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Then it's irrelevant since the series isn't necessarily incorporating everything from the novel.

Not sure that Paytai has feelings, but the cornerstone of BDSM is consent which is lacking here.

I've seen some of it. There are clips all over YouTube. But eventually somebody will put the whole concert on there hopefully with English subtitles.

What we've seen is abuse. There's no indication there is consent from what we've learned in this series. Just a poor kid getting whipped and slipping on a collar while he cried after his master told him he couldn't take a painting class.

I don't need to research BDSM. I already did that long before NuNew was even born. In fact before Zee was even born.

The book is called Different Loving: The World of Sexual Dominance and Submission. He wrote it with Gloria Brame a PhD sexologist and lifestyle dominant.

It's obvious he hasn't had a say in anything. They brought him there as a whipping boy.

You can tell simply by the way Paytai had no choice to even do something simple like take a painting class.

He thought he had the authority to do that but he did not. He has no autonomy and and therefore no ability to consent to anything

No I got that you agreed with me. I just found the original post a little humorous. She seemed to think that she knew a whole lot more about it than everyone else. And my guess is there have to be a few people in this group who are actually engaged in this lifestyle.

I'm just a casual observer but I never write anything unless I've completely researched it first. It's my nature having been a science writer and medical publisher for 20 years and someone who wrote hundreds of pieces of legislation before that.

My point was that this is not BDSM this is just plain outright abuse. That boy might as well have been sold on a slave block.

And FWIW I spent a year exchanging emails with Jon before he died so I got to know a whole hell of a lot more about BDSM than I ever thought I would know.

In my real life I was a researcher and publisher in a number of fields. Medicine, politics mostly. So I have a natural curiosity when I learn about anything new and read everything I can get my hands on.

This was never my lifestyle choice but I found it intriguing and wound up doing a lot of reading.

I wrote something about Master slave relationships elsewhere here. This isn't BDSM of any kind. Not even in lifestyle BDSM where there's an agreement that one will be the master and one will be the slave.

At least there you have an initial agreement and some form of consent, tenuous as it may be.

In this relationship Paytai never had any choice. He might as well have been sold as a slave on the auction block.

As far as Khanin's childhood goes, it's not like he had anything to compare it to. His dad wasn't mean of or abusive but he knew why he was there and what skills he needed to teach Khanin.

Don't forget that love is not something that is important to this royal family. You get your consort, you make some babies but love doesn't have anything to do with it. So I probably never occurred to him to concentrate on that portion of his development. It's unclear whether or not Thatdanai even has a wife himself.

Years ago I was friends with this guy named Jon Jacobs who wrote a book on total power exchange in BDSM relationships (and he lived the lifestyle). Even in those there is a basis of agreement that one will be the Master and one will be the slave. And this is the most extreme form of BDSM.

In this scenario there is no agreement, there is no contract. There is just control and no choice on Paytai's part. So he he has even less control than in a lifestyle Dom/slave relationship.

Anyway I think this is why most people seeing this are horrified and rightfully so.

Unfortunately even in 2025 IRL women are not completely equal, some societies they are still pretty oppressed.

I wasn't expecting anybody in TNP to have a slave. That really surprised me having never read the book. I don't find that relationship sexy or intriguing just abusive. The whipping scene made me cringe.

Khanin is like a teenage boy with hormones out of control. His entire upbringing has been geared towards giving him the skills to help his father compete for the crown of Emmaly when he grew up. He didn't have a normal dating life. He spent all his time on history and fencing and was very protected by his stepfather.

So here he is liking a man for the first time and acting like an idiot because he has no social skills when it comes to dating and he's got raging hormones in conjunction with sudden power. Hopefully he grows up.

If we're talking about Khanin's dad, which dad are we talking about? His stepdad is probably going to make an appearance in the next episode given that they have found him alive and presumably on his way to Emmaly. And his bio dad is pretty much a non-entity right now. We haven't learned much about him but I do believe he's a good guy. Doesn't seem to have the evil of Ramil's dad. Poor guy has gone from being Kon Diao's clueless but crooked father in Naughty Babe to total evil in this series. Maybe someday he'll get to play somebody who's actually a decent human.

There are a lot of genres that I like which are not fluffy at all, but I'm not a fan of violence. I don't expect there to be a ton of violence in TNP. And I wouldn't have watched GOT regardless. I've got a MAX subscription if I wanted to.

Today I've been trying to get snippets of NuNew's concert with P'Amp. There's one today and one tomorrow but I'm nowhere near Thailand so I'm hunting through YouTube videos.

I haven't read the book so I have no more knowledge than what I've seen in the series. As far as what's happened so far there is no more to discuss. The guy is a whipping boy, a slave.

And if you're looking for fluff I think you're going to get an equal measure of GOT and fluff at the very best. Although I have never seen game of thrones.

As long as someone is a slave consent cannot exist.

I didn't look until I saw it being over so fast. Then I looked at the running time.

It was shorter than the other episodes 48 minutes. And some of that was taken up by the very long intro and previous episode highlights. So probably only 42 minutes of new material.

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I think Chakri is the best character in the whole series. If I had a choice he would never leave the scene. In real life a butler doesn't do most of the things that Chakri does.

In a normal world he would have a right to study. In Emmaly he only has the rights that Ramil says he has. He is basically a slave.

Seems like in the next episode Thatdanai is going to show up in Emmaly. We saw pictures of him going through the airport in London at the end of the last episode.

Charan is carrying Khanin off to his bedroom after getting injured fencing, so another opportunity for the two of them to get closer, but not quite yet.

Zee has already said that episode 7 is going to be a pivotal episode and I'm assuming that means it's when they're finally going to consummate their relationship. So the next episode should be a cliffhanger.

I do believe that Ramil has real feelings for Paytai in the really messed up way that he's capable of. On the other hand I think Paytai is just trying to survive. He has no control and therefore no ability to make a decision. And he knows his mere status there depends on Ramil's father. I don't think Paytai actually sees a future in this mess.