Tia22

Somehow found the entire thing so dull. The visuals and cast are good but the entire thing was just too dull. 1 hour episodes felt like 5 hours each. My gosh. Had to skip like 12 episodes worth of it. Love triangles especially between brothers or friends and such is always such a drag to experience unless expertly done. This one was just miserable the whole way.

oh these are good recommendations. I started 30 but 17 a while back but switched to another show in the middle and forgot to pick it back up. I also watched touch your heart because i just love the FL. I laughed a lot in it lol. I actually really enjoyed the cheesiness. Such great relief from all the super dark stuff i tend to watch. I haven't seen Misaeng. I can't even guess what it is from the name. I should add it to my watch list and try it out. Thanks for the awesome recommendations. So nice that we can share our preferred genres with one another.

About Cdramas, although i understand Mandarin and i love the culture, i somehow do not enjoy their dramas for only one reason. The depth tends to be lacking almost all the time even in sad situations or bubbly situations and story progression. An all round depth in the stories i have come across, and the acting and even the way the episode sounds are recorded i just can't get used to... not sure how to explain it. I tried watching 'well intended love' and some other cdramas for instance because i liked their synopsis and concepts and it just didn't work out. I genuinely tried. I think Chinese anime is still doing better than the dramas are. I could pick up Jdramas faster though jdramas tend to be a tad too raw lol... another funny thing is after watching just anime and kdramas for so long, i can't relate to American shows almost at all anymore lol. Too much nudity and violence and rushing... What do you think of jdramas and western dramas?

let me add you as a friend lol.. our chats are getting super long lol

Reading your response, i realized that you are totally my type of person... well i have watched several really good ones... first recommendation is obviously 'flower of evil', then second is 'the smile has left your eyes'. Also, others like 'come and hug me', and psychopath diary are all really good stuff. These are centered around a character that is a psychopath... Others like 'Memorist' are more fast paced, and another nice one is 'Yong Pal' though it isn't thriller just a fun run action medical. Please recommend me some slice of life dramas too. They make for nice and relaxed watching. You simply aren't scared that anyone will suddenly die lol. I watched 'something in the rain' on netflix sometime back and unfortunately got very bored. It could have worked out well in like 6 episodes not 16...on the other hand i watched 'something about 1%', and 'clean with passion for now' (not sure if they are slice of life) but absolutely loved them!... maybe you get my gage?

i am also glad it was a happy ending and not a depressing one.

you are right. Didn't mean to downplay others opinions. I have adjusted my comment. For me, the strong points of run on is actually the ML's acting. I have seen him in other shows and realized from run on that he must have put in great effort to flawlessly achieve the awkward/aloof aura the ML presents. I loved that. I guess you are a slice of life type? ... i prefer thrillers and psychological types more so that also counts.

I seemed to see it everywhere for some reason and read great reviews about it then kind of got lost while watching it . Kept waiting for less talking and more something but didn't get that...

FoE is a totally different genre for sure. If you are into thrillers, understanding psychopathy and things like this, you will love it.

generally lighthearted but just a little bit directionless lol

I totally get where you are coming from. I won't say i totally dislike it but i also do not think it deserves the rating even as a slice of life. I certainly do not think it deserves a score of 8.6/10... if this is 8.6, then grand shows and production like flower of evil (though different genre) should be 12/10 because of how truly impeccable they are in almost every aspect. So good you get chills from ML/FL and villain alike. But oh well... different preferences. I enjoyed a good portion of it, though i skipped many parts. I liked the ML's acting in this. The aloofness was pulled off perfectly.

I agree with you. I just finished it. I skipped past a good portion of the episodes because nothing was happening. There is only so much mundanity one can manage as far as conversations go. This was also my experience with true beauty. It was good but cliche and nothing special whatsoever. However, the level of hype it received. I gave run on 7.5/10. I have definitely watched more incredible shows who are struggling to even get an 8 score on MDL... oh well... I mean how can this show get an 8.6 while a show like 'Flower of Evil' has a 9.1... if this show is 8.6 value, then flower of evil and other incredible shows should be 12/10 lol... Anyway the one thing i definitely acquiesce to is the incredible acting of the ML... His awkwardness/aloofness is not actually something so easy to act like people may think. I have seen him in other shows and could tell that he put in great effort to fully embody this character.

if animal cruelty is not something you can stomach, then you really shouldn't watch it. It wasn't even in moderation or a one off event. It was in excess. It really turned me off from enjoying the show as well.

when i saw his age my eyes popped!

I have forgotten on my plan to watch list but haven't come around to it. It seems to be a good one but it also seems disturbing in a strange way just from trailers lol. You need to jump on the Flower of evil boat as soon as you can. The fact that it has a 9.1 score on MDL of all places from thousands of viewers does say something. The ML also did an excellent job.

yes. I also didn't enjoy almost any scenes with the creepy pervert, the crazy hostel owner lady, and the crazy twins.. that is already like half the key cast lol. the cannibalism and animal cruelty was really next level for me. Too much in 10 episodes. So you get my gist. I also had a feeling that the ML may already have been some form of repressed crazy and meeting the brain washing dentist and being in that environment just unleashed it.

Hello Monster was interesting however, i prefer 'The smile has left your eyes', and 'flowers of evil'. I recently watched psychopath diary and it was an awesome mixture of humour and horrow.

now i see where you and @RabbitTheFanGirl are coming from. I did find the concept of transforming for the worse quite interesting. Indeed things will have turned out differently if first off his GF believed him, and if all the crazies weren't in one place. Perhaps the focus should have been more on the ML and the dentist more than on the other housemates... It was just too disturbing really. however, i liked the brain washing dynamics. A different show can be made out of that. This concept exists in 'hello monster' too. The main villain sorta brainwashes the ML's little brother as well while ML who has tendencies for psychopathy turned out different based on environment.

i really liked the smile has left your eyes. i also gave it a high rating for execution and Seo in guk did one of his best acting ever in that show. He showcased the complexity of his character well. Haven't seen train yet. will check it out. I dropped vagabond for some unknown reason lol.

for instance, i have watched other shows featuring psychopathic characters such as 'Come and hug me', flowers of evil', and even more unique types like 'the smile has left your eyes'...There is a sophistication to these that strangers from hell completely lacks. If everyone is crazy, there is no margin for the horror. Even psychopath diary i recently watched really held on to its element despite the humor. The psychopath was not cute or redeemable... thus his presence was always jarring in contrast to everything else. The environment didn't need to look like a horror movie, with blood splatted everywhere and dark and tangy before we feel something... anyway just sharing my views... i do get you as well. we all have our own preferences for depth. I recommend the shows i mentioned in case you have't seen them. You may notice a difference in the execution between those and this.

her boyfriends progressively got worse lol

I was also surprised. If 'crazy' had a natural vibe, definition, sample, or explanation, then it will be the ML. His photo will be there lol.

I really didn't like strangers from hell. It was over the top. The 'hostel' was over the top... everything always looked disgusting from the filming environment, to the facial expressions, the outfits, the excessive amounts of animal cruelty, to the concepts, the connotations... everything single thing had nastiness plasted all around it. The characters were excessively depraved. It is interesting to watch a show with one or max two main psychos... but watching one with everyone being psycho and totally depraved is a bit overdone. It was a difficult watch even for a supposed 'horror'...