I have a different opinion. I find that the ML character written very well. The ML personality isn't the domineering…
Not everyone is out to get you. I'm actually curious because I've been following the show's ratings on weibo and douyin and haven't seen what you were talking about, that's why I asked. How is that condescending?
I have a different opinion. I find that the ML character written very well. The ML personality isn't the domineering…
Which chinese fans? Weibo and douyin are mostly focused on Miyu's promotions, the main couple and the 2nd couple with Miyu's best friend, nothing with sml. Which chinese fans did you see disliking the ml or shipping fl with the "sml"? Just curious so that I can check it out as well
I don’t really know what to say, his character in the first 19 episodes is pretty pointless.He doesn’t do…
He did pursue her one more time after the lake incident, but he didn't meet her directly. He sends his army to basically kill all the remnants of her army and the group led by the couple who greatly helped him and the fl before. He then corners the fl and her army and wants to use the citizens' lives to force her to go back to him. After that Zhuge Yue appears for the first time after the lake incident and helps the fl. That's when he stops trying to force the fl back and focus on his ambitions.
I'm also pretty he did grow affection for his empress/one of the concubines that has also been with him from when he was younger. There's an entire chapter about her after her death that I skimmed through.
*These aren't really spoilers for the drama because it has went a completely different direction from the novel
Even if Bai Lu, Dilreba, Zhao Lusi, Zhou Ye, Wu Jinyan, Lu Yuxiao, Tian Xi Wei, Shen Yue etc., get casted people…
Even if they acted the exact same way as the current fl, most people wouldn't complain because they are "experienced". Not you in particular, but a lot of people here are just dogpiling and nitpicking the actress because of her age. She's also being scapegoated for all the drama's faults instead of the people who actually made these decisions.
A lot of complaints on actors don't even seem like the actors being bad but rather the script/director telling them to act that way.
I honestly think every single character has been reduced from their original portrayals in PA. The only exception…
They did the same with fated hearts but that one I'm fine with because everything else is better than the novel. The sml was kinda sacrificed to make everything else better especially the ml and fl. Can't say the same for princess agents/rebirth though, absolutely loved the novel but not as big of a fan of the dramas
It's a HE. In the novel, the ML was rescued by ordinary people after he fell into the frozen lake, not by that…
And after the lake incident YX and CQ basically have no contact until a conversation at the very end when fighting some "barbaric" army. It seems they are changing a lot so I don't think it will follow the novel at all.
I honestly think every single character has been reduced from their original portrayals in PA. The only exception…
He wasn't really this kind of obsessive in the novel. He never "schemed" to try and get the fl back after the frozen lake incident. The story is now completely different from the novel though
She was rejected first by zy , she is only trying to protect herself. She had bad experience with yan xun. If…
The "self worth" that only applies to the fl. She was going to marry Yan Xun at the end of PA and only stopped because Yan Xun used her to try and kill the ml. If that was the ml marrying the sfl we'd all want him to grovel for 40 eps to win her back yet here they are setting up a scenario where the ml will have to chase after her again while she pushes him away.
I hope this isn't going to leave me feeling like the "feelings"/love between ml and fl are imbalanced.…
But based on screen time, I should think of this more as a female centric drama with the fl being the sole protagonist and the ml being the biggest support character. If I think about it that way then it makes sense and won't annoy me
You're being disingenuous. She was 17 when the drama started and finished filming. The booting ceremony was december…
Yeah, there isn't really any romance so far. I just don't agree with framing it like she's, '19 years old doing a "lukewarm" romance cdrama?'. That's misinformation.
I hope this isn't going to leave me feeling like the "feelings"/love between ml and fl are imbalanced. Wasn't a big fan of the pushing away the fl was doing in the last 2 eps, while it seems like everything the ml is doing is for her.
The FL is going to be 19 years old in 3 months, what minor are you talking about? It's directed toward those who…
You're being disingenuous. She was 17 when the drama started and finished filming. The booting ceremony was december 2024 and wrap up was April 2025. The entire drama was filmed when she was 17.
It's very similar to the drama with Ai Mi and Hou Minghao, she is currently 17 and if nothing out of the norm happens, by the time the drama comes out she will be either 19 or close to it. Just like with rebirth, the person on screen is 17 with someone a decade older than them.
I think it's fair to feel uncomfortable because of that but I don't think either of the actors are to blame for it.
I never fully agree with the people calling MLs simps and insulting them, but after the last 2 episodes the ml here deserves it. I had no expectations and was still disappointed by the way he acted after the break up especially in contrast to the fl who was the actual problem in everything.
Kdrama writers should really give their MLs some self respect. The ml called himself pathetic and I couldn't agree more, atleast he's self aware. Wtf does he mean he will wait?? I couldn't believe my ears. He deserves the sadness and loneliness that's to come.
What C dramas would you recommend? It's hard to know where to start
It honestly depends on what you're looking for. For one with a similar premise to this but more focused on the healing and development of the lead's relationship is, "The first frost".
Why would you drink with your ex that you just broke up with, stay the night with said ex, all while your relationship is in a very volatile state? I get that they were close friends before dating but if you are in a relationship and you want to commit, it's your responsibility to ensure the relationship is protected. The very least she could have done is inform the ml of the situation through text and that is the bare minimum at floor level. She failed to set boundaries and that's what broke them up.
can someone recommend similiar drama? it may be chinese as well
The first frost. Similar premise of the fl separating with the ml somewhat harshly because of circumstances in her life. They then meet again after about 5 years. For now, I prefer Thevfirst frost more compared to still shining because 1) I think the reason for the fl seperating with the ml was very justified and 2) Even though she had a good reason, she still feels very remorseful, she acknowledges that she hurt him badly. I also just like the progression of their relationship after they reunite.
I'm also pretty he did grow affection for his empress/one of the concubines that has also been with him from when he was younger. There's an entire chapter about her after her death that I skimmed through.
*These aren't really spoilers for the drama because it has went a completely different direction from the novel
A lot of complaints on actors don't even seem like the actors being bad but rather the script/director telling them to act that way.
It's very similar to the drama with Ai Mi and Hou Minghao, she is currently 17 and if nothing out of the norm happens, by the time the drama comes out she will be either 19 or close to it. Just like with rebirth, the person on screen is 17 with someone a decade older than them.
I think it's fair to feel uncomfortable because of that but I don't think either of the actors are to blame for it.
Kdrama writers should really give their MLs some self respect. The ml called himself pathetic and I couldn't agree more, atleast he's self aware. Wtf does he mean he will wait?? I couldn't believe my ears. He deserves the sadness and loneliness that's to come.