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Lululove15  2 days ago

So i have a question. How did XL not feel the pain when she was attacked with the beasts and the other bit only feel the pain from the last attack that killed her. I need explanation pls

AH  VIP a day ago

Just because it wasn't shown on screen doesn't mean that XL didn't feel XY's pain or emotions when the beasts attacked and when her foot was stabbed, or that he didn't have any reaction to XY's pain / emotions in those moments. Maybe the director felt showing his reaction to those moments every time would break the flow of the scene. XL has probably gotten pretty good at hiding his outward reactions to XY's pain too, so it might be difficult to convey his reactions to those attacks on screen. Showing his reaction to the last attack was the most important, because that attack was deadly and prompted XL to drop everything and run to her.

Kokuto  a day ago

That's a good point. I mean, XL felt XY getting her hands beaten by A Nian, and we were shown he thought about going to XY, and then didn't, in part because it wasn't lethal, and in part because he knew TuShan Jing was there ... even if he thought TSJ was falling down on the job at that moment. It's like that, plus more, given how many people XY has around her now.

AH  VIP a day ago

@Kokuto

Agreed. In addition to the hand-beating not being lethal and TSJ being with XY, there were at least two other reasons that might have factored into XL not going to her even though they showed XL feeling XY's pain on screen.

(1) XY rejected XL's offer to try to rescue her when her leg was broken (a more serious injury) in the previous episode.

(2) Reaching the shore of Five Gods Mountain from the ocean and rescuing XY from ZX's men there would have been difficult. XY thought it would be a death sentence. Rescuing XY from inside the Grand Emperor of Haoling's court would be even more impossible. Trying to do so might cause XY more harm than good.

It's also worth noting that showing XL's reaction to the broken leg and hand-beating on screen was created for the drama. Those scenes aren't included in the novel - he just shows up to offer to rescue XY after her leg is broken and doesn't show up when her hands are beaten. He also didn't call TSJ useless.

Kokuto  a day ago

@AH Yes, those probably played into XL's decision not to go during the A Nian incident.

Didn't know that. It's a nice add. It reminds us even if they don't show every instance, he is sharing her pain and emotion.

Saipriya  a day ago

In future does Xiaoyao retain her spiritual power?

AH  VIP a day ago

She does not regain her spiritual power, but (in addition to her poison skills) she becomes a very proficient archer and gains the ability to breathe under water without any assistance and to swim under water almost as well as XL. So she is stronger and better able to defend herself near the end of the novel.

Aimikomi  a day ago

@AH I sense more heartaches in Season 2 for us Yaoliu fans lol

AH  VIP a day ago

@Aimikomi For sure. But as long as my favourite parts from the novel are still shown, I'm kind of looking forward to it? ^^

Aimikomi  21 hours ago

@AH Could you tell me your favorite parts?

AH  VIP 20 hours ago

@Aimikomi It would be very difficult to put all of them here succinctly, but I'll mention a few of my favourite parts that occur after XY's assassination.

Chapter 22 - During XY's healing period, XL takes her to the surface to observe the moon, takes her to hear the songs of the merpeople, and tells her a bit about his past. XL isn't sure if she is awake or not at this point, and when it comes up later (in chapter 26) it is clear that XL doesn't want XY to be aware of the things he told her while she was healing, so XY pretends she wasn't awake.

Chapter 23 - XY wishes she was born a few hundred years earlier so she could save XL from the slave death matches and make him just be like her companion FBB, and not XL (i.e., a man who can be her companion, not the man who cannot abandon Gong Gong and his cause, an army strategist who is her family's enemy and a warrior bent on a warrior's death).

Chapter 26 - When XY sees TSJ for the first time in a year after his marriage to FFYY she is alone (it's ZX's wedding day) and XY's heart is in pain. XL takes her away and they spend a night and a day in the ocean together, and eat a meal together on an island. XY thinks to herself (not out loud) that, if it were possible, she would like to spend the rest of her life like this. XL describes the beauty that can be found on the islands scattered across the sea, and XY tells him she wants to see them.

Chapter 43 - XL saves XY from danger. XY sees XL's true demon form. XL drinks blood from XY's neck to heal. XY falls asleep on top of XL / in his arms. XY says she will agree to any price (unrelated to ZX) if he helps her find a demon. XL makes her promise to live. XY wonders if she had met XL years earlier, could he have found the woman he loved? Would he take her out to shop and eat?

Chapter 46 - When XY cannot bring herself to kill XL, XL smiles at her. It appears to be a mocking smile, but that was just hiding his true joy. XL pushes XY to cut ties with him, because he knows he is going to die soon (the defeat of his army is imminent). XL creates the jewel that will save TSJ's life and gives it to the merman who will revive him.

Chapter 48 - XL saves XY from death a second time, but this time secretly. He also kills the poisonous bugs (using a life and stabbing himself in the heart to do so - and he does not use XY's blood to heal himself afterwards) to sever the connection between them, so that when he dies XY will live and not feel him die. He covers his tracks so XY won't know what he's done for her.

Chapter 50 - XY has mixed feelings when she finds out her poisonous bug connection with XL has been broken. XY asks ZX to spare XL's life (even though she has cut ties with him and she knows her life is no longer connected to his).

Chapter 51 - XY is devastated by XL's death. In the end, she disappears with TSJ (the man XL resurrected for XY to rely on) to the ocean (the place where XY belongs, thanks to XL's essential blood). Perhaps to explore the beauties of its scattered islands that XL described to her.

Aimikomi  19 hours ago

@AH I cannot wait for Season 2. Even though in the end Xiang Liu is gone, but part of him will still be with her as she found her home in the ocean which was she first enjoyed with Xiang Liu and only him.

BNA a day ago

What episode does she give up being QM?

BNA a day ago

they didn't even put those scenes wow

AH  VIP a day ago

Do you mean when does XY give upon on becoming the Royal Mother of Jade Mountain? That happens after her second death and resurrection (the one that actually involves blood from XL's tongue). It hasn't been covered in the drama yet. It comes much closer to the end.

BNA a day ago

Ah okay, I don’t really remember the novel much.

Alysha Johnson  a day ago

Sometime I find life so ironic.
XY's mother chose her XL, paid for it with her life, and left behind a young XY ridden with enemies.
If her mother had chosen differently, XY would have grow up with love and safety like A'nian. Then she would have the courage to love someone like XL. That means that either her mother or her will choose their XL, but only one of them can. XY already paid the price for her mother's decision. No wonder she can't do it again.

Had XY not came back as the Haoling princess, I think she would have a chance with XL - but that doesn't matter either because he will choose to die anyway, the same way as XY's dad. If they have a child together, that child future will be like XY. XL and XY future is already determined before XY was even born.

Cc2  19 hours ago

I think the key here is the author. I read somewhere that she really wanted XL to be endgame but she just couldn’t figure out how to go about it.

XL’s dedication to the Chen Rong army was always the biggest issue. I know it’s lazy writing but I wouldn’t mind a moment of epiphany for him or something lol

AH  VIP 13 hours ago

At least twice in the novel, XY wonders if things could have been different if she met XL before he met Gong Gong and joined the Sheng Nong army (e.g., if she had been born earlier and saved him from the slave death match arena). I feel like if the writers wanted to give a boon to the YaoLiu shippers, they could show us an extended version of that fantasy where XY and XL meet earlier in his life, they fall in love, have lots of dates (exploring the ocean and its islands, eating, shopping, etc. - all things the novel says XY wants to do), get married, and have kids. If it was a fantasy, the details wouldn't have to be fully fleshed out or totally make sense. And they wouldn't have to change XL's character or ending.

ClaraIp  16 hours ago

Question about XL

ClaraIp  16 hours ago

How did he die in the nov? I thought he had nine lives.

Bloom C  16 hours ago

he gave away all his life source to save Jing

Susuwatari789  15 hours ago

If you want spoilers, there is a reason he is consuming so much poison in his body-🎆🧨🎇☄️❤️‍🔥

Also he already gave 2 lives to XYao and his powers are low

You can also click on “Recent Discussion “ thread that are more detailed 🙂

ClaraIp  14 hours ago

@Susuwatari789 Wait! When did he give 2 lives?

AH  VIP 14 hours ago

XL uses at least one of his lives to revive XY after her assassination (she mentions it in chapter 26 of the novel). He might also use one of his lives to revive XY a second time after she poisons herself to death (the process seems different, so it's not totally clear, and the novel doesn't specify one way or the other). He also uses a jewel that he creates from XY's blood to bring TSJ back from the dead. He might have used a life as part of that process as well (the novel doesn't specify that he does).

XL definitely uses a life to kill the poisonous bugs and sever his connection with XY before the final battle where he knows he will die (the novel does specify this).

Apart from the two lives he definitely used for XY and the possible two additional lives he might have used for XY and TSJ, it's not 100% clear how XL loses his other lives. He may have lost a few in the slave death matches before he escaped. He may have lost a few in war. Or he might not have lost any before, and loses them all in the final battle. The novel doesn't specify.

In terms of how he dies, it's important to know that right before the final battle he revives XY (the second time) and kills the poisonous bugs. Both steps required significant power and left XL injured and drained. He doesn't use XY's blood to heal himself before going to the final battle.

After protracted fighting XL (disguised as Gong Gong) leads the last 1,000 soldiers of Sheng Nong's army to an island where they make their last stand against 100,000 Xuan Yuan soldiers. Even though XL was heavily injured at this point, not even the strongest Xuan Yuan warrior could defeat him. He was finally killed when 10,000 arrows were fired at him at once.

AH  VIP

3 days ago

 chase_kayden:

Also about  "In the novel, we don't know how he gets the information, but he is still the one who suggests transferring the bug and he is immediately able to control the connection between him and XY so that XY can't feel his pain or emotions (except for one instance where he intentionally lets her feel his pain). "

When did he intentionally let XY feel his pain?

Chapter 32 of the novel. 

Xiao Yao turned to leave and Xiang Liu said: “A word of reminder, the voodoo bug still connects us so if you tell the world I’m Fang Feng Bei, don’t blame me if I hurt your heart and you die from the pain.” Xiao Yao stopped and looked back at Xiang Liu. “Don’t believe me?”  Xiao Yao’s heart was suddenly cut with so much pain like a sword pierced it, the pain so excruciating she fell on the ground in a slump. 

Xiang Liu appeared to hold her life in his hands and he coldly said “If you don’t want to die, then don’t say a word!” Xiao Yao was in such pain her face was ashen and cold sweat dotted her face. She sat up and smiled. “Is this the reason you never had time to go to Jiu Li to break the voodoo bug? You want to control my life and death so that one day you can hold me hostage to your will? General Xiang Liu, you really are something!”

Xiang Liu smiled and turned to leave. With a whistle his white condor descended and he vaulted on its back and disappeared in the clouds. The pain in Xiao Yao’s heart vanished but it was so painful that her body was still weak and needed some time to recover her strength. After some time, she slowly got up and walked towards town. 

chase_kayden VIP

3 days ago

@AH Thank you for sharing. But is XL injured or something at that point, which is why XY felt such pain?

TurboMuffin 

3 days ago

 chase_kayden:

@AH Thank you for sharing. But is XL injured or something at that point, which is why XY felt such pain?

XL has greater spiritual power so he is able to control the bug better than she can cos she lost her power from the 8 tail fox. When she's able to feel certain things it's because XL experienced unexpected things so he lost control momentarily before keeping a firm hold again. 

AH  VIP

3 days ago

 chase_kayden:

@AH Thank you for sharing. But is XL injured or something at that point, which is why XY felt such pain?

He doesn't seem to be injured at that point in the narrative, but the novel doesn't clarify how he is able to cause XY so much pain through the connection. In my mind, there are at least three possibilities: 

(1) XL is so powerful that he can cause XY pain through the lovers' bug connection even if / when he is not personally experiencing any pain;

(2) XL was able to send more pain than what he was currently experiencing through the connection (e.g., by tapping into or amplifying his current or past physical and emotional pain); or

(3) XL was actually experiencing that much pain at that point (keeping in mind that this can include emotional pain and he's about to leave XY + is intentionally causing her pain in this scene) and he just lets XY experience it unfiltered. 

Given the dynamics of the scene, I feel like the implication is that scenario 1 is the most likely. 

AH  VIP

3 days ago

 TurboMuffin:When she's able to feel certain things it's because XL experienced unexpected things so he lost control momentarily before keeping a firm hold again. 

@chase_kayden, adding to TurboMuffin's note: 

An example of XL momentarily losing control of the connection is when XY feels XL's heartbeat on a few occasions, but each time only briefly before XL regains control. 

chase_kayden VIP

3 days ago

 AH :

@chase_kayden, adding to TurboMuffin's note: 

An example of XL momentarily losing control of the connection is when XY feels XL's heartbeat on a few occasions, but each time only briefly before XL regains control. 

Thank you once again for explaining. I was aware that since XL is strong, he blocks anything that he feels so it won't reach XY. 

I did read about that one certain moment where XY felt XL's heartbeat as well when they were together.

Has XY never entertained the idea that XL possibly loves her? Or prolly that idea is always thrown out of the window every time XL does what he always does, being cold to her and acting like he doesn't care?

AH  VIP

3 days ago

 chase_kayden:Has XY never entertained the idea that XL possibly loves her? Or prolly that idea is always thrown out of the window every time XL does what he always does, being cold to her and acting like he doesn't care?

I sped read the novel, binge watched the episodes that have aired, and skipped a lot in both... so my collective knowledge is a bit patchy and mixed up. Plus this is maybe open to interpretation. That said, my sense is that XY never thought that XL was in love with her, but there were times that she thought they were genuinely friends and that he cared about her to some extent. So she still ends up feeling hurt when he intentionally acts cold and tries to create distance between them. 

In XY's defence, XL does a lot of things to make it harder for her to recognize his true feelings. He runs hot and cold, sometimes seeming soft in one moment, only to hurt her in the next. He makes deals for things that he's happy to get but that aren't his true objective (e.g., meeting one request without question / getting a mountain peak where he can bury his soldiers) to mask his real objectives. He uses their connection (he feels her pain / her dying might result in him dying) as an excuse for why he helps her. And sometimes he is even intentionally cruel to her to make sure that she misunderstands his feelings.

From what I remember, XY never found out that XL suggested transferring and willingly received the lover's bug fully knowing what the bug was (meaning, he already knew at that point that he had feelings for XY - otherwise he would be risking both their lives). She finds out that XL knew some information about the bugs before she did, but not the full extent. And she doesn't accept the idea that their bugs and their connection is just like the bugs and connection that the Voodoo King describes, because that would necessarily mean that she loved XL and XL loved her for 70+ years at that point. 

TurboMuffin 

3 days ago

yea the girl is able to compartmentalize and let her mind run away from actual truth.

same with her cousin being in love with her  - the selective hearing and ignoring her brother's obvious feelings.

She also tests XL/FFB - she would make flippant remarks..wait , didnt get the response quick enough or change her mind cos she didnt want to hear brutal rejection and changes topic