Renata MJ

Do you know "Better days" the movie? I want to watch it but I am afraid... I don't want to cry...

The ending is not the same

In the movie she dies, the last part was a dream that is why they are shown young... In the book she gets to be old... but they changed the ending in the movie and that is why the Tragedy tag is on it

This is made after a book and there is also a movie adaptation, she was the target but the guys confused her with her sister... if I remember well...

True but I heard they changed the ending compared to the book, and that in the movie she died and the ending was a dream.

I was disappointed a bit by the show, even though I know they were on a lower budget and only had 12 episodes... The passing of time is badly depicted as well (the viewer does not get the sense of how much time passed and how much time they actually spent together, how they got close so fast...) and also the time when Type throws the pillow at Tharm and then wants it back in the series just looks like it's a bit random (when in the book he is angry at himself for thinking he wants to top Tharn and then gets all red and has a lot of thought about the situation) in the show nothing is shown... he just throws the pillow and we don't get see his why, we don't have the time to see the development and how they feel. But for the people like me that read the book, we fill in the blanks :)) That is why when the series came out people were angry and talked about the abuse :)) I was like... well it looks like it :)) but it shouldn't... :((

Yes, that is why I mentioned that in the series they did not transfer the action from the book accurately, I read the book first and I am telling you how it happened in the book :) I am not trying to change it because I like the characters I am telling you how it happened in the book :) also in the book Tharn is traumatized by his first experience as well that is why he is an exclusive top.

Actually you are wrong :)) The first time it happened was the only time Tharn did not think of Type, it happened because of a fight and Tharn did not want anything sexual first, in that situation he wanted to hurt Thype like literally hit him, but when Type said that" it's hurting him" Tharn immediately stepped back and stooped, then it proceeded into something sexual in which Type was already too turned on (by the porn) to say no (he came and was shocked that he was not disgusted by Tharn's touch) and then he remembered his past and had the panic attack.
After that in the book, Tharn already knows that Type is different towards him because Type keeps getting red and watching him in a certain way.
The second time they get together was in the shower part and Tharn tells him he thinks Type invited him there (by this point Type already can't control his desire and can't stop thinking of Tharn). In the book, the punch and the kick happened before any type of fiscal contact, and after the first time, Type is not aggressive at all towards Tharn (he uses nasty words but he is not aggressive, and when Tharn looks sad Type immediately changes and calms down).
Even more, Type even said that he is embarrassed by his attitude because he kept saying that " Tharn would want to get him because he is a predator" but in reality, he is the one that wants to push Tharn down and keeps saying Tharn is the only one that made him enjoy the "act".
When Tharn finds out about Type's past and he never gets close to him again, which is why Type initiates the idea of sex... because Type can't hold back, and in all this time we also have Tharn mentioned that he realized that Type watched him, and has cute reactions to him, for which he felt encouraged to try and get closer.
The only time he did wrong was the first when he was angry and for that Tharn even said he regrets and asks for forgiveness from Type. In the book, things don't go down without explications and without us knowing all the time what both of them are thinking and what drives their decisions, so it's easier to see that it's no abuse.

yes, but he did not do it only to get him that way, No was older and has known him for 3 years, he said he saw Kla as a brother. Basically, if Kla would have confessed normally he would have been rejected because No has this idea that Kla is a kid and he is innocent so Kla did something crazy to change the dynamic between them. Kla was worst than friend-zoned in No's mind, so Kla was desperate, plus No was a virgin way harder to tempt him in a more subtle way, Kla went for the crazy extreme approach. No was not interested in anyone before (he hid not have a type), so Kla would not know how to approach or flirt with him...
I think they did this to show how crazy young people can get, I mean I can not count how many times I saw my friend get drunk then make out with people... it's realistic...
I always judge the situation on how they mark the characters if the characters are not traumatized which means they were not that against it, in this situation specifically, they asked for more (Kla even said he will not do a thing and will let No do what he wants).
I saw " Effect" the series and that was horrible because even if the guys first had a crush on each other, the development was real and horrible and the outcome was obviously so scary and sad.
Basically I let the characters "decide" how affected they are (if they consider it bad or not, it depends from person to person)... in order for me to decide how much of a forced thing it is. If the relationship does not turn toxic and if the characters that made mistakes learn and change, then I am not against the story.

Kla did not get him drunk, No was drunk on his own, also in the book, it is shown that he was aware who Kla is (recognizing him as his younger brother's best friend, knowing that Kla spent a long time at their house), he responded to the kiss knowing what was going on but referring to himself as a virgin (as in inexperienced and embarrassed) later on asking him not to stop. In the book, he was not as drunk as in the series, in the book he was walking alone from room to room and he even knew where he was. In the series, since they were not the main couple they did not get enough time on the screen to portray their relationship and the development. Also if I remember correctly Type gets involved... and settles the score for No.

Thaen and Type are a bit messy in the series... because 12 episodes don't portray the development good enough... and there is a misunderstanding that it was abuse... but in the book is different because we can hear Type's thoughts, Type in the begging wants to be close to Type and considers him attractive, even hot, he becomes hostile only because of his sexual orientation (all because of what happened to him in the past). And even when Tharn first touches him in the book Type thinks that he is not disgusted by Tharn's touch but he gets a panic attack because he remembers the past (it was not Tharn scaring him, but the images from the past). After that Type wanted to be with Tharn but did not say it out loud he was fighting his desire (because he could not accept he has feelings for a guy), and after he told Tharn about his past, he mentioned that Tharn did not make a move to get close to him at all, that is why Type made the first move to get close to him after that :)) (But all this happened in a longer period of time). Tharn was also traumatized by his first experience, even if in the series this is not that evident, in the book is more serious because he got hurt badly and he is scared to be a bottom (that is why he is exclusively top, it's a trauma for him). And in the book they got that close because basically they understood each-other more than the rest.

In the book is not like that, and he did not get him drunk, No got drunk on his own. Also, he did not push him away when he was sober the morning after :)) Kengkla is also younger and more immature and selfish :)
All I am curious about that is the filming schedule changed... could be that Saint has time to make a short comeback at least :)

I think because he graduated :) and Star had a real connection with him.

I just wanted to ask if you remember the language... I also am curious to know if you remember how old the character seamed, were they very young like high-school characters or university characters? Something seams familiar to me. I would like to search fort this :)

Ha Ha, I guess everyone has an idea :) I was thinking about the as well first but then I saw on YouTube a realistic fan art of Mew and was shocked he was portrayed as a detective or mafia... he had a long coat on and a hoster with a gun he looked so good.

People can like what they want :) It's just that I was the same at first before reading the book, I am waiting to buy it now.
I saw tons of situations where people did not have all the information on projects and they did not like them but they also in a way did not have the entire experience :))
I wrote it to you in a private message. :) <3

At the end of 2019, they announced that they are working on the official ENG translation of the book and that in a short time it should be available for purchase (it was already translated in Eng by a fan, but he took it off because he was employed officially to work on the original book with their team). If you want to read some other fan translations (unfinished) they are available on Wattpad. I can give you 2 links is you want from 2 different versions (if they allow link sharing on this site for other sites).

At the end of 2019 they announced that they are working on the official ENG translation of the book, and that in short time it should be available for purchase (it was already translate in Eng by a fan, but he took it off because he was employed officially to work on the original book with their team). If you want to read some other fan translations (unfinished) they are available on wattpad. I can give you 2 links is you want from 2 different versions (if they allow link sharing on this site for other sites)

I get that you see it like that because it was controversial when it aired. But the story is not like that in the book and this series was made especially for the fans of the book, the main story is "Love by chance" and because of the crazy success people asked for the book TharnType to be made. There you get into the head of the characters and you understand "the why" better, also the series does not show the passing of the time well as this happens in a long period of time, but in the series, it's just not shown.
The bad guys are punished in the book in certain ways even if in the series they did not focus on showing that.
In the series, Tharn does not explain enough, but in the book, you find out he is an exclusive top because of his first time as a bottom he was hurt and traumatized (bleeding and rushed to the hospital), so he does not accept to be bottom no matter what, this is prooven in the series episode 13 (the special episode) when Type tries to be top and asks Tharn if he wants to try where Tharn refuses.
And Type was in the book only 6 or 7 when he was abused so after the trauma he has a horrible impression of the LGBTQ + community, so he is homophobic and scared. This is realistic, even if people know it's not good to generalize and lump people in together this happens a lot in today's society, even more if they are children that had a horrible experience and they got stuck mentally in that place. This is shown in the book (very well as we can hear his thoughts ) when Type's privates get touched by Tharn the first time and he realizes that he is not disgusted by his touch but he immediately goes back to the place and in that time and remembers the perv and then he gets a panic attack. From the beginning, he does not associate Tharn with something disgusting but instead, he assumes that Tharn equals with the perv from the past... his journey shows that he learns to separate and distinguish the situations. We also are told that Type already thought Type is good looking and after Tharn touches him, Type even feels attracted to him.
Basically this story is about 2 guys that each had their trauma and helped each other, people with super problems don't react normally, so obviously they can seam toxic, even more at the beginning but at the end of the book and even series, they are actually shown to change, become more mature and lean-to heal and grow. As you can see in episode 13 Type is already so different, and his father is hot-headed and defensive like he was :))
I know that this information is not shown clearly in the show but after the backlash, the production team explained that this is based on the book but 12 episodes were too short to convey very well all the details... and as for season 2 they mentioned they will make it more detailed.

Close :))