InspectorMegre

Well thank you for your kind words.

I do not have enough information on ML... if you mean the dude stalking FL...
My first impressions is that something is terribly wrong - he was stalking her - walking behind her so close late at night, lying to her - telling her he lives in the same building, and then invited her into his house late at night... He was on a blind date... My first impression: he looks like a player.

The most disturbing thing is that she never ever asked him any questions. She told him what she thinks about him and he never confirmed or denied her guesses - which is indirect lying - and she still did not ask... She is too clingy and greedy, and wants this "boy toy" but she has no clue about him, and he isnt presenting anything useful about himself, so imo this spells T R O U B L E.

So... ML is not a good guy, He is not honest, he does not communicate, and he keeps secrets. Seems like he is there to play. Seems like he got money, he has nice clothes, an apartment, and a big car. But he seems .... a frivolous kind of guy. Someone into open relationships and experiments.

Those are first impressions. PLAYER.
But ... without more info, we do not know. He could be a recently divorced dude trying to figure out his next phase in life. Or someone who just recovered from terminal illness. Or .... but I doubt it...

He looks more like a rich kid away from home having fun... Or some kind of drifter having fun.... Or some kind of ...likely-to-be-lose-and-exploring hippie profession dude - like ... well... an "artist", a nightclub guy, ,something like that.... He got money and he got time, and he keeps hanging around different women... Who else is he dating now, scheduled to go on a date with, or considering... ? We saw him on a blind date with a dress-to-impress professional-looking woman in an expensive restaurant at night.... . HOW is he pulling it off... ?

I dont think he is a criminal because then he would not be so openly after her - UNLESS he specializes in kidnaping and/or killing single women :) If he were upper crust male prostitute / drug dealer, or a gangster, etc... he would be under the radar and would have stayed away from her...
I dont think he is a policeperson in disguise who is having some fun while on secret duty LOL someone like that would also stay low key .... would not be chasing her and inviting her in.

so we do not know yet for sure WHO that dude is.... We just saw some irresponsible scary patterns that do not look promising... ... . We just know he is creepy, dishonest, secretive, is quick to play, and FL blindly fell for him without ANY discernment, ie we have a dangerous situation

Luckily, I never watched Something In The Rain :) Sounds like an awful drama ie a total waste of time.

But I do consider DK one of the worst I have ever seen. The messages are totally delulu - except environmentally friendly baby products.

Hm so much effort to psychoanalyze me as an individual, instead of discussing the drama.

dont you think you are acting like someone sensitive who got offended and then sidetracked the issues that I brought up by accusing me of being the bad guy?

Has anyone told you that you were an insecure snowflake? LOL

you are making me a bad guy so that you have a justification to skip dealing with questions I brought to the table.

you are basically trying to shut me up ( and in a slimey passive aggressive way)

OK if that is your strategy - it is waste of time :) bc issues never go away, regardless if you are shut me up or not.

I would respect you only if you have meaningful responses to the issues I brought up, if we can have a discussion on it.

Since not ...

So ... do not bother me anymore :) I said what I said and it is not going away

yeah, you got me thinking on the kids... I think the kids will have to come to him somehow on their own... and he can gently probe sometimes and offer help... and he can do that remotely too...

Once he comes back from this short trip, he should probably go see some kind of counselor and then work his way into working somewhere part time so that he can be with people, and clean up and remodel his house... that will give him a chance to part with his wife and her stuff... and see the kids... and hopefully by then... he and the kids will be starting to look more like an O and rolling together :)

there will be that period where they have to lose their sharp edges...

let's see what the writer thought of :)

Thank you for this discussion, you made me think about his duty to the kids and vice versa... The kids also have duty to him.....and he has duty to himself...

I am gonna check out, I had much fun, but it is very late now :)

The daugher acted as a reckless spoiled entitled brat. She asked that someone FAST bring it in rain, called her mother repeatedly over cell phone and talked for a long time while mother was driving in heavy rain, than called again while mother was driving in heavy rain and yelled at mother to hurry up...

and her mother is equally guilty .. not calling courier, answering her phone and talking while driving and rushing in heavy rain .... The mother should have said ***NO*** HEY KID IT IS RAINING TOO HARD JUST LIVE WITHOUT YOUR THING SORRY!!!!!

What mother and daughter did are all MINDLESS RECKLESS BEHAVIORS that did contribute to the accident. Ok I can use the word "contribute" if word "cause" irritates you

you can say well WTOD caused the accident anyways - maybe - and maybe not. If it were not raining and IF the mother was NOT on the cell phone and rushing to her daughter, ... most likely the mother would be more alert and somehow avoid the accident

Yes I agree with what you wrote. Imo you described well his enabler role in the codependent relationship aka toxicity with wife and kids and what was necessary for the family to heal, and never happened

I see your points of him being there for the kids.. Well... his daughter wasnt there for 7 years and his son wasnt really there... so ... I dont feel any pressure for dad to sacrifice himself again .... the kids are adults and chose what they chose, so ... they will have to deal with it on their own...
In short: the kids never respected their father, they never helped him for 7 year, so ... to hell with the kids :) To be blunt. Staying in that house where he was jailed for 7 years ... for the sake of kids who never moved one finger for him or the mother ... NO THANKS :) It is best that he start his own life right away. If he had some loving family he could stay with for a while, that would be the best m but I dont think he has

I hear your concern about him rushing into a new woman... Yeah bc he was an enabler, a coddling type, he is definitely not prepared to have good relationship... so hooefully he will have a good new learning experience...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af-jZUR3ua0 HE NEEDS TO LEARN TO ROLL ON HIS OWN

so far he was a missing piece to his (toxic) wife and kids

answer to how to get ready https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af-jZUR3ua0

yeah FL and her mother together are guilty for causing that accident and they have to accept it is their fault, they were mindlessly RECKLESS

and then hating each other for 7 years is ... really bad

highly recommended: Ordinary People (1980 american movie) which is about resolving the exact same flawed situation - that movie resolved it, this drama did not :) but hopefully will do so in 11 more episodes

ok we have different opinions on that. It's ok. But my main question to you is: *****What WOULD he be doing at home all alone.... ? *****

Clarification: I was not trying to say she was dead to him or 7 years. I was saying that **he** had no life and no wife for 7 years. *** He*** was essentially dead for 7 years, pretending he is happy and caring for his wife, totally forgetting himself and his needs and his own personal life. He had a terminally ill immobile depressed bitter PATIENT to care for. She never went out. So he never went out. He was sad and lonely but he faked happiness and kept trying to communicate witih her, but essentially he banged his head against the wall for 7 years.

I personally think it is great for him to get out after 7 yrs. What WOULD he be doing at home all alone.... ? It would be sooo depressing... he alrady spent 7 years thinking of things....

Life is too short, my dear. This man is ALIVE after being essentially dead for 7 years. Let him live. Asap. The best thing for him to do is to go somewhere where some nice people take care of him so that he can rest and enjoy himself. A very lively place where he can enjoy the vibrancy of LIFE. he was out of life for 7 years. Time to catch up

and yeah this is equivalent of those cheap romance novels that ppl read in 1900s :) But this kind is intended to feed sexism. Young girls are new to hormones so everything related to s.x is ah so enticing to them, and they just do NOT ask questions. They are too greedy and hungry to get it, so they run into it without much thinking. So they are eager to catch some action... This is as old as dirt and will not change any time soon LOL We are talking mating call and strategies to ensure mating in the animal species called homo sapiens LOL From the point of view of survical of species, young women ARE supposed to reproduce, so the hormonal pull into that ancient setup will be working hard to blindside their thinking and their heart :) Their youth nd immaturity drives them to seek happiness via someone else who will adore them and take care of them ...
In other words, they are sooo setup to look for love in all wrong ways and wrong places... looking for a cute dotting puppy in love, a powerul protector and sugar daddy who also provides great s.x

And these cheap romance novels teach young women they will somehow "succeed" by the same strategies that enslave them. Be pretty, be dumb, be kind, be clutzy poor loser, and you will catch a sugar daddy who will run your life for you. It is a double wammy brainwashing... you are becoming a perfect slave so that you can become a coveted slave...
Society is ah so no intrested in teaching kids any better :) moms and dads are guilty too...
Sexist men in power benefit from this. Women are too busy fighting each other and chasing some d.ck who will give them nirvana, and the good old boy networks stay intact :)

men are guilty too... it is much easier to control a dumb loser woman so men will secretly like such chicks :) If she doesnt cause any problems, does not ask difficult questions, is not as smart as the guy, is always on his side, and jumps into bed easy, she will be popular. / her guy will keep her..... Dont you think men support those types? Girls chose not to be good at math so that theyt can get dates...

No, not all kdramas have negative messages like this one... ... I am not sure if you are referring to just rom coms or any kdramas? There are higher quality rom coms...
But I am not sure what YOU like.
I like dramas with redemption arc, with character growth, which means - clear communication, being honest, resolving problems, being equal partners, working as a good team, warmth, lightness, humor, empathy, etc etc etc... I love dramas that make me think and learn something, and even have fun. I like kdramas that address true and higher orms of love and have deep and constructive messages in an interesting story. I dislike TMI skinship bc it is essentially voyerism and I have full trust that our drama characters definitely know what to do, and i rather use drama time for some interesting fun plot....
I love great love stories, family stories, creative stories.. . AND THERE ARE PLENTY KDRAMAS THAT IMPRESSED ME! I watched mostly kdramas for warmth, lightnss, sophistication, creativity and humor... imo cdramas are too crude, mostly survival oriented and lack humor and lightness... but when Chinese make something great, nobody else has anything that deep... like movie Xuan Zhang.... Hong Kong is awesome too, movie maker Stephen Chow has all amazing movies.... and jdramas tend to be either too simple or too ... perv. Sorry. The art of Yudo, Only for Married and Romantics Anonymous are rare jdrama rom coms I liked. Thai dramas can be fun but also can be quite lewd. Sorry. One of my fav movies is Thai movie youth rom com That Little Thing Called Love, absolutely lovely.

So I am gonna write from the top of my head the Kdramas that have extremely memorable plot and scenes that are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond grabbing someone's hand and pinning them to the wall or TMI skinship...... with a rich guy

So... this is kdramas I liked ... .. from the top of my head...
Let's start with rom coms.... Right now I am thinking classic oldies like What's Wrong with Secretary Kim and Fight My Way - they are legendary classic rom coms that are pretty high quality ... .... WWWSK is the cold CEO and his employee but ... the script is *smart* and positive.... I totally loved drama Love so Divine LOL I love teenage rom coms and family dramas... One of my favorites of all times is Twinkling Watermellon... I am a musician and dancer and one of the best performances I have ever seen in my life is the scene when Young Dad sings Man In Yellow Shirt for his love intrest - who hates him LOL That was his first time ever on stage and the deal is, if he performs well, she will be his girlfriend.... If you want to see a guy in super hot pursuit, there he is!!!! He is sooo alive and vibrant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z9avVTnZ8M Another memorable unique rom com is My Sweet Mobster... and young ppl rom com/melo Growing Season... and small town rom com Small Town Cha Cha Cha....
I love fantasies. My Roommate is a Gumiho is a very very deep rom com, one of my favorites ever... talks about overcoming an addiction to attention via s.x.... Goblin is a great rom com too... talks about a very caring and moral man who waits for his love to grow up...For older people, "rom com" Heavenly Ever After... I love c-k-rom com Making Family... korean boy with Chinese dad... Oh.. also... My Wife is a Gangster... korean small male gangster and chinese female gangster boss... LOL has hillarious translation scenes... that is like slapstick comedy LOL
Familiar Wife is a reaaaly fun "tim travel rom com" for people in long term relationships... Legend of The Blue Sea rom com with a mermaid... and My Love From ANother Star rom com with the alien Min Do LOL that rom com sometimes gets too stupid since FL is not quite smart, but it has fun with the alien so it is worth it...

I dislike rom coms Mr Queen and Coffee Prince bc they are based on lying and I did not find the lying funny at all. Big is another rom com that is ok but not great. There is Kill Me Heal Me totally crazy - literally! - romcom. I was not thrilled but you might like it. There are tons and tons of older rom coms like that....

There are so many other comical kdramas that are not rom coms, like... High School Return of a Gangster... the very deep Familyhood movie....
and the comments of the MDL audience after the last episode of Twelve LMAO It was wickedly shredding the drama that 100% flopped, I dont remember anyone who liked that drama - but how they expressed it was ... omg humorous - so polite and so ... on the point ...

Recently on the lighter rom commy side, I liked Haunted Palace (minus the horror - I fast forwarded through that) bc Imugi and Shaman both transformed and worked as a great team.... and Imugi in human body was sooooooo!!!! fun LOL Bon Apettit ML copied him... .... yeah Bon Apettit is ok, it is worth watching just to see the ML bc he is sooooo fun, so vibrant and having fun acting makjang..

I loved gay and straight romances and friends in Hesu from Class 2... it was so tasteful and so modern and deep, and FL is so wise
I even though First Night with Duke wasnt toooo bad.... the cartoon ML turned out to be human... and FL was competent... My Dearest Nemesis started very immature but the drama discussed some bad stereotyping and that couple ended up very equal and communicating extremely clearly, such a great team... that FL was so competent... My Troubled Star was somewhat cringey but not too bad either, it had some amazingly deep scenes .... Undercover Hgh School was quite cute.... Moon River right now is all right for most part and has excellent acting so it can count as "fun"...

I love little heavier but totally comedic kdramas... like Dream Life of Mr. Kim, a perfect masterpiece, and Don't Call me Ma'am ... They are comical about very heavy subjects, and DCMM has the classic hormonal story inside too... .... Both should be made into more episodes..
Right now, I am floored by Love Me kdrama- the plot the acting the music .. they set up the story in just 2 episodes and if they can show how the ppl grew from it, it will become a classic masterpiece drama.. ., It is somewhat related to american movie Ordinary People...
I adore creative stories and excellent acting in kdrama Love Track...
I love even the "creative experiments" kdramas that try to bring some important messages, like S-lines although it is not the best filmed drama... Walking on Thin Ice was amazing too... Second Shot at Love was not fantastic but it tried to cover recovery from alcoholism with humor...
I also like the "quiet" rom coms without drama..... Love Scout was impressive relationship of two functional adults...

I love psychological thrillers with love stories or family stories...
There are TONS of other older kdramas that are super deep and amazing and go into true love concepts, like ... My Mister, My Wfe is Having an Affair This Week, Discovery of Love, King and the Clown, thrillers Again my Life, Flower of Evil, Mother, etc etc etc .... Because This is My First Life is a modern one and quite all right UNTIL THE VERY END when it turns into some very evil selfish cultural destruction messages... ditching family ties, etc.
I love family kdramas... good ones are hard to come by but are worth it. A Family drama has 50 episodes and can cover multigenerational and many-people plots in detail... Once Again, My Father is Strange, all but the end of Iron Family, Five Enough, are all comical and tragical and everything LOL I even found some great dailies... Queen's House after ep 30 is quite decent. Ep1-30 can be squished into like ... 5 episodes of FL being super dumb naive blind...

but see these are MY tastes so you need to find your own...

and the only way really is to do some research... If you like to watch kdramas, you gonna be busy for a long time. I havent watched even 20% of the old masterpieces I wish to watch...

Watching a current drama is fun bc of comments from the audience, imo that really helps to see other points of view, however, there are so many masterpiece oldies worth watching on your own. A good place to start is MDL list of top 100, then dramabeans has their list of what audience picked and what moderators picked, then there are blogs with top 10 .... rom coms, melos, etc etc etc. Viki reviews are usually pretty accurate... MDL reviews are usually accurate from a teenager's point of view ...

So ... good luck hunting, I am sure you will find what YOU like!!!! the sea is big, cast your net wide!

Yeah both mother and daughter did wrong for 7 years... Did I write a review or only a post... ?

I suggest watching american movie Ordinary People from 1980, that is where you will find the answers to your questions

This drama shows what NOT to do :) Hopefully they will transform

This is 1950s drama... an overbearing CEO and a powerless meek KIND sexy dumb poor woman under his control.... His sexual harassment at work, and her constant lying .... and TMI frequent skinship .... good only for 18-24yr old state of mind in the "blind hormonal phase"

This drama is a double whammy brainwashing bc it teaches women that being powerless, clumzy, dumb, lying, etc etc but KIND and SEXY will somehow bring them Mr. Sugar Daddy who will always take care of them like a ... father figure who also has great s.x with them. But being like that is exactly what keeps these same women powerless LOL This drama is the fantasy that will keep women down, and fired, and marrying anyone persistent, and geting dumped and divorced fast. This drama is a total delulu

Oh this is sooo cute!!! the acting is great and the stories are so creative.
But too short :) I want to see what happened AFTER

this has potential as there are many single moms with sons

is this a drama or some kind of reality show... ?

yeah tons of cheesiness, fluff and silliness from 1950s - I am using 50s as a metaphor, this is actually 1850s drama...

So many are upset that CEO slapped a (female) employee - a scene from 1950s...
but not upset that team leader / director / whatever his big shot job is called ML threw an important work report into a swimming pool, pinned FL to the wall, yelled at her to quit, keeps grabbing her wrist, trying to kiss her, touches her all the time, etc etc etc? also all scenes from 1950s...

HOW ARE THESE TWO MEN BEHAVING DIFFERENTLY? it is all under harassment at work, including sexual harassment

"yes but ML loves her" - ooooh doesnt that sound ... biased? and .... too.... naive?

bc of tons of cheesiness, fluff and silliness from 1950s and it is year 2025 right now

There were some... Off the bat examples... Dream Life of Mr Kim... Walking on Thin Ice.... I would even say Haunted House....

yeah tons of cheesiness, fluff and silliness from 1950s