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I couldn't even argue, was just sat in front of it like 😧🫣🥺😫

What right thing are they saying he did??!

I'm literally trying to figure out how he'll get a redemption arch by episode 12... or maybe the story won't even try to end that way?
I havent read or watched source material so I'm genuinely struggling to see how they'll wrap this thing up and still consider it "BL"

Most definitely madness.
It's between Lu Feng and Fan Xiao for me - truly villainous stuff from them.

I literally had to detach from BL expectations because the love has progressed to a story of seriously psychotic obsession.

And I'm still here reeling about it all in the comment section because I'm struggling to move on. They started so cute 😫😫😫

Thanks, you too!
I see you edited your post and added the "if you don't agree scroll past" affer i responded... i wouldn't have engaged if that was there at first 😳

A 🚩 and a 🏴.

My biggest issue with YC is that he's making forever promises and plans that his real priorities won't let him keep... otherwise he could have been blameless in this.

Meanwhile, LF is just all issues. I'm not even sure what's redeemable about him. He's become a walking nightmare.

An explanation isn't a justification....connecting dots about what's happening and why doesnt make it right or "just."
SA and kidnapping YC aren't justifiable because of a heartbreak revenge trope.

The YC did nothing wrong bit i have to disagree with though. LF made sacrifices that YC bought into based on forever promises... saying YC didn't make LF cut off his family dismisses the discoussion and commitment to eachother that happened at the table when it was brought up. It was their deepest conversation. YC could have also easily said, that's not something he wants LF to do because he didn't want the emotional burden of a decision like that. Switching up from "you & me against the world" energy like that...

Regardless, still no justification, just explanations. YC being wrong for something doesn't make LF less wrong for many things. I agree with everything else about LF's selfishness - a real SOB with that forced outing to mom etc. then a demon 5 years after.

There are no innocents in this story, just like that doesn't exist in real life. Everyone's making choices based on their own priorities / self interest, and there's consequences to them that impact others.
It's a sad watch.

That wanting to destroy him felt very much unprovoked to me...YS was legit minding his own business and here comes a demon setting fire to his personal life and his career...

LF is extremely wrong in more ways than we can write about, the difference is he was provoked by an epic ghosting from YC...there's a revenge motive that just doesn't exist for FX for why he even started all that BS. It still boggles my mind too much... I'll never understand the "he's too good i want to taint him" story, whereas i understand but DON'T CONDONE LF's revenge story. (Edited to make it clear that I'm not justifying the revenge trope)

You make a fair point about willingness to let go... but that could also be because FX acknowledged he built a whole relationship on lies, whereas LF is holding on to promises made in the height of their real connection.

Honestly they're both so twisted... i can only tolerate in fiction.

Now that I've vented all that, I'm realizing it's quite possible the extent of LF's psychosis wasn't fathomable to YC... so he didn't know enough to skip the apology attempt...
There's a lot that he wouldn't have had the viewer's front row seat to.

Oh well. It's all been deliciously messy. Looking forward to wrapping it up next week.

I now think of this series as the journey to becoming 🚩 & 🏴....

Lu Feng's 🏴 is obvious, bro is a lost cause, it's the "gentle" Yichen's 🚩 that's more frustrating... his martyr syndrome is actually selfish when he isn't the only one living with the consequences of his choice - he doesn't want to be the bad guy to his family anymore, but he's ok being that to Lu Feng - he's picking what pain he's most comfortable living with and breaking Lu Feng's heart is the sacrifice he was willing to make.

Everything was intense in the hospital so i give a lot of grace for his reactions then... 5 years though? And you think you'll apologize and then what?

Knowing the sacrifices LF made that he didn't discourage and wouldn't match? LF took the promises so literally... Yichen surprised me because he hesitated with making promises during college years when the ring was first given, already imagined a future breakup, but then actually tries to fight for the relationship despite being locked up. Fast forward to reconciliation as working adults, he's more eager to make forever promises, yet won't give himself a second to think and process before making drastic decisions like a beard marriage.

Now even more years pass and you want to apologize for marrying someone else out of the blue? Lol. Shut up please. That kind of audacity in front of a psychotic is def a red flag at a bull.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I saw a comment calling Lu Feng a green flag and literally burst out.... stop playing!
The flag is beyond red. He's competing with Fan Xiao (to my shore) for most toxic & obsessive love interest (only reason he hasn't won is Lu Feng's motive at least started from a rational place).

We're still sat because it's the perfect recipe for a guilty pleasure watch - FICTIONAL "all-consuming, at the very edge of sanity and ready to fall off the cliff of reason," passion (hesitate to call it "love") where there's feelings on both sides...

We don't have to paint it with rainbows and unicorns to be entertained by their story...

😂😂😂 what was that??
The premise of Private Lessons makes more sense to me than this did… and it doesn’t have enough story to even make it comparable to Callboy or Giglo… it’s a league of its own.
Fewer positions and more backstory would have helped.

Is the promo budget higher than the production budget for this?

I think this would have been better as a short drama/vertical series, so viewer expectations would be moderate.

I'm upset at every post i saw about this on twitter that made it seem like there may be a BL undertone to soften the edges of the serious story.... now I'm here, nothing is soft, but i have to keep going because the story has reeled me in. Ughhhhh 😫

Please recommend other dramas with Li Yiyang level yearning & pursuit 🙌

I see both sides of a monarcy's relevance and sacrifice (exposure due to interest in Elizabeth, Diana, William, and Harry).

I agree that it's very existence reinforces classism, but to say that abolishment of an already constitutional monarchy will somehow allow for true meritocracy is too naive to me...

In the absense of the power share between the three groups, it all justs settles on the remaining two (i.e. the wealthy and the politically powerful). Eventually, the wealth tends to influence the political so really the wealthy emerge supreme.
The FL is as self-made as Kylie Jenner (iykyk 🫠) so even her motivations are questionable. And by the way, they too live by a set of norms and restrictions that impede true freedom (e.g. prime minister won't marry the "illegitimate child" while he's still trying to remain politically relevant), but they accept it for the privileges they get to enjoy.

So yea... i didn't agree with the rosy tint they put on abolishment, though i can understand why the heads wearing the crowns would want a break from the weight...

So I watched (and loved) this with my mom, it was a great bonding experience to live this bit of escapism for a few weeks.
We both had different reactions to Grand Prince I-An's end game.
As much as I enjoyed the show, realistically...

😂 the most inane part for me is that people are being like this about their entertainment choices...
Nobody lives or dies by these opinions, yet they're treated like a critical expression of some sort... I'm just fascinated by the level of passion brought to the viewership experience.

Everything cant always be so serious though, there's enough going on in real life to cause strain, entertainment doesn't have to as well.

🤣😂 both comments have me in tears.
Whyyyyy is this show so polarizing??

??... you called the actors "the face of the mess," and i asked if you would accept being called the face of a mess that's not your responsibility...
Not sure why you think i'm blaming you for anything.
In western countries, litigation runs rampant so PR companies and possibly even lawyers would have been engaged to ensure the actor isn't held responsible (even when something is actually their doing), so i don't agree that it's the same in western countries at all.