InspectorMegre

There were some... Off the bat examples... Dream Life of Mr Kim... Walking on Thin Ice.... I would even say Haunted House....

yeah tons of cheesiness, fluff and silliness from 1950s

yeah tons of cheesiness, fluff and silliness from 1950s

It is kids voting it up. This is 18-24yr old women drama, and youngsters are more likely to rate

bc in first few episodes, FL was free and active and contributing
Later, she became a pale wall flower, lying all the time, and he became her knight in the shining armor.
A climzy dumb loser girl and a sugar daddy saving her all the time is just NOT sexy by definition. ML ACTED AS THE FATHER OF FL

The Cinderella story here of overbearing CEO falling for a kind but LOSER trepid girl is the classic trope in most c-dramas and k-dramas

It is the most sexist delulu dream that kills two birds with one stone... It is catch 22...

it is a dream of a powerless person (the woman) somehow winning in the old boys game by being in the brainwashing she was trained in, the brainwashing intended to keep her a powerless pion in that game.

So that trope brainwashes women to stay obedient, kind, dumb, losers, poor, and gives them a bait delulu dream that it is possible to "win" like that.

This is totally deviously evil.

DK promotes dangerous ideas... So many naive women who think DK is hot are going to get fired by the same boss who initially hit on them (either bc they refused him, did not accept him fast enough, stepped on his toes as his lover, he woke up on the wrong side of bed, he got tired of them, the other women competing with him will frame her or gain his favor, and/or he found a new girl toy). And, so many passive women are gonna marry a guy in hot pursuit only to see him quit putting so much effort and get a divorce 1-3 yrs later

That is why this is called drama for 18-24yr old women. A typical one has no or very little life experience and will fall for the hormones without thinking, it is all new and too enticing, so women of this age group and/or mentality are the primary target of predators.

i learned some korean today thanks to you... LOL This is useful. thank you

I have a better summary of this drama: young adult FL and her mother together cause an accident with devastating consequences, and then hate and blame each other for it; daughter actively and openly, and mother indirectly and passively. This issue is the PINK ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM that the whole family tiptoes around. The dad and son never challenge the two women and try to keep the pretense of a nice family. Out of "consideration", the dad essentially chains himself to his bitter abusive wife's side for 7 years, while daughter abandons the family and the son lives his own life as a parasite in the parents' house.

We see two parents who tried hard to keep up an image of exemplary parents who do everything for their kids. The accident exposed the parents as robots on automatic pilot, not thinking what they were doing and not ready to be responsible for the consequences. The accident exposed that the kids turned out entitled and disfuctional, the daughter ended up as essentially a chronic mental case, and the son is essentially a drifter. The accident exposed that the parents and the marriage were so weak. And all out of refusing self reflection. self accountability and communication.

Then... there is a crack in this game, and a new game starts, but are the players changed enough to behave differently and create a diferent, better results.... ?

yes it is weird how he courts her... Remember, he already saw her many times...

and what is most weird, FL never asks any questions about him. She states she "knows" some info about him and never asks him for any info.

Notice that it is her usual pattern of being a very weak person, a coward, of someone who tries to get without giving, someone who NEVER self reflects nor communicates. The first meager attempt at that was phoning her dead mother to say she didnt tell her to come, but it is faaaar from where an adult needs to be

FL by definition, bc how she *is* now, cannot attract any decent man

see the post in Discussions

usually what annoys us is either what we are but dont admit it, or what we wish to be and think we cannot have it; or some issues we feel deeply about
in any case you better find out what it is

bc it makes you pay attention to their acting. The costume is the same, but the acting is super different.
It is actually quite delightful to find out they swapped, it is like a surprise twist. It makes the drama more fun.
Also, there are usually warnings and by now you know that every time they get cut and use water....

So this drama is not for audience that turned their brain off.

My educated guess is that body swap (and super excellent impersonations by the actors) might challenge super conservative audience and closeted lgbt+. as it plays with gender stereotypes and could induce homophobia in some....

The audience has to be secure enough to find it comical, as it truly is comical

imo her name would be automatically cleared if LM is proclaimed a traitor... and easily cleared if LM is dead.... bc there would be no opposition to clearing her name and it would be easy to even make up evidence to clear her name... Disclaimer: i am not an expert on Joseon law and politicking LOL

CP /king cannot just make up evidence that LM is a traitor - as kings usually do - bc LM has the entire court under his control and has the written agreement

but CP said it would be hard, bc LM is such a good fighter. Seems like CP thinks that LM would win...
I think poisonous tea party is better... but LM never drinks anything with anyone LOL

Nobody can tell what the previews are about, they are always twisty and tricking the audience

Daughter is guilty of demanding that her mother be superhuman... Daughter is guilty for causing an accident and refusing to deal with that fact for 7 years, openly hating her mother and being nasty to her mother like it was mother's fault. Yeah, the daughter post-death feeling of remorse is the first step, but she never ever really self reflected on the entire situation...

Mother is guilty of hating the daughter for it for 7 years and dumping it on the father. Mother is guilty for recklessly behaving as if she were superhuman mom and blindly giving in to anything her child requested... and when the consequences of that hit her, pun intended, and ruined her life, she did not forgive her daughter.... but she created a daugher like that!!!! and she willingly went out in rain, answered the cell phone while driving in th rain, rushed driving in the rain, ..... without any precautions, and even with this pride in acting as a superhuman mom.

Dad is guilty for keeping the rosey glasses on for 7 years, always lying it was not daughter's fault, never blaming his wife, never forcing the two women to come to terms with it..... and giving up his life to take care of his wife and allowing his wife to keep abusing him for 7 years;

and the son of course is totally immature too. He lives off his sister and parents, has fun, nevertries to be independent, flits around with various majors but does not put the effort into school, etc.

The daughter caused the accident. Calling for an urgent delivery in rain, non-stop calling the driver while driving, yelling to hurry up... is all causing the accident. a courier would also be injured in that rain

The daughter in that rain was ****Demanding**** that the mom be the perfect supermom....

The mother too is guilty of trying to perform as a superman mom and then not able to hold her own responsibiltiy for not calling the courier and for answering her cell phone and rushing while driving in the rain.

The father is guilty for trying to be a superman dad, telling his daughter it was not her fault, telling his wife it was not her fault,..... then sticking like glue to his wife, never having a life on his own...

He is guilty for trying to be a superman husband and stay cooped up with his bed-ridden wife for 7 years, allowing her depression and abuse. They should have gone to a psychiatrist. But they did not want or could not pay? They went to church. Wasnt there some kind of free counseling there?
The father was trying to be a superman husband.... for 7 years being a hermit trying to shower love on his very sick wife....

So yeah... in ep 2, the immature daughter runs into an immature guy who is also quite creepy. She knows nothing about him... she just met him "on the street" so to speak and he already lied to her once that he lives in the same building... and then she jumps into a relationship with him, enticed by s.x

So yeah... as soon as the father gets off the leash in ep 2, and back into the life, he will fall for some woman... but who knows what she is gonna be like...

And yeah, we already seen what kind the immature son fell for..


So by the end of ep 2, we know the faults of the whole family - total lack of communication and self accountability, sheltered immature kids, and parents pretending to be superhuman and completely failing to upkeep the pretense.

BC NOBODY IN THIS FAMILY COMMUNICATES CLEARLY, FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT THEY LACK SELF REFLECTION AND INNER STRENGTH TO BE HONEST WITH SELF AND OTHERS

This is a masterful drama so far. By the end of ep 2, we know the faults of the whole family - total lack of communication and self accountability, sheltered immature kids, and parents pretending to be superhuman and completely failing to keep up the pretense. The family members lack inner strength to honestly face oneself and thus are too weak to honestly face each other. It is a very toxic family that looks like a socially acceptable "nice family".

The drama starts when all of this accidentally gets exposed - pun intended .... The main issue is that the family fails to talk about the resulting open hatred and guilt in the family, which destroys the family and its members.

This reminds me of one of my favorite movies ever, a classic american movie Ordinary People (1980). Two teenage brothers secretly paddled in a small boat to open water; a storm suddenly came and the popular older son drowned, and the quiet younger son Conrad survived with guilt. The mother was so cold and dissing Conrad, and never forgave Conrad for surviving while "her" son died.... The father tried talking to her to help her see what she is doing to Conrad, but she refused to change. Eventually the father took Conrad and left the mother.

So that movie is where a family resolved a situation where family members fail to be self reflective and accountable to self and each other.
Here, the drama is about a family that was not even willing to resolve it....
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>>>> This drama exposes that "consideration towards others" based on lying to each other is totally fake, false, toxic, and destructive. <<<<<

In this drama, the parents TRY to be superheroes who sacrifice for the other members of the family to KEEP THE PRETENSE OF "PEACE AND HARMONY".
The first misfortune exposes that it is all fake and that the entire family is based on lies and very weak, and the whole family falls apart, BUT STILL KEEPS THE PRETENSE OF "PEACE AND HARMONY" although the daughter behaves as a jerk and the mother too. Both kids are irresponsible, super spoiled and weak brats, and the parents' lives are ruined, and the dad keeps upholding the pretense "out of consideration".

This kdrama shows what happens when you keep upholding the pretense of "being there for each other" but without self-reflection and self-accountability, without honest communication and calling each other to responsibility. **** The result is a disaster **** ... pun intended.
The parents here are older so they kept the pretense for many years. A younger couple might have divorced early and then repeated the same with new partners.

FL's friends young couple show a way to keep the pretense - drink alcohol every night....

FL's Mother and father are guilty of pretending to be super parents. Father is guilty of pretending to be a super husband. Daughter is guilty of being a spoiled cruel brat without any sense of self reflection and self responsiblitiy. Son too...

Son is an adult parasite and a drifter, living off his sister and parents, without trying hard to become independent.... .....
Dad is a healthy man who was essentially a single guy with no private life whatsoever, doing a 24/7 caretaker job for a very ill and abusive person, for 7 years. Yeah he is gonna crack bad too.... Father is gonna fall for the first woman who tries to grab him....

And the daughter is gonna crack bad too, as her "run away from responsiblity" life leads to disasters.... like meeting a new, rather weird guy and not asking questions...

Their new relationships are all gonna fail because of this. Son's already did...

so let us see if the drama can make these characters grow up in 11 episodes...
If this drama manages to address that in a positive constructive realistic way, it will be a masterpiece.
A sure way to kill this drama would be to keep generating plot out of their toxic unchanged selves.

Now spoilers with profile analysis

Indeed! I think even worse of FL than what you described.... FL is immature and quite mean, selfish and very weak. She did the first step in post-asking her mom for forgiveness, but she still has not faced the fact that she DID cause the accident and the 7 yrs
I totally dislike kdrama trope of telling someone like that "accident is not your fault". It clearly WAS. Calling in rain for urgent delivery would have killed a courier too... Calling the driver repeatedly during driving in rain, and yelling to hurry up, is causing the death of that driver.
So there is no way FL will get into a great relationship, since she herself is murky and lacks self reflection still.
Her mother is murky too as she has never forgiven her daughter. The two of them force hell on the whole family, as the father and the marriage lack the strength to confront mother or daughter and have it resolved. I like american movie Ordinary People a lot better about handling this. But this drama is about what happens if not handled.

I disagree with you about the father. The father already was cooped up for 7 years! and deserves to get out.... and also, he had 7 years of "dead wife" and a new romance is not rushed at all. First of all, the father should have gone to Jeju on a vacation to have some time to grieve, and also some time to ***REST*** after working so hard for 7 years, putting the sick person first, putting up with her constant abuse and depression, and never ever having a life. He deserves a fresh start, asap. DAD HAS NOT LIVED FOR 7 YEARS.
Also, he was not a man for 7 years and he must be quite ... horny at this point and a woman is gonna easily be on his radar.... And if it happened, great. But yeah, his relationship will not be great either since he has not learned to communicate and clear things up...

So please do not treat the father as if he should be a hermit. He is a live healthy man who was essentially a single guy with no private life whatsoever and a 24/7 caretaker job for a very ill person for 7 years. Let him LIVE NOW he is finally free

There is also a lot of humor in this drama :)

Imo she cannot have a good relationship since she herself is very murky irresponsible and immature, and lacks self reflection. She did the first step in post-asking her mom for forgiveness, but she still has not faced the fact that she caused the accident and 7 yrs