Well, no it is not that unbelievable to me. Fear of fire is not thatunusual as a phobia induced by a traumatic…
It does not look like Nan Xing had therapy for that fire phobia. We have no info about whatever treatment she could have had for PTSD. But she was able to hold a lit candle for her stepmom's birthday, so perhaps she only got triggered by high flames that emit burning sounds. A gas stove is not silent, so I suppose she would avoid it. But maybe not candles for special occasions and fireworks in the sky. I am not sure we saw her terrorized by thunder and lightning? Like some people I know who are strongly allergic (toxic shock) to some seafood like oysters, but can eat with no problem fish, shrimp, lobster and even mussels and St Jacques. Allergies and phobias can be weirdly peculiar.
And now we need to wait until Friday for new installments. Still 14 episodes to go, 6 total for Friday-Saturday-Sunday. I don't like to watch previews thatmuch, so I'll keep away until then. ๐
I was going with the flow until the FL explained her story about fear of fire. She was like i have to just avoid…
Well, no it is not that unbelievable to me. Fear of fire is not thatunusual as a phobia induced by a traumatic incident. There are waysto cope with it without needing cooks and maids. I am lucky I did not directly witness people on fire through accidents, kitchen gas leaks explosions, forest fire, or gasoline suicide. The answer to such a phobia can be : use electric burners and microwave, no garden bbq and preferably no wood burning in the chimney. It is possible to avoid open flames in kitchen to cook, or for heating.. And as for money, she says she is not rich but she inherited property and got loving support from the stepmom. So she is not destitute and can afford take-out (very cheap and common in China), or change from gas to electricity for appliances.
There's no mention of dubber on the wiki.d-addicts page, so I assume he is not. I am not very familiar with his…
Well, I hunted a bit for Chen ZY songs and interviews, and I found that one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3pjbQ-J0D0. Comparing with the ๅฅฝๅฅฝๅฅฝๆๅๅง sentence with the ice cream cone at the end of #8, I'd say : not dubbed. ๐ But you are right about remembering a different voice from former dramas since he was voiced by Su Shang Qing in Handsome Siblings (but there is no mention of dubbing voice in the other previous dramas recorded on dramawiki). It's interesting to listen to Chen ZY and Shen Yue singing together the theme song here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXJ9eijiEUM. Looking forward to find Chen ZY again in 2023 in announced Chinese Paladin 4 (with Ju JingYi), and in Hidden Love (with Zhao LuSi).
Wait till you watch 'a romance of a little forest ', it's an ongoing drama too ....you will pull all your hair…
Totally agree. Mr Bad is a breath of fresh air when this little forest had me gasping for air... I am still watching AROLF because am committed to stay "completionist", but have no expectation since SFL and boss are starting to make out. So boring. Therefore, strayed to the big bad wolf who always is so funny in cartoons : the title drew me, and I was happy to discover Chen ZheYuan : I will look up more from him, because he's won me over in the first 2 episodes already and now I'm eagerly awaiting #9-10 to keep being entertained. The trampoline bit was fun; the sharing ice cream was a bit expected, I'm waiting to see how much they smeared on each other's noses now and how they got rid of it (licking?) I ran to get one from the fridge for myself, but did not dare wake up hubby to share it that way ? Nice October 1st treats.... ?
There's no mention of dubber on the wiki.d-addicts page, so I assume he is not. I am not very familiar with his voice yet. He is a singer too, so I will try to hunt down some shows where he is speaking, to check if there's a difference to my partly deaf ears ๐
ooh yeah, it's up till episode 6 there, when we are left hanging at 2 on YT ! Same as most here, to me, the title was clickbait, the face of FL and the abs of ML were very enticing : just a nice distraction to go with mooncakes. New faces, actors, actresses, for me to discover, and not too long , timewise, to consume episodes . They could even be longer, I wouldn't mind: maybe they'll be collected into a big fat one later, as Youku/YT often seems to be doing for short episodes dramas? But since I clicked : curious as a cat, I want to lick that yummy fishy drama-thing already. For tonight at least. 6x10' = just a small hour. Fine! ไธญ็ง่ๅฟซไน ! fellow c-drama addicts ๐
Leo Rosy in modern movie trailer (by fans)Link: http://b23.tv/jRPNI60
Fun! ๐ I thought about that too : LLTG as fanfiction of fanfiction going back to Dracula via Twilight and 50SoG. Popular fiction blockbusters. Not high literature ; but try also to read Mauprat by George Sand and Emily Brontรซ's Wuthering Heights for the thrills and message that love is pain... LLTG feels quite in line with these concepts of romanticism.
Some scenes were definitely cut in the slashwork to pare the drama down to 57 episodes. That's what I felt in…
(Putting a spoiler tag on because this is not related to LLTG per se but to what commenters have about it)
Ah yes CloudA : Corriander, you are so right. --- Such a selfless and dedicated person to go and make such excellent videos for us to gain better perspective. I think she really does her research carefully. I had a few exchanges withe her about the differences between concubines and consorts and she went digging in the novel and history to decide that yes, Yuan was a consort in LLTG just as Yin was in the historical model. We also had some exchanges about the use and concept of courtesy names vs infancy names and other given names and misc details. So I signed up to her channel. She is one great asset for MDL.
I think AvX is also trustworthy for the poetry and history or costume notes.
But perhaps she watched too many different things and did not dig deep to unearth Guangwu. She did not mention him in her two videos about LLTG although being aware that Wen was a founding father of a dynasty and the setting was in the first 2 decades of his reign. So she went talking in her latest "final" video comparing him to ... Liu Bang (Han Dynasty 1st emperor - yes she got it wrong, she did not unearth Xin and Eastern Han dynasties...๐), Tang Tai Zong, Li Yuan (Tang dynasty, wth? ๐ฎ) and Zhu Yuanzhang (Ming ๐)
I really cannot say that historical Guangwu was not like the founding emperors she described "ruthless... cruel", but one thing's sure, Liu Xiu did marry a sweetheart as first wife when he was still not aware he'd become an emperor. He did not repudiate Yin or demote her to concubine when he married Guo for politics, he treated both ladies well enough to have a thriving brood, and when he decided to demote Guo and give the empress title back to Yin . He'd created it for her in the first place, but Guo had a son, Yin still had not, so it was better to assure the line at the time by making Guo empress which she remained for 16 years. After demoting her, emperor LiuXiu/Wenshu endowed Guo with a title and a fief and a feudal king title for her youngest son (shrewdly keeping the elder son of Yin as potential Crown Prince if something happened to Guo's son. The latter was not in a feud with the Yin line princes and preferred to make way for Yin's elder son so eventually all this ended up rather peacefully and amicably while Wenshu and his new empress were on speaking and visiting terms with the former empress, and the new Crown prince did not feel compelled to wipe out his predecessor and the Guo line princes. (Info gathered from Wikipedia, English and Chinese versions, Baidu and a couple other encyclopedias that don't contradict each other)
I also take exception with Wu Lei described as "wooden" (with those sizzling gazes ?? He reminded me of Clark Gable as Rhett Butler from Gone with the wind!) Plus he certainly was not only seen facing front. There are plenty of moments when we see him from the side or even from the back. Looking up to the stars, down to the little lady pinned under him in the self defense lesson ๐
As for Zhao LuSi : keeping mentioning her comedic character and fleshy face made me scrunch my eyebrows. She certainly did not play the happy child in the first part, when CSS was severely beaten and discriminated against. She's even shed tears there already. That she acted more reflectively in the second part is in line with her having been before a reckless adolescent, and I admired that I could feel a difference between the two.
AvX criticism of costume and color in LLTG also made me puzzle : If the producers had been as lavish and creative as she suggested they could be, I am sure it would have warranted even harsher comments from the mean lady. But in the drama, it is clearly said from the start that the population was to obey regulations about frugality, because the country was still poor. It was recovering from decades of civil wars (modeled on those at the end of Han dynasty and the short lived Xin from which Liu Xiu had carved and created Eastern Han, capital Luoyang : not the thriving one that was the refuge of Wu Zetian later, but a smaller size city, nestled in a bend of the Jianhe river, that flows to Luohe river, south of which is the city we know better - I visited once, in search of the famed peonies. Today the site of Eastern Han Luoyang is in a spot called Wangcheng park. )
Bah. AvX's videos there did not bring me much. Perhaps others here observed the same thing as I did in those two videos. If I am the umpteenth to say so, please stay benevolent : I was just venting my dissatisfaction about whatI felt was lukewarm and unwholesome demolition, and I will keep quiet about that, from now on. LLTG is over, sigh. It is time to move on to do something else.... ๐
Some scenes were definitely cut in the slashwork to pare the drama down to 57 episodes. That's what I felt in…
On YT someone from China replied to a comment of mine that cutting 10 episodes was just rumor, so I actually still wonder about the truth in this matter. It would explain some rushed feeling, inconsistencies etc so I would like to hope there's a treasure trove of cut parts that could be restored sometime, and that it is not just wish-thinking.
About AvX, I do find her videos about costume, accessories making , poetry and History notes, and guqin playing, very interesting. So I still pop over to check if there's anything like that on her channels. But I was disappointed that she proffered a handful of emperors from later dynasties to support her idea that this Wen was too unlikely, without making a mention of Liu Xiu/Wenshu/Guangwu. Maybe she had no time to check about that one, unlike us lucky souls who had commenters on this forum, and watched the interesting companion videos of C-Drama Q&A on YT.
C-Drama Q&A on YT.s sweet lady researcher is clearly in love with LLTG and has read the 179+6 chapters of the original basis novel. I particularly liked her latest video on cultural details, with the part about the jade ornaments hanging "like wind chimes" from the belts. Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smyZZxfW7-g&lc=Ugxu80-PSVIF1PcVh9J4AaABAg.9f8smsvaS0w9fAzT-vXVuL Anyway, it's true that this Guangwu, his empresses and his brood, cannot be more than (strong) inspiration and some characters were source modelled (again for inspiration only) from elsewhere or completely made up (our delightful CSS/NiaoNiao and H/LBY/Zisheng/Shiyilang).
Thanks for confirming the heat index characeristics. Do you happen to know what was the items that scored highest, to have a perspective ?
Ah how disappointing, I was really really looking forward to Leo and Lusi working together again however I guess…
Thank you for liking my idle thoughts ๐ค I was happy to read truly interesting essays and comments in this forum, although I usually (for other dramas) just skim what's in reactions, without adding to the deluge of words. Also because I know that when I get started, I could end up inflicting on unsuspecting readers just too much in too many directions. I therefore also admire those who can remain concise. I do try to restrain myself. ๐
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But she was able to hold a lit candle for her stepmom's birthday, so perhaps she only got triggered by high flames that emit burning sounds. A gas stove is not silent, so I suppose she would avoid it. But maybe not candles for special occasions and fireworks in the sky. I am not sure we saw her terrorized by thunder and lightning?
Like some people I know who are strongly allergic (toxic shock) to some seafood like oysters, but can eat with no problem fish, shrimp, lobster and even mussels and St Jacques.
Allergies and phobias can be weirdly peculiar.
It is possible to avoid open flames in kitchen to cook, or for heating.. And as for money, she says she is not rich but she inherited property and got loving support from the stepmom. So she is not destitute and can afford take-out (very cheap and common in China), or change from gas to electricity for appliances.
But you are right about remembering a different voice from former dramas since he was voiced by Su Shang Qing in Handsome Siblings (but there is no mention of dubbing voice in the other previous dramas recorded on dramawiki).
It's interesting to listen to Chen ZY and Shen Yue singing together the theme song here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXJ9eijiEUM.
Looking forward to find Chen ZY again in 2023 in announced Chinese Paladin 4 (with Ju JingYi), and in Hidden Love (with Zhao LuSi).
Made me regret not having such a playground near where I am based ๐
I am not very familiar with his voice yet. He is a singer too, so I will try to hunt down some shows where he is speaking, to check if there's a difference to my partly deaf ears ๐
Same as most here, to me, the title was clickbait, the face of FL and the abs of ML were very enticing : just a nice distraction to go with mooncakes.
New faces, actors, actresses, for me to discover, and not too long , timewise, to consume episodes . They could even be longer, I wouldn't mind: maybe they'll be collected into a big fat one later, as Youku/YT often seems to be doing for short episodes dramas? But since I clicked : curious as a cat, I want to lick that yummy fishy drama-thing already. For tonight at least. 6x10' = just a small hour. Fine!
ไธญ็ง่ๅฟซไน ! fellow c-drama addicts ๐
Ah yes CloudA : Corriander, you are so right. --- Such a selfless and dedicated person to go and make such excellent videos for us to gain better perspective.
I think she really does her research carefully. I had a few exchanges withe her about the differences between concubines and consorts and she went digging in the novel and history to decide that yes, Yuan was a consort in LLTG just as Yin was in the historical model. We also had some exchanges about the use and concept of courtesy names vs infancy names and other given names and misc details. So I signed up to her channel. She is one great asset for MDL.
I think AvX is also trustworthy for the poetry and history or costume notes.
But perhaps she watched too many different things and did not dig deep to unearth Guangwu. She did not mention him in her two videos about LLTG although being aware that Wen was a founding father of a dynasty and the setting was in the first 2 decades of his reign. So she went talking in her latest "final" video comparing him to ... Liu Bang (Han Dynasty 1st emperor - yes she got it wrong, she did not unearth Xin and Eastern Han dynasties...๐), Tang Tai Zong, Li Yuan (Tang dynasty, wth? ๐ฎ) and Zhu Yuanzhang (Ming ๐)
I really cannot say that historical Guangwu was not like the founding emperors she described "ruthless... cruel", but one thing's sure, Liu Xiu did marry a sweetheart as first wife when he was still not aware he'd become an emperor. He did not repudiate Yin or demote her to concubine when he married Guo for politics, he treated both ladies well enough to have a thriving brood, and when he decided to demote Guo and give the empress title back to Yin . He'd created it for her in the first place, but Guo had a son, Yin still had not, so it was better to assure the line at the time by making Guo empress which she remained for 16 years. After demoting her, emperor LiuXiu/Wenshu endowed Guo with a title and a fief and a feudal king title for her youngest son (shrewdly keeping the elder son of Yin as potential Crown Prince if something happened to Guo's son. The latter was not in a feud with the Yin line princes and preferred to make way for Yin's elder son so eventually all this ended up rather peacefully and amicably while Wenshu and his new empress were on speaking and visiting terms with the former empress, and the new Crown prince did not feel compelled to wipe out his predecessor and the Guo line princes. (Info gathered from Wikipedia, English and Chinese versions, Baidu and a couple other encyclopedias that don't contradict each other)
I also take exception with Wu Lei described as "wooden" (with those sizzling gazes ?? He reminded me of Clark Gable as Rhett Butler from Gone with the wind!) Plus he certainly was not only seen facing front. There are plenty of moments when we see him from the side or even from the back. Looking up to the stars, down to the little lady pinned under him in the self defense lesson ๐
As for Zhao LuSi : keeping mentioning her comedic character and fleshy face made me scrunch my eyebrows. She certainly did not play the happy child in the first part, when CSS was severely beaten and discriminated against. She's even shed tears there already. That she acted more reflectively in the second part is in line with her having been before a reckless adolescent, and I admired that I could feel a difference between the two.
AvX criticism of costume and color in LLTG also made me puzzle : If the producers had been as lavish and creative as she suggested they could be, I am sure it would have warranted even harsher comments from the mean lady. But in the drama, it is clearly said from the start that the population was to obey regulations about frugality, because the country was still poor. It was recovering from decades of civil wars (modeled on those at the end of Han dynasty and the short lived Xin from which Liu Xiu had carved and created Eastern Han, capital Luoyang : not the thriving one that was the refuge of Wu Zetian later, but a smaller size city, nestled in a bend of the Jianhe river, that flows to Luohe river, south of which is the city we know better - I visited once, in search of the famed peonies. Today the site of Eastern Han Luoyang is in a spot called Wangcheng park. )
Bah. AvX's videos there did not bring me much. Perhaps others here observed the same thing as I did in those two videos. If I am the umpteenth to say so, please stay benevolent : I was just venting my dissatisfaction about whatI felt was lukewarm and unwholesome demolition, and I will keep quiet about that, from now on.
LLTG is over, sigh. It is time to move on to do something else.... ๐
About AvX, I do find her videos about costume, accessories making , poetry and History notes, and guqin playing, very interesting. So I still pop over to check if there's anything like that on her channels. But I was disappointed that she proffered a handful of emperors from later dynasties to support her idea that this Wen was too unlikely, without making a mention of Liu Xiu/Wenshu/Guangwu. Maybe she had no time to check about that one, unlike us lucky souls who had commenters on this forum, and watched the interesting companion videos of C-Drama Q&A on YT.
C-Drama Q&A on YT.s sweet lady researcher is clearly in love with LLTG and has read the 179+6 chapters of the original basis novel. I particularly liked her latest video on cultural details, with the part about the jade ornaments hanging "like wind chimes" from the belts. Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smyZZxfW7-g&lc=Ugxu80-PSVIF1PcVh9J4AaABAg.9f8smsvaS0w9fAzT-vXVuL
Anyway, it's true that this Guangwu, his empresses and his brood, cannot be more than (strong) inspiration and some characters were source modelled (again for inspiration only) from elsewhere or completely made up (our delightful CSS/NiaoNiao and H/LBY/Zisheng/Shiyilang).
Thanks for confirming the heat index characeristics. Do you happen to know what was the items that scored highest, to have a perspective ?
I was happy to read truly interesting essays and comments in this forum, although I usually (for other dramas) just skim what's in reactions, without adding to the deluge of words. Also because I know that when I get started, I could end up inflicting on unsuspecting readers just too much in too many directions. I therefore also admire those who can remain concise. I do try to restrain myself. ๐