CynicalMunky

Yes, I have noticed that. Each to their own. It just doesn't work for me. I don't need a series to have lots of sex scenes (if any), but I can't deal with the over the top cringey stuff in P10liners. Also, it perpetuate a line of thinking that gay men are caricatures without any sexual desires. It's the old trope of "it's fine to be gay as long as you're not really being gay". I don't mind We Are as much though, it's not as bad as P10liners.

Well hello there...

Yeah I get that, and it's one of the reasons I watch them as well. Historically, lgbt storylines have had unhappy or tragic endings because the straight world could not deal with a happy lgbt storyline (because after all you can only be happy if you're straight - preferably CIS!). That being said, there are plenty of older BLS with the same problem - it's only really in recent years this trend has (thankfully!) changed. I have had straight stories shoved down my throat for years, so I have made it my mission to read/watch as many gay stories as I can to make up for lost time!

Oh yeah I think remember Chimon being in it now. Haha! Glad I dropped it now before I saw that kiss...

Them two kissed?? When? Wow... awkward...

I tried watching Never Let me Go and dropped it after 3 episodes. The whole master-servant thing between Phuwin and Pond really put me off. And considering their real life backgrounds it made it even worse somehow. I think never let me go was his attempt at something Aof'esque and it didn't work. Warp Effect is very good although not a BL per se, and Three Will Be Free is good - again, not a BL but in my view quite underrated. It does have Tay as a hot cute gay nerd which is always a plus❤️

Yeah I know exactly what you mean. Some of these actors are given way too many free passes. These performances would not really wash here, but they seem acceptable to audiences in Thailand. I honestly cringe every time I see those awkward kisses and have to skip ahead... How anyone can watch them is beyond me.

Yes, their story was annoying...

I don't personally rank them against each other as I think that's unfair. They're too different in what they create. I expect one thing from Aof and something else from JoJo.

Yes, but that comes from confidence, skill, being comfortable with the topic and the scenes.

It's not about whether one culture is better than the other, they're just different - which is why some stuff from Asia works in Europe (or not) and vice versa. I think for us (in Europe) acting in a way that doesn't come across as genuine is a turn-off, but it might be fine in Thailand. It's just how it is.

Not very hard by the looks of it!

Agreed! I would love to see First paired with Tay though 😍

I was a bit sceptical about Kant's outfits based on the initial pictures, but First is totally pulling it off and is giving proper sexy daddy vibes!

If only his acting wasn't so annoying...

Yes, now that the teeny boppers have stopped throwing their toys out of the pram about all the "sex" and the adults have entered the room...

Yes, I have noticed that. I always wondered why We Are or Perfect 10 liners are so popular - not to mention 2gether! It's just bland nonsense as far as I'm concerned. Everything is so cheesy, corny and cringey! Zero emotion in anything.

I wasn't saying you were comparing, I was referring to people in general comparing. And I agree - JoJo deserves more recognition, however, I think the reason why he doesn't get as much recognition is that his style of directing and his stories are not always "aligned" with what is deemed as "acceptable and/or appropriate" in SE Asia.

Both are good but they are different types of directors with different styles. People need to stop comparing apples and pears. I prefere JoJo's style, it is more gritty, sexy, dark and tongue in cheek - which does not surprise me considering some of the stuff he seems to enjoy watching (like the UK show fleabag). I think this may be one of the reason why his shows seem to do better over here than others. And not all of the stuff Aof does is good... People praise Midnight Chicken like it some kind of masterpiece... Really?? The storyline is all over the place and way too overengineered. A fiery boat accident? Seriously? Come on.

Why do people rate if they haven't watched the whole thing? Never makes sense to me. MDL need to change that setting.