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Replying to Aramintai Jun 28, 2026
Title The First Jasmine Spoiler
MJL was defeated by the leads and killed by tons of arrows. He tried to breach the palace to kill the emperor.
He fought FL first, then ML came to help her. They beat him and then ML ordered to shoot arrows at him cuz he wasn't submitting.
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Replying to Adventurous Vulture Jun 28, 2026
Title The First Jasmine Spoiler
Can anyone tell me who killed MJL or he is still alive by the end?
MJL was defeated by the leads and killed by tons of arrows. He tried to breach the palace to kill the emperor.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Jun 28, 2026
I don't know. The ending just felt anti-climatic and filler. I have to think about why I feel kind of dissatisfied.
Tbh, the last couple of episodes before the finale were very filler-y. Even though that whole long rebellion was shown behind the scenes. Probably could have shortened the drama by a few episodes.
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Replying to Ying Yuan Jun 28, 2026
Title The First Jasmine Spoiler
Can you tell me if it's a happy or sad ending??
It's a happy ending.
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Replying to whoissilmoy Jun 28, 2026
The verified is 6.79 which is alarmingly low at this stage for an 8.6. I wonder what's up with that.
You talking about MDL scores here? They are biased af, I gave up on them long ago. Too many obsessed fans giving 10/10s to mediocre plots.
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Replying to whoissilmoy Jun 28, 2026
Title The First Jasmine Spoiler
It’s an interesting review. You pointed out a lot of negative critiques yet still gave it an 8. The production…
You have to agree, Mo Li has flaws. It's far from being perfect. I tried to give my honest opinion on them in detail.

Also, interesting you comparing MLs of these dramas. I also think that WXY was a more interesting ML. He also worked very well together with FL through all the plot, spending way more time with her in general. And there was never any doubt about their budding romantic feelings.

Leads in Mo Li were working and plotting on their own for the larger part of the drama. Not aligning their goals or fully trusting each other on the one hand, but trying to play devoted married couple on the other.
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Replying to Aramintai Jun 28, 2026
1. The plot slowed down considerbably. They took a very sweet time to show everybody's epilogues. Could have shortened…
It's def not FL actress's fault here, she had way better performed romances. The actress hard carried this drama, honestly.

Some other person mentioned it's the script writer's mo. I'm also putting the blame on the directors - that one single lackluster bed scene that we had here was filmed at such weird angles, it made me wonder whether they're also allergic to romance.
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Replying to allysann Jun 28, 2026
I need a space for my mental thoughts. I was really excited about the lead actors for this show, with a female…
They really fked up the romance part here. I don't think it's the actors' fault here even. It's just how it was written, prudishly filmed and cut.

And I agree about questionably cut scenes as well. At times haphazard; at times abrupt; at times mulling over something too long; at times mentioning names but not showing who the f they are; at times showing people but we've no clue who they are; lots of "blink and you miss it" plot points. Could have been filmed more coherently.
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Replying to Aramintai Jun 28, 2026
Title The First Jasmine Spoiler
I've finished watching express. Unfortunately the drama peaked at Lishan mountain arc. After that it was a predictable,…
1. The plot slowed down considerbably. They took a very sweet time to show everybody's epilogues. Could have shortened it by around 2 episodes and nothing of real value'd be lost.
2. The rebellion was quelled behind the scenes likely due to lack of budget.
3. SML died in a questionably choreographed last ditch effort to storm the capital. They lacked background soldiers even there, though had enough budget for a giant CGI Go board.
4. The empress dowager wasn't killed. She fell ill after everybody started guilt tripping her with her past mistakes and died.
5. The young emperor vowed to be good and started working full power.
6. Lishan academy got reopened with many new students. FL's shop's accountant guy was promoted to new headmaster position.
7. Canbei princess really died. SAD! But at least ML's merchant friend got to kill the evil Su bish.
8. The dumb assassin who was following FL around didn't do anything of notice to repay her 2 lives. His brother also died. Missed opportunity.
9. SFL was driven to a small frontier town by SML and stayed there to grow flowers or some sht.
10. The leads had another great opportunity to have a bed scene after FL went to visit ML in the army but they didn't even kiss. In the end, no extra romantic scenes, no kissing, no children. Looks like the director is a fkn prude, it's not that this drama aired on CCTV, I've seen dramas airing on it with passionate romantic scenes, nothing cut. Heck, even FL's previous drama Unveil: Jadewind had more going on between the leads, even though it was a detective drama for the most part.
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On The First Jasmine Jun 28, 2026
I've finished watching express. Unfortunately the drama peaked at Lishan mountain arc. After that it was a predictable, by the book slog until the very end. I'm sure lots of people will try defending it as 10/10 or whatever, it sure was an emotional ride at times, but the endgame episodes made me consider lowering the score again.
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Replying to Ximena Jun 28, 2026
It was a plot hole, just like Ye Li hid the edict under the seat cushion in the crime scene after Princess of…
Yea, that also was important and completely omitted. Judging by the very inept investigation, I can only speculate that since they not only didn't arrest and interrogate all suspects, they also didn't search the room. The only conscious suspect was neither detained, nor interrogated, so it's no wonder they didn't do the rest of the work properly either.
So likely she just sent somebody later to retreive it.
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Replying to 4lisha Jun 28, 2026
Basically he needed someone loyal to the crown and with a good reputation to come and state that the edict was…
Now you just seem to be trolling.

First off, just to be clear, that "duke Hua" theory is just speculataion by people trying to make it make any sense. It is never explicitly stated anywhere in the drama so far what ML's brother was hoping for by stashing the edict. He simply waited in jail like a dumbass. Hence the whole argument here. I think that "duke Hua" theory spawned after FL presented the edict in court and it was him who jumped in to authenticate it.

Second, stashing the edict and 100% condemning yourself and all those people you're responsible for to certain death is not saving anybody either. He knew what was going on and that marquis is corrupt af and definitely gonna kill him. Playing into his hands deliberately is a very dumb move.

Third, trusting a random woman (if you think he didn't know her) with no foolproof plan over your own military decision, however flawed, is also not making him any smarter here.
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Replying to 4lisha Jun 28, 2026
Basically he needed someone loyal to the crown and with a good reputation to come and state that the edict was…
What you’re saying here exactly reinforces the frustration with him stashing the edict. No edict - charges of treason, everybody executed. But the guy just strolled into the city without it knowing full well the consequences. Waiting for duke Hua coming to the rescue was such a dumb hail mary bet on a maybe as well. Duke was too busy fighting off the rival country to come. And even dumber was trusting the dowager’s best friend, who also didn’t have a foolproof plan. You basically just reinforced my opinion that it is a poorly written plot hole.
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Replying to 4lisha Jun 27, 2026
Basically he needed someone loyal to the crown and with a good reputation to come and state that the edict was…
If the army wasn't his and soldiers only followed orders, why the ef they had to kill all of them? I've also seen a number of these historical dramas and generals usually have such loyalty over their armies there, they'd follow them anywhere. And situation at that time had no clear chain of command, so he should have acted for the benefit of who was legitimately next in line, namely SML, and helping his faction. If nothing extra will be shown, then ML's brother was just an indecisive, naive fool. Especially seeing how he got duped by FL's mother. A poor general material.
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Replying to Salwa Nice Jun 27, 2026
I'm also thinking about it.. Empress Dowager's flashback scene reveals that it was ED who asked Yeli's mother…
I don't think it would have been better when it comes's to FL's character - them adding her mental trauma and Lishan mountain mystery is the main highlight of the drama that makes it fresh. If they copied the novel's plot, it would have been yet another forgettable historical romance drama with regurgitated plot.
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Replying to MariaB Jun 27, 2026
He was summoned by the dying emperor to protect the crown prince. By the time he arrived, the emperor had died,…
Be sure to post in my discussions post about the edict if you find something. I'll update it.
I've rewatched up until episode 15 and nothing new.
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Replying to dayidream Jun 27, 2026
I really love this drama.. if you love romance dont miss it. I know other genres are hold huge screen time but…
I prefer complete package. Here part of it was not delivered.
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Replying to dayidream Jun 27, 2026
I really love this drama.. if you love romance dont miss it. I know other genres are hold huge screen time but…
Their romance here is a slice of life, skipping steps straight to the endgame, old married couple type. It lacks passion and sexual tension. Maybe because FL is just too stunted due to her trauma and ML's too reserved. But it has plenty of hand holding, head laying on the knees, caring for each other and cheerful conversations (sometimes overly cheerful to a point it looks forced from FL). ML shows more passion in being jealous and wary of FL's shenanigans, and FL acts most natural when she's executing her schemes and suffering from her trauma.

They met a few times before. And they even tried assuring us later that FL was in love with ML ever since he saved her one time when she was a teen, but it looked more like a teenage crush than anything else, tbh.
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