Kim Yoonmi 김윤미 金潤美

6 episodes left... so they might still return to being overlords.

I made a comment on Youtube later about it... and all the unjustified hate. If you're going to hate her, I think you shouldn't hate her for the wrong reasons, like "she didn't quit her job once she got married" and she should "just understand men are more jealous than women." Or "her and her stupid dream" or she's just hysterical. And OMG, she in a room with 2 other people let a man touch her hair while acting out a scene when she thought he had a girl he liked. *cry* while watching a drama where 2 actors kiss over and over for their entertainment.

*eyeroll*

As I said, hate her for the right reasons, like not sitting down with Boyan and trying to discuss in a pointed way what they should do next. Itemize that list because she's a writer, write it down. Open the communication more. And it's not like some of the people who said it's not a Chinese thing, since Perfect and Casual showed that it is a Chinese thing. It could have been done...

If you want to argue just to argue and fail to realize it's also the same IP author and failed to actually watch Love by Hypnotic and failed to realize the wide references to it, I'm not here for that. But it's to let you know this is true. Both are set in a fantasy world, and the same one.

It's set in the same world... Love by Hypnotic. There are references to Dongyue in Love by Hypnotic because it's written by the same screenwriter. Because they are connected, that's why Li Qian and Pugu Yunsi will show up in this one, connecting the two stories together.

It's the one where the woman is chronically sick and needs blood transfusions but one of the bags of blood was contaminated... thus leading to the ending.

I thought the beginning was fine, but the ending was questionable because nothing resolved and they'd been arguing the same thing for months. I mean I've seen where arguments are productive and get things in to evolve moving forward (Love is All, for example, has a few examples of shouting arguments that move things along), but they kept grinding on the same points. I suppose, since I understand somewhat... that maybe the writer didn't understand their characters fast enough? Because I thought the underlying trauma of Boyan feeling like everyone would leave him didn't really get cured at all and he needed therapy on trust issues. If he was able to expand his friend base, also expand his trust, then the conflict dissolves.

And for Jianan, I don't think I quite believed that she suddenly trusted in her talents because the conversation between her and her father was mostly about how Boyan was absent, but I would have liked a sweet talk between them about how he recognizes her as a writer and says she's truly talented and he's glad to have her as a daughter. (He'll give the company to her sister if she wants it or find a better successor).

A little more punch on the ending would have worked, but I recognize some writers are terrible at it and have trouble getting past the premise.

I think a bit of the hatred was justified, but the reasoning behind it was terrible. (Mostly from Youtube channel)

Someone actually said she should have quit her job after marrying Boyan and should have sacrificed for him. And I was like... that's not how marriage works.

They were definitely both at fault for the way things escalated, no doubt, but hating on her for having a dream (Someone said "Stupid dream" while actually watching a drama by a writer and a scriptwriter and also hating on her for acting out a scene where the producer touched her hair... I just couldn't get it, so they're fine with watching a drama which has people who do those things, but not fine with the characters in the drama? The amount of cognitive dissonance is really big on that. So hate on script writers who have dreams... and hate on people who, for work have to act out scenes with the opposite sex... but watch a drama that has kissing in it.

Real life actors negotiate those things with their partners/spouses...

I think if you're going to hate on Jianan, you should hate her for not trying to clarify their relationship earlier around the time she got the diamond ring and asking where are we in this relationship, and what is it that you want out of it? Which is the exact same fault Boyan had... (Though him being controlling on and off would have also been solved through this kind of communication.)

Boyan probably would have said, "I view this relationship as we're married and committed."

And Jianan would have said, "We haven't gone on that many dates together--this feels a bit fast for me and we're going to break up when the contract is over. And I have a career that I have not achieved. I feel like you achieved your career, so I need you to trust me."

This leaves Boyan to come up with dates and ways to draw boundaries that are healthy, and then Jianan could say what she wants out of her career, why, and how she wants him to participate or not participate. Then push him towards having friends. Like severely push him towards having friends outside of the relationship and work. They talk over the contract, what they want and think over it again. And Boyan could confess he's been supporting her from the beginning and that's why he chose his career, and then she could said, "But still... I will adhere to reasonable boundaries like checking in with you past X time when I'm out... but I would like some space to feel like I've become acknowledged for my talents, and I feel like your success hinders that."

So then they discuss and bicker through the way to work through the boundaries of that, and renegotiate if something new comes up.

If those things would have happened, I'd have believed the ending more. This discussion should have happened around episode 16, if my memory serves right, and then throw events to shake up Boyan's career and make Jianan realize how precious Boyan actually is, then steady Jianan for the finale, make them come back together after a separation due to work and done.

Remember what the set up was? For HER the marriage was 100% about *her* getting to have the dream she wanted. For *him* it was a romantic set up, but he needs a life outside of her. If he was honest with her up front, then the expectations change, the relationship changes with it.

For her, she hated him, down to the core. She had no attraction to him. She only agreed because she was desperate. She had no romance, so for her, the speed of the relationship was always off. What she needed was clarity on where they were in the relationship, which something like Perfect and Casual addressed in the later episodes, which this drama lacked.

Telling people that they should magically come together and it should solve everything is wrong. This is a terrible way to conduct any kind of relationship. You need clear set boundaries on both sides.

Telling me, that a woman who was teased and ostracized, in her PoV should 100% automatically fall for the man and then know automatically how he feels and then be comfortable 100% with the relationship when in her mind he has a woman before and he's played her before... that makes no sense whatsoever. Where in her original set up was she head over heels for Boyan? She wasn't. You forgot.

This also makes no excuse for Boyan not being mature enough to sit her down and say, "Hey, let's talk this relationship over and talk about where we think we are in the relationship because I realize everything was out of order and my feelings and trust for you are higher than yours in these areas, but your trust for me is much lower in these areas". You need status updates in mature romantic relationships. It's not magic. It's clear set boundaries and expectations you both work on.

They are both at fault for overreacting to every argument they had and neither tried to play peacemaker, which is why they are going to divorce in five years.

The contract was set up on the condition that she get the career she wanted. If he wanted to renegotiate that, then he should have been like, we need to talk about our relationship, where we think we are and renegotiate the contract. The contract can be redone with a new one. He doesn't have to wait for the year to come up.

This happened in Nige Haji, which shows a far, far more mature look at how marriages actually work. There were upsets. So they sat down and talked about it. There were more upsets, so they talked about it. She decided because of his loss of job, that she wanted a career helping others, so they had to rework the contract again. This is also true of "Because this is my First Life". They renegotiated the contract a few times. This is also what relationship experts say must happen in long-lived romantic relationships, and that every 3-5 years, you have to renegotiate the contract. If there are upsets, you need to renegotiate the contract.

So, I think your idea of romance is immature. it's not living 24-7 for the other person when you have no idea what their intentions are. It's being clear on your boundaries and what you want out of the relationship and be willing to receive what they give you.

Jianan was never about the romance. Why are you expecting her to be suddenly because she got married in order to fulfill her career ambitions? Someone needed to play peacemaker, but as neither could during the drama, they are going to divorce. No sit down and chat... no longevity.

If you're going to hate on her, hate on her for at least some solid reasons and not unfeminist ones.

I noticed a lot of the reviews hate the female lead for all the wrong reasons. OMG, how dare she care about her dreams and her own merit and talents. (This was her whole character set up from episode 1, but nooo... let's make sure she's abused and then say that's the right way....)

Also things like, how dare she care about her friends and not care primarily and only about the effing male lead.

I think this is a total failure of feminism. How dare she not be absorbed into an abusive relationship with the male lead? You realize that a woman that has to care about the male lead 24-7, who has no friends, who is not allowed her own dreams and aspirations is in an abusive relationship. And excusing male behavior like, saying being irrationally jealous because he's "the man" is totally inexcusable.

Also, the headspace in which people say it's evil that a woman on a production would act out a scene and let a man touch her hair... yet they are watching a drama where two actors are kissing, and they are likely to have significant others breaks my brain. Like seriously, you're vilifying the female lead for that, but don't hate on married women for acting in dramas? Double standard there.

If anything, the weakness of this drama is the inability to find way to evolve the conflict between Jianan and Boyan. The character set up from episode 1 is that he *fell* for her *because* she had this impressive, yet looked like impossible dream he'd been trying to support for years on end by choosing his job because of her. But then he got irrationally jealous and tried to control her actions, which contradicted his character set up quite a bit, and put him into the abusive category. But somehow that's forgivable and Jianan is 100% at fault for having dreams and not being about her man, all the time, not Boyan who betrayed his fundamental principles in order to control her....

What this drama really needed was for the characters to grow beyond their initial write ups and then also evolve the conflict a bit more. Boyan also needed a life outside of his workplace so he wasn't so dependent on Jianan. This is kind of why the ending falls apart. There is no long chat on what they should do to resolve conflicts between them. (Which is not a spoiler, BTW, but I said what didn't happen, not what did.)

The fault is with both of them for different reasons... but a nice long chat and some agreed upon boundaries would have solved it. But the characters never really grew. Jianan never really came to trust her own talents. And Boyan is still insecure at the core because he's trying to make Jianan his everything, which isn't healthy at all.

So, acting, no, characterizations, no, the problems are solely on the event structure, which should have challenged the characters to change more, especially the second half.

She got added after I mentioned it. Thanks for the confirmation, though. She must be a reincarnation of Qian Yu... ;)

Watched every single last drama from the beginning and when they were airing. *hides fandom again*

You should complete them all.

Yep, that one. Pretty terrible. Also had YM in it. I tried my best to forget that drama. I wish I could give it a negative rating. Why do cis het men find sexual assault sexy?

https://mydramalist.com/30535-the-wrong-royal-bride

No, it came out this year, I think, so it wasn't Yunxi--also web drama IIRC. Much shorter. Clocking something like 24-36 episodes. Plotline was girl has Instant! marriage with king in arranged marriage (across borders, IIRC), he tries to sexually assault her the first night, her maid lectures her about how if she didn't fight back and he's her husband anyway, so she must be in love (I choked on my vomit around then) and then declares she wants to be the best at medicine. He's already poisoned when she meets him. She's from that era, unlike Yunxi. She rolls over instantly. He tries to sexually assault her two more times in the span of 6 episodes (elew) and the female lead's maid lectures about how because she couldn't resist she must be in *cough* love. *shivers*. The story ends with her finally curing the poison which has somehow lasted for the entire season by using "blood" medicine where she takes on the poison and not telling him that she is doing so in an epic noble idiocy. It also failed all the feminism tests and was written unsurprisingly by a man. I thoroughly hated the entire storyline since the other characters were 100% unlikable, except for the female lead who got killed. This was unlike Yunxi, which actually did pass the feminism tests.

The reason I hated it so much was how much it failed every marker of something decent. It was horrible from episode 1 to the series end. I don't abide by women falling in love with donkeys who assault them and because they can't sufficiently resist, they somehow are in love with them and somehow this story is supposed to be marketed for women. Got so little notice for obvious reasons. Absolutely terrible.

Different days, not same day.

I'm just hoping it doesn't end like with the other drama (forgot the name of it because it was that horrid) that came out with the male character poisoned and she sacrifices herself for him. I would like the female lead to gain more agency, though, considering her tragedies.

She actually is, but she doesn't put the ML first. She thinks about everyone, which is refreshing to have a FL that's not failing the Mako Mori test out of the gate. Like, him, she's balancing different interests instead of melting into a puddle of nothing just because OMG ML is here and I have no motivations outside of him because women should ONLY live for and about men.

She, like him, thinks about his family, her family, her friends, and how to save her own neck. She puts EQ above everything. But because they are both trying to find a way to balance those things, like in a true healthy relationship, sometimes the way they balance those things clash. This is a sign of relationship maturity and is actually how marriage work (though not with the collective lying).

If you are in a marriage no matter your orientation or sexuality where you believe your spouse or your spouse should devote all their time and motivation to you--it's abusive. A real relationship should be dynamic and should be negotiated over time. And this is what I appreciate about this drama. Both the ML and FL have motivations that aren't solely about the relationship, which in turn affect the relationship and the relationship also affects their motivations outside of their relationship.

The series is still being subbed on the official channel. This is because subbers are human and not robots, and usually it takes a while for a series to be subbed well. Also, people pushing for subs are making some of the channels use auto-translate apps like Google translate, so I'd encourage less of asking for subs faster, and more episodes, and so on and more of saying THANK YOU for your hard work... so we don't get screwed over with substandard subs, which happened in some of the dramas as of late. Think of the feelings of the subbers when you comment about subs.

Am I wrong in thinking that the Chinese Medicine doctor (The one that said stick out your tongue, and then you, give me your pulse...) is https://mydramalist.com/people/17434-li-nuo?

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