So what, is this another drama which should have an NBA2K rating? Why is there an expectation that every drama deserves a rating around 9.0, and when it doesn't happen, it's always because of the bots and haters?
Why not? I'm trying to decide if i want to keep this on my watch list or not.
Thanks for sharing your opinion. It would bother me as well, so I won't be starting this one; especially after just finishing watching LSS as a super-capable female lead in "Kill My Sins".
I just finished watching "Kill My Sins", and with the LSS here, my expectations went up regarding this drama (especially without Romance tagged at the moment).
But the silence in the comment sections doesn't look good ;(
It was really interesting to watch her as a villainess in "Prisoner of Beauty" and then as a 2nd heroine in "Kill My Sins". Also, if someone told me she is Liu Shi Shi's sister, I would probably believe it :).
It sucks to write a summary 18 months after everyone, but as I finally decided to watch it, it has been a very good drama.
I would rate it at the "Blossom" and "Flourished Peony" levels (maybe slightly better than FP due to higher rewatch value and FL doing more on her own) , and easily higher than most 8.5+ rated dramas, which I won't mention to avoid putting myself in the crossfire. However, I'm a bit disappointed that it rated only at 6.3 on Douban, despite mostly very positive comments visible on the main page.
Couple of notes: - The title should be "Expect unexpected", as some of the twists and turns were really surprising, and yes, a few of them didn't make much sense to my limited brain - It's a rare, female-centric show without any Romance (but a lot of friendship), which already puts it in unique territory. And, fortunately, it was executed really well. - It also has a very dark and heavy tone, lots of death and tragic moments (especially in flashbacks). - It was a rare show where I actually would welcome more episodes. - It was a very rare show where I barely fast-forwarded scenes; instead, I was probably going back more to double-check some things. - I really liked a moment when the 2ML took the female lead to the outside of the city when she was probably at her lowest point, cursed by everybody. What a lovely character. - It's so nice to see, for once, a female-centric show where the FL is actually the most capable person in the drama. She had her share of painful losses too, and in general, she is the most resilient female lead I've seen besides the FL from "Veil of Vengeance". - She also had some irritatingly smart and easy-to-hate antagonists. - I liked it until the end, but overall, the opening arc about the original revenge was the strongest one, and the final rebellion was pretty pathetic. Okay, so maybe this didn't need more episodes after all :). - It's a travesty that the actress playing Wu's wife and mother (宋欣洁/Song Xinjie) isn't listed in the cast. - I also really liked the music; maybe sometimes it was too much of it, but it really fit nicely. - And what can I say at the end? I just really like watching dramas with Liu Shi Shi (and obviously, just staring at her); it was a really nicely written role for her. But there were many other strong performances from various actors and actresses (the old chancellor was my favourite; I recognise his voice from The Story of Minglan as the original Emperor); the lack of beauty contest participants helped a lot :).
She was also playing in "Kill My Sins", the wife of the final villain turned Taoist Master. I couldn't ind nowhere an inwo about the year he was born, but either way she is wery pretty. She had to be a true looker in her career before taking a break in 2010's.
I find it amazing how often the Female lead is rescued by all the princes and in only on episode 14 🤣
Well, the C-drama writers all have a Master's degree in how to make FLs look incompetent (even the ones supposedly smart/badass) by making her be constantly rescued by all her love interests in the name of pushing this way f'n romance down our throats.
Normally I ask myself "how did she stay alive before meeting them?", but at least this one here already died before, so I can skip this question for once.
Nobody asked him to do that.The fact that he had a one-sided obsession with the female lead doesn't make her owe…
She has a group of bodyguards around her, and yet ML still comes unannounced to her bed; kind of like a flying Superman, if quoting you.
As I said, plot armour was strong in this one; especially in presenting ML as a Super Marty Sue on steroids, with his perfect looks, intelligence, strategising, Martial Arts ability, etc... He was so perfect that it persuaded a majority of female viewers that he is a perfect boyfriend despite his behaviour being worthy of a manipulative creep.
There were many ways to make a female lead more equal to him; I'm just watching "Kill My Sins" with a truly smart female lead, who, despite her low status, can go toe-to-toe with the most powerful people in Kingdom. And she doesn't have to sniff things like a dog to achieve it. How did it happen? The writers made her the smartest person in the story; unlike in BoP, where everyone plays 2nd fiddle to the ML. Everything starts and ends with writing.
To be honest, I really don't know what we are discussing here :) Cheers
Nobody asked him to do that.The fact that he had a one-sided obsession with the female lead doesn't make her owe…
You keep mixing obsession with feelings.
And discussing plot armour like "he saved her 10 times" doesn't really make sense; it's the ML being there that makes writers write female leads who need constant saving., If he weren't there, obsessed or not, it would mysteriously give writers the guts to write stronger, more capable FLs who don't need constant saving.
Dropped at ep 26stop writing dramas men go through hell and comes back for the woman he loves, has countless near…
Nobody asked him to do that. The fact that he had a one-sided obsession with the female lead doesn't make her owe him anything. If this were the case, too many women would have to marry a psycho like ML, and he wouldn't be a Crown Prince in their case.
I love them then :)
My very early guess is that it will be below 6.0 on Douban.
Why is there an expectation that every drama deserves a rating around 9.0, and when it doesn't happen, it's always because of the bots and haters?
It would bother me as well, so I won't be starting this one; especially after just finishing watching LSS as a super-capable female lead in "Kill My Sins".
Also, Blossom was superior on almost every level, maybe except the second couple.
But the silence in the comment sections doesn't look good ;(
Also, if someone told me she is Liu Shi Shi's sister, I would probably believe it :).
I would rate it at the "Blossom" and "Flourished Peony" levels (maybe slightly better than FP due to higher rewatch value and FL doing more on her own) , and easily higher than most 8.5+ rated dramas, which I won't mention to avoid putting myself in the crossfire.
However, I'm a bit disappointed that it rated only at 6.3 on Douban, despite mostly very positive comments visible on the main page.
Couple of notes:
- The title should be "Expect unexpected", as some of the twists and turns were really surprising, and yes, a few of them didn't make much sense to my limited brain
- It's a rare, female-centric show without any Romance (but a lot of friendship), which already puts it in unique territory. And, fortunately, it was executed really well.
- It also has a very dark and heavy tone, lots of death and tragic moments (especially in flashbacks).
- It was a rare show where I actually would welcome more episodes.
- It was a very rare show where I barely fast-forwarded scenes; instead, I was probably going back more to double-check some things.
- I really liked a moment when the 2ML took the female lead to the outside of the city when she was probably at her lowest point, cursed by everybody. What a lovely character.
- It's so nice to see, for once, a female-centric show where the FL is actually the most capable person in the drama. She had her share of painful losses too, and in general, she is the most resilient female lead I've seen besides the FL from "Veil of Vengeance".
- She also had some irritatingly smart and easy-to-hate antagonists.
- I liked it until the end, but overall, the opening arc about the original revenge was the strongest one, and the final rebellion was pretty pathetic.
Okay, so maybe this didn't need more episodes after all :).
- It's a travesty that the actress playing Wu's wife and mother (宋欣洁/Song Xinjie) isn't listed in the cast.
- I also really liked the music; maybe sometimes it was too much of it, but it really fit nicely.
- And what can I say at the end? I just really like watching dramas with Liu Shi Shi (and obviously, just staring at her); it was a really nicely written role for her.
But there were many other strong performances from various actors and actresses (the old chancellor was my favourite; I recognise his voice from The Story of Minglan as the original Emperor); the lack of beauty contest participants helped a lot :).
I couldn't ind nowhere an inwo about the year he was born, but either way she is wery pretty.
She had to be a true looker in her career before taking a break in 2010's.
Normally I ask myself "how did she stay alive before meeting them?", but at least this one here already died before, so I can skip this question for once.
As I said, plot armour was strong in this one; especially in presenting ML as a Super Marty Sue on steroids, with his perfect looks, intelligence, strategising, Martial Arts ability, etc...
He was so perfect that it persuaded a majority of female viewers that he is a perfect boyfriend despite his behaviour being worthy of a manipulative creep.
There were many ways to make a female lead more equal to him; I'm just watching "Kill My Sins" with a truly smart female lead, who, despite her low status, can go toe-to-toe with the most powerful people in Kingdom.
And she doesn't have to sniff things like a dog to achieve it.
How did it happen? The writers made her the smartest person in the story; unlike in BoP, where everyone plays 2nd fiddle to the ML.
Everything starts and ends with writing.
To be honest, I really don't know what we are discussing here :)
Cheers
And discussing plot armour like "he saved her 10 times" doesn't really make sense; it's the ML being there that makes writers write female leads who need constant saving.,
If he weren't there, obsessed or not, it would mysteriously give writers the guts to write stronger, more capable FLs who don't need constant saving.
The fact that he had a one-sided obsession with the female lead doesn't make her owe him anything.
If this were the case, too many women would have to marry a psycho like ML, and he wouldn't be a Crown Prince in their case.