CynicalMonkey

Yes, their story was annoying...

I don't personally rank them against each other as I think that's unfair. They're too different in what they create. I expect one thing from Aof and something else from JoJo.

Yes, but that comes from confidence, skill, being comfortable with the topic and the scenes.

It's not about whether one culture is better than the other, they're just different - which is why some stuff from Asia works in Europe (or not) and vice versa. I think for us (in Europe) acting in a way that doesn't come across as genuine is a turn-off, but it might be fine in Thailand. It's just how it is.

Not very hard by the looks of it!

Agreed! I would love to see First paired with Tay though 😍

I was a bit sceptical about Kant's outfits based on the initial pictures, but First is totally pulling it off and is giving proper sexy daddy vibes!

If only his acting wasn't so annoying...

Yes, now that the teeny boppers have stopped throwing their toys out of the pram about all the "sex" and the adults have entered the room...

Yes, I have noticed that. I always wondered why We Are or Perfect 10 liners are so popular - not to mention 2gether! It's just bland nonsense as far as I'm concerned. Everything is so cheesy, corny and cringey! Zero emotion in anything.

I wasn't saying you were comparing, I was referring to people in general comparing. And I agree - JoJo deserves more recognition, however, I think the reason why he doesn't get as much recognition is that his style of directing and his stories are not always "aligned" with what is deemed as "acceptable and/or appropriate" in SE Asia.

Both are good but they are different types of directors with different styles. People need to stop comparing apples and pears. I prefere JoJo's style, it is more gritty, sexy, dark and tongue in cheek - which does not surprise me considering some of the stuff he seems to enjoy watching (like the UK show fleabag). I think this may be one of the reason why his shows seem to do better over here than others. And not all of the stuff Aof does is good... People praise Midnight Chicken like it some kind of masterpiece... Really?? The storyline is all over the place and way too overengineered. A fiery boat accident? Seriously? Come on.

Why do people rate if they haven't watched the whole thing? Never makes sense to me. MDL need to change that setting.

If y’all think this is spicy then you’ve probably not watched some of the lgbt films made in Europe. Now I understand what Tay meant when he said they have a hard time cracking the European market - only friends being one of few exceptions. Also explains why First seems more popular in the West and latin America. Oh and I so love the daddy vibes First is giving off on this series 🤤it’s hot as f**k! 🔥🧯Baby get in my bed right now and you can do whatever you want with me! So glad he’s moving on from cutesy stuff!

Oh I have so many opinions on this I don’t even know where to begin! This incessant desexualisation of gay men by BL “fans” (and creators) really, really bugs me and I have had so many arguments on these boards over this. It is deeply rooted in homophobia and discomfort of gay men having an intimate relationship and bothers me to no end. I suspect it bothers JoJo as well which is why he has reacted. Gay men are real people, they are not caricatures or dolls. We (gay men) have sex with other men we find attractive! If you are not comfortable with that fact then you have unresolved issues with homosexuality. Stop desexualising us and making us dolls for you to play kissy with!

I have long since given up on ratings on this website when it comes to BL shows 😂you’re actually better off reading comments and reviews (but avoid any reviews that give a series 10/10 or even 9/10). I mean, 2gether has something like 7.8??!! 😳 that absolute pile of rubbish of a show!

Indeed. I don't need every series to be a masterpiece, but for cryin' out loud at least try and put some effort into making it decent!

I’m still waiting for the groin kick to happen!

I’ve finished watching it. It was good and I enjoyed it. I’m quite conservative with my ratings I think compared to others.

No worries 😌 I’m never rude to people, just the series 😂