π I learned my lesson during Cutie Pie era to tune out this type of discussion. People had big melt-down after their car-kiss... This topic is like a boomerang that comes back every time adults act like adult and not some sexless cardboard cutout
All good character writing is about grey characters, because no one is 100% good or bad. What i meant by red flag is his behavior, i saw so many comment here or twits on X about their cute romance i felt the need to re watch episode because i got totally different vibe from their relationship . So i was like Huh? Everyone is totally ignoring it or I am missing smt.
I don't think that anyone says he's a green flag either..π "He is blackmailed by the Police" that line just…
I agree with you that why i don't get why people go gaga over their 'Romance" While Kant might like Bison a bit, he mostly pretend to archive his own goal. How people see their interaction as healthy or green flag relationship is just beyond me
After rewatching ep. 2 and reading opinions I noticed no one seems to mind or notice that Kant bahevior is big bright red flag... He is blackmailed by the Police, so he tries to get close to Bison. I am sure their one-night stand was good, but he clearly wants to get close for another reason. He paid someone to test Bison reaction and is love-bombing him. While Bison himself is ignoring all warming signs because he want to live normal life and get away from his night job.
Edit. I should have written the context better because people seem to misunderstand my comment - I don't have problem with morally grey characters. Characters need to be grey to be human- like, perfection is boring for a reason.
What I meant is a lot of people seem to be concentrated on romance and the cuteness of it and not on both of them being user with alternative motives . Just how far Kant will go? And how Bison ( assassin by night) will react to being used by someone he possibly started caring for?
... I stil have few episodes to go but it's messy. Most of all execution of show plot. there is good idea behind it but storytelling is terrible. Fixing it wouldn't even be that complicated...
You know, I'm not a fan of GMMTV sex scenes. I can't recall a single one I liked. They are not artistic enough,…
I don't think realistic was even a consideration. Jojo storytelling style is very specific while they keep NC scenes as PG friendly as possible. Its Gmmtv after all... Jojo having permission to do them is already leap forward. NC scenes are pretty fresh concept in Gmmtv. BB, Theory of Love, Sotus, 2ogether, Enchante, Star etc.. if you watched you know that s*x was treated almost like not existing concept. As for the scene you liked with Joong, it was Joong's idea to make it much darker, while Jojo himself initially wanted a much lighter tone.
kidnap started well but the new lead with ohm didn't worked well with no chemistry. dragging plot
You're really reaching now, sweetie. It's not about some "delulu" shippers or review bombing; if the show was solid, none of that would have mattered. The truth is the chemistry just wasn't there, no matter how much you want to believe it. Lengso has potential, sure, but pairing him with Ohm was a miss. And no, this isn't about me or anyone else being "bitter" β it's about people expecting more from their screen time. The majority of viewers aren't as invested in "ships" as you are β they just want good, believable performances. Chemistry isn't something you can force, and it didn't happen here. Also if your usual 'fan' behavior usually include delusion about their behavior i recommend therapy because its really unhealthy...
kidnap started well but the new lead with ohm didn't worked well with no chemistry. dragging plot
When I agree ON delulus are with us, opposites are also true. You show symptoms of wanting Ohm so badly in BL you see "amazing chemistry" and "massive comfort and bounce off each other's energy" delusions. You totally lost objectivity, and sounds like one of these crazy shippers that can't differentiate reality from work. The majority of viewers don't care about ships, if something is good they just show up. Because good work speak for itself.
They are already on Q15!!? They literally released the pilot trailer 2 days ago! π
They started filming before lineup. It's nothing unusual. OffGun The Trainee or ForceBook A boss and babe did it too. Sometimes your greatest strength is being available to film.
i just know this is gonna be a tear jerker despite having such a fun premise and lighthearted trailerπ
its pilot, they might wholly overthrow original idea once they start writing script. It will be another one of gmmtv originals, so they might commit more to comedy, tragedy or slice of life deepening how writing go... after rewatching pilot i don't think they even know what direction they want to go story-wise.
drama is step in right direction as china production house try to avoid their own country censorship. but it's clearly low production with newbie acting.
Leng was better in kidnap after ep 5 which was obviously filmed later and he slayed this mock trailer so his acting…
I agree, its not even like his new ship is popular. Ohm is but Leng? He don't even have 400t follower... I don't even think i saw worse BL gmmtv debut. MSP leads and side cast went beyond 1m. when they all were unknown and newbies. While Leng with all Ohm popularity ... I really wonder why gmm even give them more roles together... numbers clearly don't back it.
kidnap started well but the new lead with ohm didn't worked well with no chemistry. dragging plot
They really don't... Kissing and NC scenes don't equal chemistry. SkyNani are great example of it.. their hand holding went more viral than OhmLeng NC scene... Why they even got more series after Kindap flopped is mystery to me.. They probably would be both more marketable with other people.
Leng was better in kidnap after ep 5 which was obviously filmed later and he slayed this mock trailer so his acting…
Ohm was also only 18 when he filmed it, Its clear he is talented. Not sure if you watched this year lineup but just look at the Ohm expression when he thinks he is not visible on camera - he is clearly not too happy... I would not be surprised if he will change agencies when his contract end. Also, I would not count on Ohm helping Leng... if you follow Ohm IG you would see how much he posted when he had Wednesday Club or Double Savage, he is clearly not too excited about his incoming projects or costar
Leng was better in kidnap after ep 5 which was obviously filmed later and he slayed this mock trailer so his acting…
He didn't improve... his acting was just hid better with editing. Rewatch his scenes and how they edit around him.... once you start nothing trick whole magic is gone
This topic is like a boomerang that comes back every time adults act like adult and not some sexless cardboard cutout
What i meant by red flag is his behavior, i saw so many comment here or twits on X about their cute romance i felt the need to re watch episode because i got totally different vibe from their relationship . So i was like Huh? Everyone is totally ignoring it or I am missing smt.
While Kant might like Bison a bit, he mostly pretend to archive his own goal.
How people see their interaction as healthy or green flag relationship is just beyond me
He is blackmailed by the Police, so he tries to get close to Bison. I am sure their one-night stand was good, but he clearly wants to get close for another reason.
He paid someone to test Bison reaction and is love-bombing him.
While Bison himself is ignoring all warming signs because he want to live normal life and get away from his night job.
Edit.
I should have written the context better because people seem to misunderstand my comment - I don't have problem with morally grey characters. Characters need to be grey to be human- like, perfection is boring for a reason.
What I meant is a lot of people seem to be concentrated on romance and the cuteness of it and not on both of them being user with alternative motives . Just how far Kant will go? And how Bison ( assassin by night) will react to being used by someone he possibly started caring for?
Most of all execution of show plot. there is good idea behind it but storytelling is terrible.
Fixing it wouldn't even be that complicated...
NC scenes are pretty fresh concept in Gmmtv. BB, Theory of Love, Sotus, 2ogether, Enchante, Star etc.. if you watched you know that s*x was treated almost like not existing concept.
As for the scene you liked with Joong, it was Joong's idea to make it much darker, while Jojo himself initially wanted a much lighter tone.
Also if your usual 'fan' behavior usually include delusion about their behavior i recommend therapy because its really unhealthy...
You totally lost objectivity, and sounds like one of these crazy shippers that can't differentiate reality from work.
The majority of viewers don't care about ships, if something is good they just show up. Because good work speak for itself.
OffGun The Trainee or ForceBook A boss and babe did it too.
Sometimes your greatest strength is being available to film.
It will be another one of gmmtv originals, so they might commit more to comedy, tragedy or slice of life deepening how writing go... after rewatching pilot i don't think they even know what direction they want to go story-wise.
but it's clearly low production with newbie acting.
I really wonder why gmm even give them more roles together... numbers clearly don't back it.
SkyNani are great example of it.. their hand holding went more viral than OhmLeng NC scene...
Why they even got more series after Kindap flopped is mystery to me..
They probably would be both more marketable with other people.
Not sure if you watched this year lineup but just look at the Ohm expression when he thinks he is not visible on camera - he is clearly not too happy... I would not be surprised if he will change agencies when his contract end.
Also, I would not count on Ohm helping Leng... if you follow Ohm IG you would see how much he posted when he had Wednesday Club or Double Savage, he is clearly not too excited about his incoming projects or costar
It has cute vibe but its definitely wasn't made for me...