ok so these people are mad just because they mentioned the Saudi royalty lmao so dumb really dumb. no there was…
Leaving a comment here so that others can know that I do not co-sign your xenophobic views and that any interpretation of my comment being in agreement with you is purely your own misunderstanding.
ok so these people are mad just because they mentioned the Saudi royalty lmao so dumb really dumb. no there was…
I agree that it felt shoe-horned in. I canāt think of a reason why they would reference it. They really could have used any other royal family. Thatās why I think k-dramas should stop referencing Arabs, the Saudi Royal family (even if theyāre mentioning them because theyāre the richest royal family), and the Middle East. Heck, I even think they should stop referencing South Asians and Africa.
I'm seeing comments that really don't like it but I love it myself - seems like I found my people š¤£š¤£š¤£
Always a nice feeling when you find your people. Also, I really wish viewers would know the difference between ānot for meā and āthis series is badā. Iāve come across so many shows that I recognise are not for me but I donāt rate them low because of that. Just because itās not my cup of tea doesnāt mean itās objectively bad. I usually just move right along to the next series and leave the ones that are not for me alone.
ok so these people are mad just because they mentioned the Saudi royalty lmao so dumb really dumb. no there was…
I think it was a reference to how even royalty couldnāt get front row tickets. Thereās also a reference about not including the Middle East on the tour list, although itās stated that the tour locations were selected at random. (Perhaps there was a real controversy for a K-pop group irl but I wouldnāt know which group).
Honestly, I donāt know why k-dramas just donāt stop referencing Arabs. It doesnāt matter if they do so in a good light or bad light, itās just not worth the hassle and the potential faux pas.
Have you not watched his movie Extreme Jobs? Bro is one of the best comedy actor lol
Iām only just getting to know of his existence and it seems Iāve been missing out. š Moving was the very first time I came across him. I will definitely be taking a look at Extreme Jobs. Thanks.
I think the show is a combination of two things - psychological warfare + systematic oppression like you mentioned.…
Oh for sure. Iām using psychological in more of a supernatural sense. Think Twilight Zone. Think Girl From Nowhere, Step-ford Wives etc. The psychological/ominous vibe I was picking up on in the earlier episodes made me think there was a non-human (supernatural) element to it but Iām starting to realise that as creepy and otherworldly as Ha Rin seems, sheās human. The pyramid scheme is a microcosm of the worst sides of humanity. Itās what people scrambling for power are willing to allow and perpetuate. Itās what the ruling class at the top will do to force people to conform so that they have power and control over the masses.
I found myself thinking about that Charlie Chaplin speech about oppressive regimes. About how the power they took from the people can be returned to the people. Specifically the lines, āDonāt give yourselves to brutes - men who despise you - enslave you - who regiment your livesā¦. Donāt give yourselves to these unnatural men - machine men with machine minds and machine heartsā¦dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the peopleā¦Now let us fightā¦..let us all unite!ā
This is a good analysis Peronally I also leans towards the message of addressing systematic opression but I find…
Thereās definitely a psychological aspect to it. I previously thought it was going to be a psychological horror mindf**k for the FL and that Ha Rin would turn out to be a supernatural being like in The Girl From Nowhere. Thatās what I meant.
Absolutely agree. The aspects of salvation and divinity was also what I liked most about the series too. I think they explored this really well and might have been the only strength of the series (aside from the acting).
Episode 7 and 8 have changed everything I thought about whatās going on.
Previously there was a sort of āominousā tone to a lot of the characters and the school environment that made me second guess everything (like they were putting on a show). Now I think differently.
Itās mostly because of Ja Eunās character. Something felt off about her which made me suspect she wasnāt as innocent as she seemed and may be in cahoots with Ha Rin. I also thought she might have bullied Ha Rin when they were younger and thatās why Ha Rin wants to punish her now.
After watching the last episode and thinking about Ha Rinās motivations for what she does, the penny dropped. Itās far more likely that the opposite is the case. Itās far more likely that Ha Rin despises Ja Eun not because she was a bully to her in childhood but because she was too nice.
I no longer think Ja Eun being āniceā is an act and when I think about it, someone being kind, caring, nice and unyielding to manipulation, unwilling to become cruel, is something that would majorly p*ss off someone like Ha Rin who likes to play people like puppets.
I think I see where this is going. Ja Eun and Soo Ji are very similar in this way. They both will not conform. This is why they are seen as a threat and a source of annoyance to Ha Rin because they will not fall in line.
Once I realised the strong theme of conformity and right vs wrong is whatās at the forefront of this series, I realised the show is leaning towards a more political/ moralistic message, rather than leaning on the psychological thriller aspect of it being a creepy school.
At one point I even thought there might be something supernatural at play (stepford wives vibes) but I no longer think this is the case. My view now is that this show is essentially a chess game about how one can change an oppressive system. How having allies and strong morals and capacity for kindness and forgiveness is what wins the day even against a tyrannical, psychopathic mastermind with unchecked power. Just like how oppressors can manipulate the masses to become the worst versions of themselves; so too can the masses be influenced to become vehicles for change and help to topple an oppressive system.
Iām just stunned that a k-drama kept their plot consistent and followed through with where their clues were leading without making an abrupt U-turn. Credit to the creators. Itās truly rare in Asian dramas.
JW always gave obsessed psycho vibes....Looks like NaEon's boss had something to do with it too maybe she got…
This was what I thought would be the reason if it turned out to be him and it turned out to be him. It looked like he didnāt mean to push her over the edge too. He looked shocked and surprised. I theorised before that he was the attempted killer but that it might have been an accident/unintentional.
ā Na Eon unintentionally did something 5 years ago that set stuff in motion, which lead to the death of temple girl and set Eun Ho on the path of revenge.
ā Jung Woo is the masked rabbit who was possibly sent to scare Na Eon but ended up almost killing her accidentally.
ā The female director is the mastermind/villain (granted, sheās in cahoots with the young CEO but although heās petty and slimy, I still think the female director has bigger plans than him and is the true mastermind). I think sheās cooking up something with Rabbit Guy from the first episode. I think she wants control of both companies herself once they do the merger.
Honestly, I donāt know why k-dramas just donāt stop referencing Arabs. It doesnāt matter if they do so in a good light or bad light, itās just not worth the hassle and the potential faux pas.
I found myself thinking about that Charlie Chaplin speech about oppressive regimes. About how the power they took from the people can be returned to the people. Specifically the lines, āDonāt give yourselves to brutes - men who despise you - enslave you - who regiment your livesā¦. Donāt give yourselves to these unnatural men - machine men with machine minds and machine heartsā¦dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the peopleā¦Now let us fightā¦..let us all unite!ā
Previously there was a sort of āominousā tone to a lot of the characters and the school environment that made me second guess everything (like they were putting on a show). Now I think differently.
Itās mostly because of Ja Eunās character. Something felt off about her which made me suspect she wasnāt as innocent as she seemed and may be in cahoots with Ha Rin. I also thought she might have bullied Ha Rin when they were younger and thatās why Ha Rin wants to punish her now.
After watching the last episode and thinking about Ha Rinās motivations for what she does, the penny dropped. Itās far more likely that the opposite is the case. Itās far more likely that Ha Rin despises Ja Eun not because she was a bully to her in childhood but because she was too nice.
I no longer think Ja Eun being āniceā is an act and when I think about it, someone being kind, caring, nice and unyielding to manipulation, unwilling to become cruel, is something that would majorly p*ss off someone like Ha Rin who likes to play people like puppets.
I think I see where this is going. Ja Eun and Soo Ji are very similar in this way. They both will not conform. This is why they are seen as a threat and a source of annoyance to Ha Rin because they will not fall in line.
Once I realised the strong theme of conformity and right vs wrong is whatās at the forefront of this series, I realised the show is leaning towards a more political/ moralistic message, rather than leaning on the psychological thriller aspect of it being a creepy school.
At one point I even thought there might be something supernatural at play (stepford wives vibes) but I no longer think this is the case. My view now is that this show is essentially a chess game about how one can change an oppressive system. How having allies and strong morals and capacity for kindness and forgiveness is what wins the day even against a tyrannical, psychopathic mastermind with unchecked power. Just like how oppressors can manipulate the masses to become the worst versions of themselves; so too can the masses be influenced to become vehicles for change and help to topple an oppressive system.
ā Na Eon unintentionally did something 5 years ago that set stuff in motion, which lead to the death of temple girl and set Eun Ho on the path of revenge.
ā Jung Woo is the masked rabbit who was possibly sent to scare Na Eon but ended up almost killing her accidentally.
ā The female director is the mastermind/villain (granted, sheās in cahoots with the young CEO but although heās petty and slimy, I still think the female director has bigger plans than him and is the true mastermind). I think sheās cooking up something with Rabbit Guy from the first episode. I think she wants control of both companies herself once they do the merger.