Renata MJ

But it's the industry's fault because of their contracts and the way they promote the celebrities (dehumanizing them), which gives the fans power.
It was similar in the '90s in the West when the industry made it look taboo to date and fans were more positive.
The companies should, from the start, promote the idea that celebrities are allowed to date, go to clubs, have free time and relax, and make mistakes (not crimes but mistakes). They should stop sending apology letters and give fans the power to mob and conduct witch hunts.
The companies should bring in therapists or psychologists to talk to trainees (give them advice and tools to fight the "fans") and have them stay in the company for counseling.
Maybe they should organize activities privately for people to make sure they develop friendships and the celebrities don't feel lonely, they should let them spend more time with their family.
The company should create a system of promotion in which normal interactions are accepted, they should cut the idea that fans can be possessive of the celebrity.

Even Nam Yoon Su for Love in the Big City, should not have to go through anything bad for doing a role!! The company should be strong and promote and take legal action against the fans!

I have to say that the Korean entertainment industry traumatized me. Bad things happen, yes, but I always feel like I am shaken and yanked around. One second, everything is alright, and the other, it's bad news. They are always young, talented people, the ones who never do bad things and work hard. I wish the Korean entertainment industry would revolt against overworking, the suffocating "fans", the pressure, and the bullying culture that Korea has. The Parasite director brought more attention to the issue, I wish people and companies would do that every time something like this happens. :(( because these people deserve more!!! They should have the opportunity to get help before things get so bad!!!!

Senseihukoku / 音羽-otoha- they have it onyotube with the music video but I don't know if they have it in some music app

I felt like this show was meant to showcase "incomplete people", all the characters were focusing on finding that 1% of what they were missing or yearning for but did not pay attention to the 99% of what they got... and they exchanged them only to wake up to reality after.
I felt like emotional intelligence was missing, but after all the events the characters somehow learned what they wanted and how to communicate.
But that is just my opinion. I don't see it as a failure because I feel like it made me think :) so I guess it managed to move me in a way.
But I did feel strange and frustrated while watching, I wanted to understand the characters but I felt like I wanted to scold them...
I loved hearing your opinion, it's interesting how many people watch the same movies but arrive at different conclusions. :) In art there is not just one way.

It does not matter if they are fan girls or not, in this case because the script was bad... The worst thing that can happen to a show is have bad writing, no oscar winning actor could ever save shows like that.
That was my main point.

What do you mean? lol She entertained everything then randomly cut off... She literally ghosted, she is the character with worst communication in film history.

I know I am one of them.
First instinct is to put space because I get scared of getting hurt, because the majority of people are not experts at reading others or recognize someone that has anxiety/depression/social-phobia... they aren't patient and they can read things wrongly and say the wrong things.
But even if it's in that situation I feel that the majority would recognize the effort. Yes, they have a trauma, they were hurt, they have the tendency to over analyze, and they are hard on themself, but they don't want to hurt others, shunting down randomly is a sign of something very serious,and her way of portraying the character... did not show the viewer she was in a "black-hole".

The girl is new, people did complain about her acting. Generally no one wanted a love triangle, and it was unnecessary. The writing can bring down even the best shows, no matter how good the actors are, they can't save a bad script.
I am not a fan girl of any actor, I don't subscribe to the culture, but the guys are not bad actors.

Thank you very much!

He is quite active on his youtube but I feel like there should be more subscribers, I think not everyone knows about his youtube. He is working on music and has success internationally had fan meetings. I hope people will subscribe.

In my country in the 90s and early 2000s there was an "invasion" of rom-coms, those were super idealized and people knew they did not reflect reality but everything was romanticized and there was a culture of shipping even in the west (even if they were not overly agresive). I thought it was strange, so when I saw a similar type of culture in the BL industry I stayed away.
I saw one omega verse it was the Thai one, this one on this page I did not see. And I think you are right this genre is made kind of like an ultimate BL univese, and it does seem to go hand in heand with an erotic fantasy/genre at its roots. But I also did not consume other media of this genre, so UI don't actually know actual stories or variations. I just looked up the "rules of the universe"/ characteristics.

Don't worry I never thought you wrote anything rude or unreasonable!!! I understand what you meant and I did enjoy reading your comments and experience. :) Communicating like this is nice to learn about people's experiences.
I know the content can be diverse, but it's idealized most of the time (that is what I was referring to). Also, I can imagine long comments can get overwhelming, it's a "me thing", because I am very particular about this (I studied script writing, character design and development, animation, storyboards, and so on, so I like to research info about production, postproduction, genres, and camera work, so I tend to be exact).
It was good hearing from you, hope you will have a good time enjoying the series!!

I am not sure you understood. The origins are from the countries that make BL, so the way they are made is still the same, and as you mentioned about "facts" you can't change them.
The people that make it and the reason they make it is not what you mentioned, that is the fact.
Since you mentioned your story, I can only conclude that you are from a country that is not open to the LGBTQA+ community and it helped you, I did not say that is excluded or impossible. I as you mentioned was talking objectively about the purpose of the genre in its creation, and it's not to promote or make the content realistic.
If you had your personal experience and it opened your mind, that is very good but your experience may not be the norm, as research and the percentages show the main audience is teen girls and women around 30 years old give or take (main consumer) the rest of the percentage is diverse, but not a majority (your experience is not invalidated, I am not trying to do that). But the BL genre has certain characteristics, and it's important to be separated from the LGBTQIAA+ because a lot of times it does not reflect reality, it does not talk about their experience and there are a lot of projects even here in the West and Asia as well that are doing exactly what you said, they promote diversity, bring awareness, presents facts and stories mainly to support the community. The projects are serious and masterpieces (they are some of my favorite movies).
As for the last part you mentioned, the tags are important for people to know what to expect, and how to approach the projects.
Anyway, the idea is that the BL projects are generally idealized and constructed in ways that don't speak up on the real issues because their purpose is different, while the LGBT+ projects are made mainly for the purpose you mentioned.
I don't know if I managed to express accurately what I wanted... I hope I did.

Also it can't show how it's normal, because the target audience is different. The people that should learn to tolarate (in our days) are not the young girls but the older generation, and they don't consume the media, the biggest procentage are women starting from teen to around 30 years old, and the rest is a smaller procentage.
Korea came in the game later with BL's and they do slice of life but the projects are not mainstream or Televised. As for China... we all know how that went.

No true, the purpose of Western LGBTQA+ is what you said. But BL is a genre that came from Japan and it started as erotica made by women in the 70s (it was a self-published work - Doujinshi) and it was a subgenre of
shōnen-ai ). Later it became varied and the word had certain traits and names such as Tanbi, June, Yaoi, and so on. There is a genre created by gay men dedicated more to gay men called Bara.
"Yaoi also known as boys' love with the abbreviation BL, is a genre of fictional media originating in Japan that features homoerotic relationships between male characters.
It is typically created by women for women and is thus distinct from bara (gay manga), a genre of homoerotic media marketed to gay men, though Yaoi does also attract a male audience and can be produced by male creators.
Yaoi spans a wide range of media, including manga, anime, drama CDs, novels, video games, television series, films, and fan works. While "yaoi" is commonly used in the West as an umbrella term for Japanese-influenced media with male-male relationships, "boys' love" and "BL" are the generic terms for this kind of media in Japan and much of Asia."
This BL genre and subgenres all came up at first from erotica, then years later when people noticed the genre was marketable original works started to be made and the target audience became varied in age (15+ and 18+), creating shonen-ai (a genre of shōjo manga -girls' manga- featuring romance between bishōnen (lit. "beautiful boys"), a term for androgynous or effeminate male characters. Early shōnen-ai works were inspired by European literature, the writings of Taruho Inagaki, and the Bildungsroman genre. Shōnen-ai often features references to literature, history, science, and philosophy). The work is meant to be like a fantasy and does not focus on sexual orientation which is why a lot of time they say "I love you, I don't love other boys, just you" or there are some themed manga that the woman species does not even exist.
I even remember reading they said that in some BL worlds, there is no such thing as "gay" because liking someone is such a normal thing that they don't use real-world concepts that separate orientations (there is no such thing as straight or gay as a separation/distinction).

A fact can't cange, one can not erase the past, you should not ask people to lie about their thought. Also BL has nothing to do with LGBTQ+, it's a fantasy genre created by women for wemen, and in the majority of the stories orientation is not a center theme, or even mentioned. That is why they use the phrase "I love you specifically, I don't love guys , I love you" in some works, and they don't focus on specific terms. The genre event started from erotica.
Puting the genre in the LGBTQ would be like people saying AV with only girls are connected with the LGBTQ when they are not it's just an erotic genre that boys watch, and they don't think of Lesbians in real life decently.
It's only a fantasy genre that caters to them without having real connection with reality.
Same with BL, it's ment to be romantic, a fantasy, sometimes erotica and it tuggs at girl's hearts. It does not represent the realities of the LGBTQA+ comunity ( the west misunderstands the genre).
Also having a diffrent oppinion does not make a person a hater (homophobic) or does not make them someone that does not support the comunity. When there are complicated subjects things are never simple.

Well you just said she is a woman that wants to be a man, her "wants" does not change the fact that she was born a woman. So yes, only woman can get pregnant and women that pretent to be men but were born as a woma.
The statement is logical.

There is no purpose for BL, BL is like the name that incapsulates so many diffrent types of BL's, in Japan there are categories that describe certain genres like shōnen-ai (which has bishōnen characetrs, a term for androgynous or effeminate male characters). So there are specific types of BL that focuse on that type of people.
Early shōnen-ai works were inspired by European literature, the writings of Taruho Inagaki and the Bildungsroman genre. Shōnen-ai often features references to literature, history, science, and philosophy.
Suzuki describes the genre as being "pedantic" and "difficult to understand", with "philosophical and abstract musings" that challenged young readers who were often only able to understand the references and deeper themes as they grew older.
There is "Tanbi" wich is more like an aesthetic fiction.

"June" that is a bL genre that describes bL's with a certain art style. The term is not used anymore.

"Yaoi" which describes a thing in the west and another in Japan, they way the term is used is a bit diffrent.
There are a few others as well.

OK that person and you are angels!! TY!!! <3

What do you think BL is? It has many themes, if you don't like the universe you can just not go for it, let others that like it read it :))