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Replying to DramaAjumma Jul 17, 2022
Are you implying that only a man who has completely pure motives, is completely certain of everything, does everything…
I'm not frustrated. I'm just trying to work out what the issue is.
You have every right to your opinion but it's clarity I seek.
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Replying to LillostrationLizar Jul 17, 2022
And I scrolled through some post too. It seems that one person stated that they like Attorney Jung because of…
That's fine if that's what you think but I don't think the same way. I think everyone sees a particular situation differently and Jun-ho probably doesn't see the situation the same way his detractors do.
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Replying to DramaAjumma Jul 17, 2022
Are you implying that only a man who has completely pure motives, is completely certain of everything, does everything…
Because the purpose of your post was unclear that I assumed you were making a comparison between two suitors initially. In the original post you were comparing two men of different personality types, with different status in the company and completely different dynamics with the female lead. It's apples and oranges.
I don't have a problem if you're uncomfortable with Jun-ho per se but I don't understand how Jung Myung-seok is relevant to this discussion. He is Young-woo's boss, her mentor, some who holds a much higher position in the company with a broader set of life experiences. He would certainly have more confidence in how he deals with clients. Because of that he has to be professional at what he does particularly when mentoring new graduates.

Jun-ho, on the other hand, is a younger man with a different set of life experiences and his interest in Young-woo is completely different. He is dealing with something novel -- falling in love with a woman with special needs -- and he's probably having a hard time processing everything because it's out of his comfort zone. She's not just someone he works with nor is he some authority figure where he can make decisions for others. He's not the typical CEO male lead here. We know that he's very popular with the women in the office but he's never been interested in any of them. And now, he finds himself having feelings for this new attorney who comes with a disability. It's a very unusual situation for him or anybody for that matter. He must be grappling with so much right now that he's drinking his woes away. Rather than a flaw, I think he's just being human. Nobody knows perfectly what to do all the time when confronted with unusual situations. It's not as if they're already dating and he's being completely useless.
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Replying to LillostrationLizar Jul 17, 2022
And I scrolled through some post too. It seems that one person stated that they like Attorney Jung because of…
It depends on the opinion doesn't it? Not saying that the majority is always right but opinions should be open to scrutiny especially if expressed in a public place. But if you're referring to the comment that I think you are, the commenter wasn't just expressing an opinion, an argument was being made. In fact, it was an indirect comparison between two male characters in which one character came out of it sounding better than the other. Two men of different personalities with completely different status in the hierarchical structure of the firm with completely different dynamics with the female lead. The purpose of that post was unclear and I think people had the right to ask questions.
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Replying to DramaHeroine Jul 17, 2022
I'm gonna have to disappoint some of you guys and let you know that the drama is clearly telegraphing Young Woo…
This is one of the most baffling things about the show's reception -- fans positing a de facto love triangle where none exists. It's the stuff of fan wars. As far as I'm concerned it's irrelevant whether people root for Jun-ho or Jung Myeong-seok because at the end of the day the show will do what it will do regardless of which guy we prefer. LOL.
The only reason why the vast majority of people are behind a Jun-ho Young-woo pairing is because the drama itself is telling that story. and we're just showing our support for it.
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Replying to lime_pickle Jul 17, 2022
I sometimes wonder if the writer reaction to so many tsundre male leads in the past (and East Asian Confucian/patriachal…
There's something about the internet -- the anonymity perhaps. People tend to express opinions more strongly than if they were sitting across a room with someone.
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Replying to nappi Jul 17, 2022
It's so refreshing to see such a good boss like Attorney Jung! He's my second fav character after Woo Young Woo…
I think he's a great supervisor as well. He's a really good mentor with strong leadership skills. I like the way he uses the right person in court to prosecute various arguments. He comes across as a father-figure away from home.
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Replying to johndlc914 Jul 17, 2022
Ah sheet, here we go again. Autistic genius trope never gets old for me. They keep makin' it, I keep watchin'…
I'm the same. Heh.
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On Extraordinary Attorney Woo Jul 16, 2022
As someone who has watched over two hundred Asian dramas (conservative estimate) in a decade and a half where so many dramas (more than I can count) feature a rude manipulative male lead, it boggles my mind there are comments trying to prosecute the argument that Jun-ho is somehow not good enough for Young-woo because he's 70% there and not 100%. Or he doesn't fit some kind of unspoken arbitrary criteria. If it isn't being said outright, it's certainly being implied.

This is an office drama. There's a hierarchy at play so I'm not sure that it is as simple as some think things should be.

As far as I'm concerned Jun-ho is one of the nicest male leads I've ever seen. He has much more of a headstart than most.
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Replying to Dramanogu Jul 16, 2022
This is a very unpopular opinion and I know a lot, or mostly all of the person who watches this roots for Junho.…
Are you implying that only a man who has completely pure motives, is completely certain of everything, does everything right all the time, doesn't put a single wrong foot forward is worthy of a woman with special needs? Frankly speaking, if that's the case, I don't know if such a man exists.

Regardless of who we root for shouldn't the question be what the show itself is saying or doing? Jung Myung-seok is her direct supervisor. High up in the food chain. It is his job to be responsible for the rookies under him. There's nothing inherently romantic about that. Jun-ho is not even a lawyer in the firm and maybe he respects Young-woo's independence as a lawyer.

Shouldn't we also consider what the script is saying about the romance not just talk about our preferences?
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Replying to zucchan Jul 16, 2022
Lee Joon Ho: from the first episode he cares about woo young woo, he's always nice to her, he goes into crisis…
What about Woo-young and Jung Myung-seok?
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Replying to Pincolino Jul 16, 2022
This is disturbing. And the most disturbing thing is, that most people don't think it's disturbing. The girl is…
It's probably a timely reminder to all that it's important to think through what you want to say and how you say it before hitting the "Post" button. Making false equivalences with stereotypes will get anyone into trouble every single time because there are moral ramifications for asserting strong stances.

Young-woo is not a child. She is an adult on the autism spectrum with specifically defined life experiences so life has that adventurous quality for her. She may have some child-like qualities although as someone who has had a fair bit to do with children over the years I don't know of any children who act or think like her at all. She is very unique in her own right and doesn't even represent all manifestations of ASD.

Just because she has ASD doesn't mean that she doesn't have the capacity to think and feel like the rest of us. It's a bit of a myth probably propagated by other depictions of autistic savants in the past. If anything, they're probably a lot more sensitive.
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Replying to HumptyDumpty Jul 15, 2022
Anyone know why does male lead has so many names? Ling Bu Yi, Ling ZhiSheng, 11th brother (zhi yi lang). Does…
People (mostly men) in those days had what they call a style or courtesy name on top of their birth name once they reach 20.
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Replying to Extraordinary Attorney Woo Jul 15, 2022
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The main reason I think for that is that the vast majority of drama viewers are women and so often it's about relatability and positioning the predominantly female audience to identify with the lead character. That's why the main female characters are of often of a particular type played by a particular type of actress. There have certainly been many shifts in thinking about gender relations and some of those developments are a result of ideas around "female empowerment" played out in male-female violence.

In large part it is really about appealing to the audience.
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On Extraordinary Attorney Woo Jul 15, 2022
It's been established quite literally from the first episode that the romance between Young-woo and Jun-ho is in the works. I don't think the set-up can be any clearer than their first meeting so yes, I am surprised to hear that this has become a point of contention.

Jun-ho is so obviously the perfect man... for her. It's almost as if he was sent from heaven at the right place, at the right time.. for her. He's the only person in the world (aside from her dad) who doesn't think her quirks and mannerisms are weird. He accommodates her like it's second nature and doesn't even think twice about her being "special needs". He doesn't even think in those categories. The whole revolving door episode is a case in point. I think he deals with her better than her father even. It's obvious he thinks that everything about her is lovely and charming especially the whale talk which he heartily encourages and everybody else just tolerates. I should also add that he was the only person that I remember that pointed out that her name is a palindrome without her doing so.

There's also prefiguring in the second episode (I think) about the passing of the torch or baton. A man who will take over from Dad in looking after her. It takes an extraordinary man to fall for the extraordinary attorney Woo.

I know everyone has their biases but this romance is meaningfully and deliberately written into the storyline. This is why Jun-ho is one of most delightful male leads ever to appear in a K drama because he cannot be the typical CEO jerk who falls for the autistic girl. Now that would be a much harder sell.
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Replying to Lya Jul 15, 2022
In the name of kdrama logic, episode 8! I'm counting on YOU!!!!
From your lips to the ears of the showrunners.
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