Posting here in the comments so no one gets spoiled. I think that the final scene after Ji Ling brings Lu WuYi…
Remember, LWY was created AFTER the event of the Flood Dragon clan.
This is when the WSG master blew WWY up, and she took each piece of the foxes to create LWY.
So JL going back to kill YJ here would not change the fact that WSG master took him away at Dragon Abyss
The Shilin Sect then lost track of WSG. WSG Master would also pass away with the event following Wu Zhi Qi
These events are unchanged by Ji Ling killing the Fox Queen early
He would eventually be at the Shilin Sect because of his hatred for dragon
All of this time, while this is happening, YWH would have died, and all of the people in the Shilin sect would have died because the event of YWH took place 150 years ago. There literally 100-year gap
Posting here in the comments so no one gets spoiled. I think that the final scene after Ji Ling brings Lu WuYi…
Yeah you can put it like that or he doesn't need a vessel and just need someone who immortal to be the fake dragon deity.
Maybe that was his original intend all along with YWH, until Ji Ling out of love for his "brother" took his place ... Maybe that why Chi Wen call it the eternal shackle.
Even if it was not intentional, Chi Wen trying to create the vessels inadvertently created the conditions needed for the time loop.
Posting here in the comments so no one gets spoiled. I think that the final scene after Ji Ling brings Lu WuYi…
Firstly, Chi Wen original plan was to have a vessel so he can move his spirit to. This was change at the last minute because he didn't want to sacrifice Ji Ling. So he suggest the creation of the 10th dragon.
Secondly Li Jie existence is strictly tie to Ji Ling, In a world Ji Ling does not exist YWH his two obsession would not have exist. Protect him and set him free.
If we want to consider the new timeline at the end that WSG is in, it a timeline that one LWY never existed and Ji Ling sadly committed suicided after witnessing people around him die and dying in that cave with his A 'Wu.
This because Ji Ling existence is strictly tie to LWY , after that cave scene
What you are seeing is essentially a classic bootstrap paradox.
If LWY no longer exists in the original world, then JL had no one to stop him from suicide
Logically, this would be true if every version of his suicide always happened the exact same way.
Because the loop seems to work like this:
LWY exists → enters the time loop → realizes she cannot save him through ordinary means → goes back to the point when JL is at his loneliest → prevents his death → JL survives and becomes LS → JY creates LWY to get close to JL → All the events that lead to LWY to go back to the moment when she severed her tail to give hope to JL
This order of event which creates a closed causal loop.
So LWY’s existence depends on JL surviving, while JL surviving depends on LWY existing. That is the paradox.
What JL does at the end of episode 29 appears to break that loop, which is why it can resolve the contradiction. He introduces a new choice outside the repeating chain of cause and effect.
There is a caveat to this, though he made those decisions in episode 29 with knowledge of the loop given by Lonescale
However, they did a poor job of showcasing the paradox, as they were indeed "fated ones" where one must live while the other must die. It literally means that, because if you look at the loop, they are the reason the other is alive/exists
I loved the series and I think I was able to follow along for most of the plot twists cause the answers would…
Yes, that is the reality of it: in a world where LWY would never have existed, JL would likely perish as well.
What you’re pointing out is essentially a classic bootstrap paradox.
“If LWY no longer exists in the original world, then JL had no one to stop him from suicide, right?”
Logically, that would be true if every version of his suicide always happened the exact same way.
Because the loop seems to work like this:
LWY exists → enters the time loop → realizes she cannot save him through ordinary means → goes back to the point when JL is at his loneliest → prevents his death → JL survives and becomes LS → JY creates LWY to get close to JL → All the events that lead to LWY to go back to the moment when she severed her tail to give hope to JL
This order of event which creates a closed causal loop.
So LWY’s existence depends on JL surviving, while JL surviving depends on LWY existing. That is the paradox.
What JL does at the end of episode 29 appears to break that loop, which is why it can resolve the contradiction. He introduces a new choice outside the repeating chain of cause and effect.
There is a caveat to this, though he made those decisions in episode 29 with knowledge of the loop given by Lonescale
However, they did a poor job of showcasing the paradox, as there was a "fated one" who must live while the other must die. It literally means that, because if you look at the loop, the other person is the reason the other one is alive/exist
Nothing will happen, JL also when it but he need scared power to created an exist (Gaining 6 petals) JY that when inside were most likely just either dead or stuck forever since both side are closed
I can just answer your post, Yes JL go back to save LWY, basically prevented her from every becoming who she is from episode 1 to episode 29 when she is possesed by JY.
Where he save her was when she was first originally created. So everything that happen from episode 1-29 Never happen.
So only WSG remember this
It open ended if JL remember this (he most likely does) but he choose to live as Ji Ling before he become Dragon deity living as a carefree fox meeting LWY (The same LWY he save) in this new world or could be the same world we cant tell for sure.
Guys I’m sorry but am I bit biased like this was not a happy ending for Li jie at all cause wdym he forgot all…
Yeah, the LJ ending is definitely sentimental or even sad, because before the world changed to the new timeline... He was actually hopeful... he even told WSG that "That he finally figured out who he is" and asked WSG to tell LJ when he is reborn after 1,000 years 😭😭😭
But afterward in episode 29, he asks himself, maybe he figured out who I am... But he was still hopeful
But this kinda confirm that only WSG remember the old timeline
This is when the WSG master blew WWY up, and she took each piece of the foxes to create LWY.
So JL going back to kill YJ here would not change the fact that WSG master took him away at Dragon Abyss
The Shilin Sect then lost track of WSG. WSG Master would also pass away with the event following Wu Zhi Qi
These events are unchanged by Ji Ling killing the Fox Queen early
He would eventually be at the Shilin Sect because of his hatred for dragon
All of this time, while this is happening, YWH would have died, and all of the people in the Shilin sect would have died because the event of YWH took place 150 years ago. There literally 100-year gap
Maybe that was his original intend all along with YWH, until Ji Ling out of love for his "brother" took his place ... Maybe that why Chi Wen call it the eternal shackle.
Even if it was not intentional, Chi Wen trying to create the vessels inadvertently created the conditions needed for the time loop.
Secondly Li Jie existence is strictly tie to Ji Ling, In a world Ji Ling does not exist YWH his two obsession would not have exist. Protect him and set him free.
If we want to consider the new timeline at the end that WSG is in, it a timeline that one LWY never existed and Ji Ling sadly committed suicided after witnessing people around him die and dying in that cave with his A 'Wu.
This because Ji Ling existence is strictly tie to LWY , after that cave scene
What you are seeing is essentially a classic bootstrap paradox.
If LWY no longer exists in the original world, then JL had no one to stop him from suicide
Logically, this would be true if every version of his suicide always happened the exact same way.
Because the loop seems to work like this:
LWY exists → enters the time loop → realizes she cannot save him through ordinary means → goes back to the point when JL is at his loneliest → prevents his death → JL survives and becomes LS → JY creates LWY to get close to JL → All the events that lead to LWY to go back to the moment when she severed her tail to give hope to JL
This order of event which creates a closed causal loop.
So LWY’s existence depends on JL surviving, while JL surviving depends on LWY existing. That is the paradox.
What JL does at the end of episode 29 appears to break that loop, which is why it can resolve the contradiction. He introduces a new choice outside the repeating chain of cause and effect.
There is a caveat to this, though he made those decisions in episode 29 with knowledge of the loop given by Lonescale
However, they did a poor job of showcasing the paradox, as they were indeed "fated ones" where one must live while the other must die. It literally means that, because if you look at the loop, they are the reason the other is alive/exists
JY at that point 100% doesnt have the power to do that.
We literally don't know they could have gone to a timeline where the star stone never landed
There would be no JY
The dragon sons would never need to sacrifice themself
WSG wouldnt existed
However, if you don't view them as fixed events (they always happen, no matter what, in all possible timelines).
Then it not really a paradox
What you’re pointing out is essentially a classic bootstrap paradox.
“If LWY no longer exists in the original world, then JL had no one to stop him from suicide, right?”
Logically, that would be true if every version of his suicide always happened the exact same way.
Because the loop seems to work like this:
LWY exists → enters the time loop → realizes she cannot save him through ordinary means → goes back to the point when JL is at his loneliest → prevents his death → JL survives and becomes LS → JY creates LWY to get close to JL → All the events that lead to LWY to go back to the moment when she severed her tail to give hope to JL
This order of event which creates a closed causal loop.
So LWY’s existence depends on JL surviving, while JL surviving depends on LWY existing. That is the paradox.
What JL does at the end of episode 29 appears to break that loop, which is why it can resolve the contradiction. He introduces a new choice outside the repeating chain of cause and effect.
There is a caveat to this, though he made those decisions in episode 29 with knowledge of the loop given by Lonescale
However, they did a poor job of showcasing the paradox, as there was a "fated one" who must live while the other must die. It literally means that, because if you look at the loop, the other person is the reason the other one is alive/exist
LWY going through everything was needed so she can go back in time to prevent JL from committing suicide back in the cave with his A'Wu.
In no world can those two really exist without the other. LWY was created specifically to get close to JL, but JL is also alive because LWY existed
In the new time line where WSG is, if there is no LWY there would also be no JL, because he would not be alive
Where he save her was when she was first originally created. So everything that happen from episode 1-29 Never happen.
So only WSG remember this
It open ended if JL remember this (he most likely does) but he choose to live as Ji Ling before he become Dragon deity living as a carefree fox meeting LWY (The same LWY he save) in this new world or could be the same world we cant tell for sure.
That why I think their ending in episode 29 was really the best way to resolve this
But afterward in episode 29, he asks himself, maybe he figured out who I am... But he was still hopeful
But this kinda confirm that only WSG remember the old timeline