I am in a very similar predicament! I‘m 4 episodes in and I really REALLY dislike Charlie (and imo Charlie’s…
Women are just here to hold umbrellas for the boys when it's time for them to race... And you don't need women in a world where men can get pregnant... 🙄 And you talking about the little boy reminded me something that I totally forgot to mention in my comment while I was so shocked to see that in the series: none of the boys cared about the kids... They are supposed to interrupt Tony's fake charity auction to save the children but when Alan came to save Jeff, they left without the kids!!!! Jeff wanted to bring them with them but Alan refused!!!! And when Charlie suddenly appear to save Babe, he wants him to run away before Babe refused!!!! That was so egotistical that it was hilarious and it reminded me of them leaving Kim behind when they came to save him. I mean we don't know what happens to the kids that were supposed to be sold and I'm pretty sure that the ones already sold are still under the ownership of the billionaires at this point. That's hilarious and at the same time very disappointing the little care they have for those poor children...
And I'm glad I'm not crazy for thinking there was something going on between Way and Pete. But then, they showed us that kiss which was - as you said - totally random to go back in the present day and not only kill Way in a stupid way (so no Pete/Way for sure) but also totally ignoring Pete and Kenta at the end (so no Pete/Kenta too). I don't understand anything about what they tried to do with them...
I'm really disappointed that these kind of shows are still very much liked because people will continue making them and we will continue being fooled by the ratings. I mean, shows need to be different to please a large part of the audience but at least, even if Love In the Air was very bad - and I still don't understand the hype for Payu and Rain's ship -, the second couple was more interesting to watch. Here, none of the couples and characters were interesting, the story was all over the place and there was absolutely no chemistry at all between the two main leads. I've rated it a 2 only because of Pavel and Nut's chemistry. They should've been the end game.
I am in a very similar predicament! I‘m 4 episodes in and I really REALLY dislike Charlie (and imo Charlie’s…
Yes, I finally ended the suffering!! For Way's part, you're absolutely right. Him being the Enigma is weird. Especially because, as you mentioned, he wasted so much time and there are no freaking reasons why Tony did nothing to him all these years when he easily slaps Kenta for the slightest mistake. But the story is so all over the place that I'm not even surprised now...
You'll be happy because, yes, the third couple that I mentioned was Pete and Kenta. But you'll also be disappointed because the only thing we see of them is just a kiss. Nothing more happen between them. I don't even know if the writers wanted us to ship Pete with Way or with Kenta because I felt that there was a weird connection between Pete and Way but then, they showed Pete and Kenta kissing so I was very confused. But I'm not going to spoil more, I don't want to ruin all the fun of discovering this mess 😆
And I was wondering exactly the same about Alan! I'm as confused as you concerning his age because him being refered as "uncle" makes no sense. To me, he's no more than in his early 30s so why are they calling him "uncle" when most of them are in their late 20s... But it's not the only thing that doesn't make sense in this show...
I am in a very similar predicament! I‘m 4 episodes in and I really REALLY dislike Charlie (and imo Charlie’s…
Thanks to your explanation, I understand better now the Alpha/Enigma thing. I never heard about this novel before and I'm not the kind of person to look for information about the series beforehand (unless, I'm really interested in watching the series). So, I was really lost since the first episode with the Alpha term, and then, they introduced Enigma, which lost me even more...
I'm on episode 11 now, so I'm not going to spoil but I agree with you on the plot not making a lot of sense. I just want to correct you on the fact that Tony didn't send Charlie to Babe but Charlie did it on his own (for whatever reasons). Tony was even mad at Kenta for not knowing that before. But I agree that Charlie should have been an Enigma. I would even improve the story by making Tony sending Charlie flirting with Babe and they SLOWLY (because they don't know that word) fall in love with each other. And then, Babe discovers the truth and so on... It would have probably been a thousand times better if it happened like this...
Anyway, it seems that there's a third couple (or fourth if you count North and Sonic) and I couldn't care less... The only thing I'm caring about is that I still have 2 episodes to watch and I'm free!!! To be honest, episode 10 and 11 are quite easy to watch because we don't see Charlie much (that was a relief!) and even Babe in episode 11. But they are compensating with Alan and Jeff... At least, they are more likable that the former couple.
And I made a mistake in my previous comment with Kim's name. I called him Win 😅 I care so less about the characters that I can't even remember their names properly 🤣
I am in a very similar predicament! I‘m 4 episodes in and I really REALLY dislike Charlie (and imo Charlie’s…
Is them calling each other "Mama" and "Papa" one of the pet peeves you were talking about? Because I'm absolutely disgusted everytime they call each other that... I've just finished episode 8 and I'm not giving up but I'm skipping all the kisses and s*x scenes from Babe and Charlie for now. I can't see them together anymore... I understand the feeling you have towards the characters, I feel the same. I don't feel invested in any of the characters from this series. And that's a shame because there are good actors in there, they are just not in the right series... And I was even saying to myself when watching those episodes that if Babe and Way would have ended up together instead of Charlie, it would have been much better! Because, I don't know if you agree with me or not, but Pavel and Nut have so much chemistry compared with Pooh, that it's a shame they didn't use that to their advantage to make a good show (I know it's based from a book, but why not improve the source material!). I'm really lost with the terms Alpha and Enigma (they didn't even dare to explain to us what it was exactly). I feel that Enigma is Way but that would make things even weirder... Because Charlie explained to Babe that Tony wants to force Babe and Enigma to have a child for him to own a sort of superhero but... are they living in another universe where two men can conceive?... Because if not, that's not possible for obvious reasons... Anyway, the end of episode 8 was so comical that I thought I was watching a comedy. Sonic and North followed Winner to save Win and, at the end, they left him alone with Winner. That was hilarious!!
I am in a very similar predicament! I‘m 4 episodes in and I really REALLY dislike Charlie (and imo Charlie’s…
I just finished episode 3 and I want to kill myself... It's ONLY episode 3 and Babe's already kissing Charlie. There are 10 more episodes so what are they even going to show us at this point because Babe is already in love (which feels so out of character...). He even added a heart to Charlie's name in his contact. That's ridiculous! And I understand your feelings for the second couple now that they introduced Jeff, I don't feel them either... I don't really mind Jeff but I feel like Alan is a bit too intrusive when Jeff clearly specified that he doesn't like being touched. But at least, I'm okay watching their scenes compared to Babe and Charlie's. Also, is it me or the series turned a bit into sci-fi?... It became X-Men all of a sudden with children having powers and a weird guy using them for a unknown purpose... I don't know where they're going with that but it doesn't fit the genre of the series... Let's go watch episode 4! (And I've seen that you've already on episode 8! Is it any better?)
I am in a very similar predicament! I‘m 4 episodes in and I really REALLY dislike Charlie (and imo Charlie’s…
Yeah, I'm going to continue watching. I hate dropping shows, even if I don't like them, because I can't properly judge them. And sometimes (very rarely), the show got better by the end so we never know! My taste has also definitely changed. I know that if I were to rewatch some shows that I loved in the past nowadays, I would probably not like them as much or at all. But, unlike you, I've become less tolerant with all the clichés and tropes that they still use in some of the BL today. Sometimes, when it's well done, I accept them, but in this one, I can't...
I am in a very similar predicament! I‘m 4 episodes in and I really REALLY dislike Charlie (and imo Charlie’s…
I'm also glad to have found someone with the same taste as me. Sometimes, I wonder if I'm not too old for this type of shows... Maybe if I was younger I would've liked them but now, I've matured enough not to like dumb characters with innocent looks who only knows how to whine to get what they want... I don't know who is Jeff but I'll see if I like the second couple better. It was the case for LITA so... I'll see (if I have the courage to continue the series, of course!).
Is he attracted to his looks maybe? Have u watched LINA before? I just wanted to know if they're like PayuxRain…
In that case, I don't know why... I don't like judging actors by their looks but the guy is not great looking and he has no charms at all (just my opinion, of course). I've had the displeasure to watch LINA before and the premise looks the same. So if you like PayuxRain, you're probably gonna like this one. I personnally hated this ship.
I am in a very similar predicament! I‘m 4 episodes in and I really REALLY dislike Charlie (and imo Charlie’s…
Oh, my God, THANK YOU!!! But you're scaring me because if you've already watched 4 episodes and still think that way, I don't think I will be able to continue watching... It's very true that Babe's feelings make no freaking sense. The guy is supposed to use people to his advantage and just because the guy smells good (which is also a very weird approach...), he accepts to let him use his cars... Also, I forgot to write it in my first comment but I really dislike the s*x scenes right from the first episode... I didn't even have the time to get attached to the characters that I have to see them f**k (and I don't even like one of the guy). I'm not a prude but s*x scenes should have a purpose. Here, they are used just to please a certain audience... Anyway, I would even rate Charlie a 0 for now. He's not doing it for me.
I've just finished the first episode and, based on the rating, I thought I was gonna like this series but it is the complete opposite... First episode and I'm already rolling my eyes every time Chalie is on screen. I really hope he evolves throughout the series because he's a really detestable character. I hate his type of character: looking innocent, naive and dumb. I'm sorry but who asks to rent a racing car to a guy that they never met before expecting he's going to accept? I know it's probably an excuse but still, it's dumb and I hate those kind of settings for the two main leads to meet... Also, Babe is already acting like he loves this guy when he doesn't even know him! I mean, he shouldn't care that Winner takes him if he loses the bet! (even though, you shouldn't bet a person but that's another story...) So, I already dislike the main couple, which is not a good thing if I want to continue watching, so... should I continue?... I like Pavel and I'm happy to see Nut again. There's also Pon that I liked a lot in Make a Wish so I'll probably continue for them but I'll probably not gonna like this series... I should probably watch Sign instead (hopefully the rating is not lying on this one!).
I'm usually not a fan of teacher/student relationships but this one was cute and funny. Yes, it wasn't perfect (especially towards the end) but I really liked watching it and I would still recommend it.
My take on that is that they are referring to him getting to the point of thinking that Day can't be safe without…
I agree. I felt that Mhok was more in need of Day than Day himself. Just because he didn't want to lose him as he lost his sister. But I can understand a bit more Day's point of view now.
Day didn't want anyone to pity him as a disabled person. He wanted people to treat him as normal and not strange…
It's true that he became a bit overprotective. But I've never seen that as pity but love. But now that I've read your comments and reflected on it, I can see the pity they were refering to.
I think that they are equating pity with not treating Day as a sighted person. If Day could see, Mhok would have…
Do you think he would've? I think he would've still refused the job but after reading all your comments, I understand a bit more Day's point of view. I still think Mhok did all of that not out of pity but for himself. I feel like Mhok's life revolved around Day and he was the one who needed Day the most.
they don't say it bluntly so i will: mhok's lying was rooted in ableism. and that was what day couldn't forgive,…
I see... But I feel that Mhok wouldn't have accepted the job even if Day was sighted. To me, his only mistake was not to tell Day about the job offer but I see what you mean and I can see it now when remembering about Mhok's actions.
Absolutely love the series but can someone help me understand what was Mhok's mistake that they were all taking about? Because, apart from lying about him getting the job just because he didn't want to leave Day behind (because he was in love with him and not because he pitied him), I don't understand the "mistake" they keep refering to...
I actually liked the last episode (especially P'Aof's cameo haha). And this was by no means a short episode but…
I 100% agree with you. The scene at the airport was great but it would have been even better if Mhok really took his flight. I was kind of expecting him to go back to the US, resigned from his job and return to Thailand. Because he didn't take his flight but what about his job in the US? We had no explanation about that. Also, as you said, it would have been better for Day to gain his vision back little by little. A quick search on the Internet helped me find out that it can take months after a cornea transplant for the vision to improve so it is really unlikely that Day can immediately see his relatives just after the surgery. Also, we don't know much about how Mhok got the job at Day's mum's restaurant and Day's life as a whole. Did he keep in touch with Aon? What about his shop? A lot was missing. Or maybe, I got too attached to the story and the characters that I wanted to see more, I don't know...
I absolutely loved this episode. It was Tay's episode all the way. I think this is the first time that I see him cry in a series (I can't remember another series in which he cries...) and he was so good!! I also loved that it is the only episode in which we don't hear anyone's mind voices. We didn't hear anything when Min hugged Jinta and the same goes for Karan hugging Achi (even Achi noticed it). That was a nice touch, I think.
And you talking about the little boy reminded me something that I totally forgot to mention in my comment while I was so shocked to see that in the series: none of the boys cared about the kids... They are supposed to interrupt Tony's fake charity auction to save the children but when Alan came to save Jeff, they left without the kids!!!! Jeff wanted to bring them with them but Alan refused!!!! And when Charlie suddenly appear to save Babe, he wants him to run away before Babe refused!!!! That was so egotistical that it was hilarious and it reminded me of them leaving Kim behind when they came to save him. I mean we don't know what happens to the kids that were supposed to be sold and I'm pretty sure that the ones already sold are still under the ownership of the billionaires at this point. That's hilarious and at the same time very disappointing the little care they have for those poor children...
And I'm glad I'm not crazy for thinking there was something going on between Way and Pete. But then, they showed us that kiss which was - as you said - totally random to go back in the present day and not only kill Way in a stupid way (so no Pete/Way for sure) but also totally ignoring Pete and Kenta at the end (so no Pete/Kenta too). I don't understand anything about what they tried to do with them...
I'm really disappointed that these kind of shows are still very much liked because people will continue making them and we will continue being fooled by the ratings. I mean, shows need to be different to please a large part of the audience but at least, even if Love In the Air was very bad - and I still don't understand the hype for Payu and Rain's ship -, the second couple was more interesting to watch. Here, none of the couples and characters were interesting, the story was all over the place and there was absolutely no chemistry at all between the two main leads.
I've rated it a 2 only because of Pavel and Nut's chemistry. They should've been the end game.
For Way's part, you're absolutely right. Him being the Enigma is weird. Especially because, as you mentioned, he wasted so much time and there are no freaking reasons why Tony did nothing to him all these years when he easily slaps Kenta for the slightest mistake. But the story is so all over the place that I'm not even surprised now...
You'll be happy because, yes, the third couple that I mentioned was Pete and Kenta. But you'll also be disappointed because the only thing we see of them is just a kiss. Nothing more happen between them. I don't even know if the writers wanted us to ship Pete with Way or with Kenta because I felt that there was a weird connection between Pete and Way but then, they showed Pete and Kenta kissing so I was very confused. But I'm not going to spoil more, I don't want to ruin all the fun of discovering this mess 😆
And I was wondering exactly the same about Alan! I'm as confused as you concerning his age because him being refered as "uncle" makes no sense. To me, he's no more than in his early 30s so why are they calling him "uncle" when most of them are in their late 20s... But it's not the only thing that doesn't make sense in this show...
I'm on episode 11 now, so I'm not going to spoil but I agree with you on the plot not making a lot of sense. I just want to correct you on the fact that Tony didn't send Charlie to Babe but Charlie did it on his own (for whatever reasons). Tony was even mad at Kenta for not knowing that before. But I agree that Charlie should have been an Enigma. I would even improve the story by making Tony sending Charlie flirting with Babe and they SLOWLY (because they don't know that word) fall in love with each other. And then, Babe discovers the truth and so on... It would have probably been a thousand times better if it happened like this...
Anyway, it seems that there's a third couple (or fourth if you count North and Sonic) and I couldn't care less... The only thing I'm caring about is that I still have 2 episodes to watch and I'm free!!! To be honest, episode 10 and 11 are quite easy to watch because we don't see Charlie much (that was a relief!) and even Babe in episode 11. But they are compensating with Alan and Jeff... At least, they are more likable that the former couple.
And I made a mistake in my previous comment with Kim's name. I called him Win 😅 I care so less about the characters that I can't even remember their names properly 🤣
I've just finished episode 8 and I'm not giving up but I'm skipping all the kisses and s*x scenes from Babe and Charlie for now. I can't see them together anymore...
I understand the feeling you have towards the characters, I feel the same. I don't feel invested in any of the characters from this series. And that's a shame because there are good actors in there, they are just not in the right series... And I was even saying to myself when watching those episodes that if Babe and Way would have ended up together instead of Charlie, it would have been much better! Because, I don't know if you agree with me or not, but Pavel and Nut have so much chemistry compared with Pooh, that it's a shame they didn't use that to their advantage to make a good show (I know it's based from a book, but why not improve the source material!).
I'm really lost with the terms Alpha and Enigma (they didn't even dare to explain to us what it was exactly). I feel that Enigma is Way but that would make things even weirder... Because Charlie explained to Babe that Tony wants to force Babe and Enigma to have a child for him to own a sort of superhero but... are they living in another universe where two men can conceive?... Because if not, that's not possible for obvious reasons...
Anyway, the end of episode 8 was so comical that I thought I was watching a comedy. Sonic and North followed Winner to save Win and, at the end, they left him alone with Winner. That was hilarious!!
And I understand your feelings for the second couple now that they introduced Jeff, I don't feel them either... I don't really mind Jeff but I feel like Alan is a bit too intrusive when Jeff clearly specified that he doesn't like being touched. But at least, I'm okay watching their scenes compared to Babe and Charlie's.
Also, is it me or the series turned a bit into sci-fi?... It became X-Men all of a sudden with children having powers and a weird guy using them for a unknown purpose... I don't know where they're going with that but it doesn't fit the genre of the series...
Let's go watch episode 4! (And I've seen that you've already on episode 8! Is it any better?)
My taste has also definitely changed. I know that if I were to rewatch some shows that I loved in the past nowadays, I would probably not like them as much or at all. But, unlike you, I've become less tolerant with all the clichés and tropes that they still use in some of the BL today. Sometimes, when it's well done, I accept them, but in this one, I can't...
I don't know who is Jeff but I'll see if I like the second couple better. It was the case for LITA so... I'll see (if I have the courage to continue the series, of course!).
I've had the displeasure to watch LINA before and the premise looks the same. So if you like PayuxRain, you're probably gonna like this one. I personnally hated this ship.
It's very true that Babe's feelings make no freaking sense. The guy is supposed to use people to his advantage and just because the guy smells good (which is also a very weird approach...), he accepts to let him use his cars...
Also, I forgot to write it in my first comment but I really dislike the s*x scenes right from the first episode... I didn't even have the time to get attached to the characters that I have to see them f**k (and I don't even like one of the guy). I'm not a prude but s*x scenes should have a purpose. Here, they are used just to please a certain audience...
Anyway, I would even rate Charlie a 0 for now. He's not doing it for me.