Episode 15 & 16:The scenes of Su Taiyi giving medicine, money and house all over the place for his shifu had…
as for the social commentaries aspect, that part of Xiao Xiang Dong Er writing style, ever since her first novel Princess Agents, most of her work always had some social commentaries within it
that interesting, so from what you watch so far... you mind sharing what the story is about ?
“The Xiaowei arc wasn’t that strong, but it still worked as a character introduction. Then came Ji Ling keeping Lu Wuyi in the Dragon Mansion, and after that the illusion arc, which was quite interesting. But from there, the drama shifted focus heavily to TJR and JJY, and the rewind thing happened, along with that new character.”
First part, character introduction: sure, but if that is all you took away from it, you clearly did not understand what was happening.
Second part, illusion arc: “It was quite interesting.” We learn the backstory of the villain, the story of Li Jie and the Butterfly Demon, and we learn about Wu Shi Guang’s backstory and Wu Wu Yi’s involvement.
Third part, shifted focus heavily to TJR and JJY characters: we start with Hanba and eventually learn about the time travel loop.
The show literally tells you before each arc why they are there, what they are doing, and why they are doing it. There is a clear main story weaving its way through all three arcs you mentioned so far.
But yes, it might be confusing to you. That is why I have to ask, did you really watch the drama?
Yeah the editing is SO choppy, but I do like the Male Lead and the FL. this is the first time I seen her, but she have very good facial expression. especially when she drunk
She actually explains it to you in that same episode though.
She reached Core Formation three separate times. I do not know how familiar you are with the concept of cultivation.
What she was telling us in that moment is that even though she was gifted in cultivation, she could not make peace with her Dao Heart because of the injustice in the world. In the past, on three separate occasions, she interfered with mortal-world events (we don't know what they were), which caused her cultivation to drop and forced her to climb back up.
This basically tells us that it is within her nature to do so. That is why when Lu Qian Qiao found out about it, he was shocked. Even he did not think she would be like this.
I have not watched PA, so the things I know about PA are from other people’s recaps. I did, however, read the…
Well, to Rebirth’s defense, they did not really remake that specific scene. What was shown was only used to narratively explain what happened. As you point it out, yes there was alot of emotion weight behind that scene.
Even the events leading up to that point were crucial, but at that stage, why not just remake PA?
That is why continuity is such a big thing, and one of the biggest reasons Rebirth turned out the way it did. Certain things needed setup, which in the novel had already been established prior to those events.
PA is really a story of Chu Qiao’s journey and growth, so to be dropped into what is basically considered the climax is difficult, as Chu Qiao’s character really changes after this point.
The Chu Qiao in the part of the novel that Rebirth covers is barely the same Chu Qiao we see in Rebirth. A majority of the events in Rebirth deal with Chu Qiao and Zhuge Yue’s relationship, and how it almost becomes a reverse mirror of Yan Xun and Chu Qiao in PA.
But since we are only shown bits and pieces of Yan Xun and Chu Qiao’s relationship prior to the Ice Lake in Rebirth, there was almost nothing to contrast it with. Then there the obvious reason why we cant really have that, because of the female lead and they could not do certain things.
But it is sad to see, since they knew what the 80+ chapters of Rebirth would cover, that they did not consider a different option for the actress.
I have not watched PA, so the things I know about PA are from other people’s recaps. I did, however, read the…
"Like the mountain of corpses example I keep giving"
Just so you know that actually happen in the novel,
As for actions for Li Ce and his Mother was all made up in a sense . Her role in the novel was very limited. They expended on it by themself. Moving things around and changes thing, but the event does happen in the novel.
I don't disagree with most of what you say. Rebirth wasn't that great of a drama, even if I didn't read the novel. But since I know what happens in the novel, it is comparatively worse because I know how Zhuge Yue's character arc ends.
If you are interested in the novel, I wrote up a discussion about it, or you can read it yourself.
I really enjoy the novel, and I think it captures more than both PA and Rebirth managed to do.
As someone who didn't watch Princess Agents, this is so hard to watch but I'm trying my best to understand what's…
I have not watched PA, so the things I know about PA are from other people’s recaps. I did, however, read the entirety of the novel to get a better understanding of Rebirth.
1. It is a sequel in a sense that it picks up where PA ended. However, certain things in PA do not appear in Rebirth. Like her special ice power is a big one that people mention, and certain character who got kill are alive again.
2. Yes, the part where she was a slave is a thing in both PA and the novel. Where it differs is that in PA she was trained by Zhuge Yue to be a slave, which Rebirth continues. The Novel she was reborn into the current world, where she retain her memory of being a special force agent.
What is consistent at the start of Rebirth is that events follow pretty similarly to the novel, PA covers 190+ chapters of the novel, while Rebirth covers 80+ chapter til the end.
So as you watch Rebirth closer to the end, events are distorted, and things are changed for the dramatic ending.
While PA also changed things compared to the novel, it still largely follows the series of events in the novel.
I will mention that knowing what happened in Chu Qiao’s journey, and how her interactions with Yan Xun and Zhuge Yue shaped her, does in fact help you understand why she acts the way she does in Rebirth.
Well technically is not true, seem like you havent read my Discussion post on the topic ! 👀
IT CANT BE TRUE ! there have to be a first time line. She cant go back to save him if her meeting him is the reason she when back to save him 😖😣😩😫😵😵💫🫨
So he has to be alive in the first timeline to meet her! also for those who reading first time line =/= first rewind
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First part, character introduction: sure, but if that is all you took away from it, you clearly did not understand what was happening.
Second part, illusion arc: “It was quite interesting.” We learn the backstory of the villain, the story of Li Jie and the Butterfly Demon, and we learn about Wu Shi Guang’s backstory and Wu Wu Yi’s involvement.
Third part, shifted focus heavily to TJR and JJY characters: we start with Hanba and eventually learn about the time travel loop.
The show literally tells you before each arc why they are there, what they are doing, and why they are doing it. There is a clear main story weaving its way through all three arcs you mentioned so far.
But yes, it might be confusing to you. That is why I have to ask, did you really watch the drama?
Or do I need to dumb it down for better comprehension? 😭
but it clear from this you didn't even really watch the show.
How about this, what you have seen so far, what is it about? What are our characters trying to do
She reached Core Formation three separate times. I do not know how familiar you are with the concept of cultivation.
What she was telling us in that moment is that even though she was gifted in cultivation, she could not make peace with her Dao Heart because of the injustice in the world. In the past, on three separate occasions, she interfered with mortal-world events (we don't know what they were), which caused her cultivation to drop and forced her to climb back up.
This basically tells us that it is within her nature to do so. That is why when Lu Qian Qiao found out about it, he was shocked. Even he did not think she would be like this.
I think you would see what a mistake it was to take the story the way it did.
The novel is pretty old at this point like 15 year old, you can just google search for an english translastion
Even the events leading up to that point were crucial, but at that stage, why not just remake PA?
That is why continuity is such a big thing, and one of the biggest reasons Rebirth turned out the way it did. Certain things needed setup, which in the novel had already been established prior to those events.
PA is really a story of Chu Qiao’s journey and growth, so to be dropped into what is basically considered the climax is difficult, as Chu Qiao’s character really changes after this point.
The Chu Qiao in the part of the novel that Rebirth covers is barely the same Chu Qiao we see in Rebirth. A majority of the events in Rebirth deal with Chu Qiao and Zhuge Yue’s relationship, and how it almost becomes a reverse mirror of Yan Xun and Chu Qiao in PA.
But since we are only shown bits and pieces of Yan Xun and Chu Qiao’s relationship prior to the Ice Lake in Rebirth, there was almost nothing to contrast it with. Then there the obvious reason why we cant really have that, because of the female lead and they could not do certain things.
But it is sad to see, since they knew what the 80+ chapters of Rebirth would cover, that they did not consider a different option for the actress.
Just so you know that actually happen in the novel,
As for actions for Li Ce and his Mother was all made up in a sense . Her role in the novel was very limited. They expended on it by themself. Moving things around and changes thing, but the event does happen in the novel.
I don't disagree with most of what you say. Rebirth wasn't that great of a drama, even if I didn't read the novel. But since I know what happens in the novel, it is comparatively worse because I know how Zhuge Yue's character arc ends.
If you are interested in the novel, I wrote up a discussion about it, or you can read it yourself.
I really enjoy the novel, and I think it captures more than both PA and Rebirth managed to do.
1. It is a sequel in a sense that it picks up where PA ended. However, certain things in PA do not appear in Rebirth. Like her special ice power is a big one that people mention, and certain character who got kill are alive again.
2. Yes, the part where she was a slave is a thing in both PA and the novel. Where it differs is that in PA she was trained by Zhuge Yue to be a slave, which Rebirth continues. The Novel she was reborn into the current world, where she retain her memory of being a special force agent.
What is consistent at the start of Rebirth is that events follow pretty similarly to the novel, PA covers 190+ chapters of the novel, while Rebirth covers 80+ chapter til the end.
So as you watch Rebirth closer to the end, events are distorted, and things are changed for the dramatic ending.
While PA also changed things compared to the novel, it still largely follows the series of events in the novel.
I will mention that knowing what happened in Chu Qiao’s journey, and how her interactions with Yan Xun and Zhuge Yue shaped her, does in fact help you understand why she acts the way she does in Rebirth.
So he has to be alive in the first timeline to meet her! also for those who reading first time line =/= first rewind
Didn’t think I’d get an allegory of wealth inequality in a xianxia drama.
A world where the strong, the “rich,” get to hoard immortality, the “wealth,” while everyone else who made it possible is left to suffer.
Or the duality of Lu Qian Qiao, who is basically immortal and doesn't want it, vs everyone else in the show chasing it.
She also wrote The Eternal Fragrance