. she stood up for him and helped him at the risk of being fired without him having to ask. wakaba refused to help him until it was too late. one has to question which of these 2 women really loves sato? it's just a pity he loves the one that's a selfish twit.

:D after every epi i think to myself i can't believe how much i love this drama despite how much i hate wakaba. testament to a great cast, good acting and a good story.
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boutux
sorry i kept typing sato. ryo's character is sota.
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Jeaniessi
I'm on episode 7 of this drama right now. This is the 2nd Japanese drama I've watched. (I'm starting Hana Kimi too!) Anyway, Wakaba is very tough to take sometimes. She is materialistic and harsh. Her world view is stunted and she can be very hard and cold. Shota is so kind to everyone and to her that when she is cruel I want to kick her in the pants. But then the show offers up a flashback of Wakaba's hard childhood and I begin to soften and forgive her. Girl went through Hell! I have a lot of hope for this drama...that they are going to show us Wakaba's awakening. Not only of her love for Shota but for herself. She needs to learn what love is not just for a man but for life in general. I watching her conflict everytime she is shown a ray of love or a way of viewing things that are contrary to her limited knowledge I like it! I don't know how many episodes this drama will end up being but the only bad thing I can see is if, as time goes on, they don't fully show Wakaba stepping into the light and growing as a character. I am hopeful for her. I like Shota's character very much as well and I don't want him to end up with her if she ultimately doesn't grow enough to deserve him!
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boutux
jeanie i was saying the same thing before epi 8. that epi did wakaba in for me. i wonder if u will feel the same way kawaikochan and i felt after epi 8. when u watch 8 and 9 come back and tells us if u still feel the same. and i agree she does not deserve sota.
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