can someone explain to me who did chen yanyun's brother kill?
Chen YanYun's brother(can't remember his number rank) killed their 5th brother when they were children. Chen XuanQing was adopted into the the Chen family under the 5th branch(as the 5th brother's son) because he was never married and had no heirs.
This was to help repay XuanQing's birth father for saving his life(or his father's life, so sorry can't remember and i didn't write it down). The bio father comited treason, and the mother killed herself after...I believe it was considered more of a sacrifice as her son would be looked after only if she was taken out of the picture completely. Aka he could be adopted without the stain of his birth family following him. I might have read too much into her death tbh.
There are only a few people who know of Chen Xuan Qing's true origin. One of those people is the father of the girl his grandmother wants him to marry. That man has enough power in the court to shield his daughter and son-in-law if his birth origins were to be exposed. But if he were to marry, say a granddaughter of a merchant, both he and his wife would be in danger if his parentage was ever exposed. The girl actually likes Xuan Qing, and her father is aware of this.
After learning everything about Ye Xian's Master...it makes me wonder. Could he have been lying about Ye Xian's illness this whole time and actually making the Marquis's son sickly on purpose as revenge for his true Lord(the prince)? It just seems like a convenient way to stay within the Marquis' household. The young lord is ill and sickly in nature, it's best to have a doctor within the house hold and there to take care of him. When really he's been giving him things that harm his heart and overall health. Seems like since his death Ye Xian hasn't exhibited any health issues. I know we haven't really seen him much, but he seems full of murderous vigor.
The irony of him being behind most of Ye Xian's hidden weapons only for that to be the thing that takes both him and his Lord down in the end.
Ironic again that Ye Xian is seeking more and more power so that he can protect and marry Gu JinZhao, only to paint himself into a corner because that just means larger household aka more wives/concubines. At least Chen YanYun is aware of this misgiving when it comes to JinZhao's hesitance to even THINK of marriage. I'm hoping that he will just tease her and not actually take any steps to appease his mentor and marry someone of his approval. I'm really curious to see how they do this as in the novel, though his wife is dead, he had concubines and multiple children that she had to navigate after marriage. (i didn't read the novel, but this had been brought up in previous discussions)
I just dearly hope the writer doesn't expect us to show mercy or understanding for the QM just cause she had a…
Imo it looks as though her husband(the king) set the fire himself after sending the edict and robes to his brother. Or with the doors blocked by him and a fire starting(not his doing) he might have just accepted his fate without trying to escape. The fact she treated the same thing to her own son in the exact situation is blood chilling. The fact she continues to burry her head in the sand about everything makes me feel she has yet to full learn her lesson. I want to know who she hid. Her late husband's lover, the servant who poisoned the wedding goblet, a yet unknown woman who holds a royal secret?
are we supposed to believe that a democratically elected young and successful PM, and the son of a past PM is…
I was hoping that he was just working with QM's father to get the poison out of the court as a double agent, and that I-An was never in danger. Then I saw the preview...and unless it's a nightmare of HuiJoo's, I-An is in fact in the explosion/fire. So the double agent situation is looking less and less likely. I just cant understand though. If he wants power, he has it, it's never been threatened. If he wanted HuiJoo, he had her...for a decade, and never made a move. If he still wanted her, killing the man she loves and making her a royal widow, isnt going to help him get her. I know reasoning with crazy is pointless, but it just seems left field levels of writing. Maybe showing more jealousy of I-An in their school days, or dislike of the royal family as an institution would have helped develop this plot point better. Like if he secretly hated the monarchy, this "twist" would be more understandable. But with his friendship with I-An being established & his jealousy only showing when I-An shows interest in HuiJoo both in school and adulthood...idk. I'm hoping the writing/editing makes more sense once all the episodes have released.
this concubine and her daughter are getting on my nerves. I expected a better path for the daughter. but here…
Based on trailers I've seen it goes very badly before JinZhao is able to truly fight back gloves off against all the wrongs done to her and her mother. I'm pretty sure that the Gu family is about to have holy retribution rain down on them so hard....considering who the Ji's(Gu JinZhao is included in the Ji family imo) have in their corner, the second JinZhao's mother is no longer on the board(needing to be protected) all the men(and women) will be going after that ungrateful daughter and concubine...the father will be lucky to come out the other side with a penny to his name. Bother is still a wildcard to see if he grew any kind of backbone or conscious.
in the drama though it is possible that, for sake of the romntic angle, chen yan yun is not even married....could…
the way the marriage conversation was translated made me think he was previously married. and in the drama has CXQ as his adopted nephew of his dead 5th brother.
(As of episode 9)Ye Xian is not only much more immature compared to the others he cant read the gesture of others like Chen Yan Yun and Gu Jin Zhao can. While they can read multiple ways to interpret a gesture or political move Ye Xian just assumes and is 9 out of 10 times wrong with his assessment and then doubles down on it. Ji Yao and Chen Xuan Qing are careful to never overstep and put JinZhao in a compromising position that could harm her reputation. They respect her as a person and dont just think of her like a plaything. Chen Yan Yun hasn't really started making decisive moves toward her(as in forming a romantic relationship) yet, but he enjoys her mind and admires her beauty. He's saved her 3 times and been discrete about every rescue, again knowing her reputation could be injuried or a target put on her. Ye Xian causes a scene everywhere he goes expecting her to fall in line and all over herself to please him. He needs to wake up.
so quick question for the novel readers. Were Chen Yan Yun & Chen Xuan Qing father and son in the novel? I heard they changed a lot and lowered Chen Yan Yun's age a bit because he had an adult son who was also pursuing Gu JinZhao.
because he hasn't gotten a full on screen send off with flashback I figure he's still alive. and also how the smoky girl reacted to his name...makes me think he's still "alive"
he is probably also a war demon like LQQ. The play hinted at them being the same age. but he might also just be old like the dude with all the evil sons. might have been a human he grew up with that then became a cultivator.
In episode 23 all I keep thinking is...ummm...they can fly...like both of them are capable of literal flight...falling over a cliff will not kill them...because they can freaking fly. I know about the poisonous things at the bottom, but did I miss something about the air different too?
So far so good. Great chemistry with the whole cast. I'm enjoying the cryptic double speech that they use in different ways. The political double speak and social double speak are great. The social side very much reminds me of Southern politeness...it may sound sweet and innocent, but there are daggers behind every word and smile. The way Chen Yan Yun spoke to his friend knowing they were being spied on by others...very well performed. Translations are WAY better on Tencent than they are on iQIYI as iQIYI didn't even bother to translate the name titles or the full sentences being spoken. So if you have access to both, WeTV/Tencent is the better option. I haven't checked Viki's translations yet.
The styling from my minimally Eastern fashion history point of view is great. She moves very naturally in them and does a good job depicting that her character is still a teenager. Gu Jin Chao may be spoiled and not very nice, but she is kind. Though she seems impulsive on the surface she is extremely calculating. Loved the little nod to her intellectual mind when her grandmother swatted her had away from the abacus.
I'm interested to see how she navigates the more complicated capital now that she has come of age and has stepped into a political upheaval on accident. Her willingness to kill or be killed yet still mourn the death of an innocent pawn shows me her emotions run much deeper than she lets outsiders see. So once Chan Yan Yun and Gu Jin Chao officially team up with mutual love and respect it's going to be interesting to see them with their walls down and armor off.
Gu Jin Chao has enough self preservation and self defense skills without it bleeding into unrealistic...so far. (we have been burned before...i don't need a FL to be an assassin for her to be "strong", but I love a female lead who doesn't mind getting her hands dirty when necessary.
To end this extra long comment, it's honestly just nice to watch a drama where, though the characters have an age gap, the actors' age gap is much smaller....aka I'm not going to get the ick because acting childish, and being an actual child are two different things. (and yes this is shade, interpret this how you will😉.)
Do we know or find out why Lord Chen was sneaking around with the lantern in episode 1 when she set th fire? Was…
He was on his way to meet with her grandmother. He was living in the estate as the grandmother works for him. So he was also potentially patrolling for assassins as there was already a target on the Ji family at that point in his plan for implementing the tax. He wasn't so much being shady as he was just being lowkey because people are trying to kill him to stop the tax plan from going through.
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This was to help repay XuanQing's birth father for saving his life(or his father's life, so sorry can't remember and i didn't write it down). The bio father comited treason, and the mother killed herself after...I believe it was considered more of a sacrifice as her son would be looked after only if she was taken out of the picture completely. Aka he could be adopted without the stain of his birth family following him. I might have read too much into her death tbh.
There are only a few people who know of Chen Xuan Qing's true origin. One of those people is the father of the girl his grandmother wants him to marry. That man has enough power in the court to shield his daughter and son-in-law if his birth origins were to be exposed. But if he were to marry, say a granddaughter of a merchant, both he and his wife would be in danger if his parentage was ever exposed. The girl actually likes Xuan Qing, and her father is aware of this.
The irony of him being behind most of Ye Xian's hidden weapons only for that to be the thing that takes both him and his Lord down in the end.
Ironic again that Ye Xian is seeking more and more power so that he can protect and marry Gu JinZhao, only to paint himself into a corner because that just means larger household aka more wives/concubines. At least Chen YanYun is aware of this misgiving when it comes to JinZhao's hesitance to even THINK of marriage. I'm hoping that he will just tease her and not actually take any steps to appease his mentor and marry someone of his approval. I'm really curious to see how they do this as in the novel, though his wife is dead, he had concubines and multiple children that she had to navigate after marriage. (i didn't read the novel, but this had been brought up in previous discussions)
The fact she treated the same thing to her own son in the exact situation is blood chilling. The fact she continues to burry her head in the sand about everything makes me feel she has yet to full learn her lesson.
I want to know who she hid. Her late husband's lover, the servant who poisoned the wedding goblet, a yet unknown woman who holds a royal secret?
I just cant understand though. If he wants power, he has it, it's never been threatened. If he wanted HuiJoo, he had her...for a decade, and never made a move. If he still wanted her, killing the man she loves and making her a royal widow, isnt going to help him get her. I know reasoning with crazy is pointless, but it just seems left field levels of writing. Maybe showing more jealousy of I-An in their school days, or dislike of the royal family as an institution would have helped develop this plot point better. Like if he secretly hated the monarchy, this "twist" would be more understandable. But with his friendship with I-An being established & his jealousy only showing when I-An shows interest in HuiJoo both in school and adulthood...idk.
I'm hoping the writing/editing makes more sense once all the episodes have released.
Chen Yan Yun hasn't really started making decisive moves toward her(as in forming a romantic relationship) yet, but he enjoys her mind and admires her beauty. He's saved her 3 times and been discrete about every rescue, again knowing her reputation could be injuried or a target put on her. Ye Xian causes a scene everywhere he goes expecting her to fall in line and all over herself to please him. He needs to wake up.
Translations are WAY better on Tencent than they are on iQIYI as iQIYI didn't even bother to translate the name titles or the full sentences being spoken. So if you have access to both, WeTV/Tencent is the better option. I haven't checked Viki's translations yet.
The styling from my minimally Eastern fashion history point of view is great. She moves very naturally in them and does a good job depicting that her character is still a teenager.
Gu Jin Chao may be spoiled and not very nice, but she is kind. Though she seems impulsive on the surface she is extremely calculating. Loved the little nod to her intellectual mind when her grandmother swatted her had away from the abacus.
I'm interested to see how she navigates the more complicated capital now that she has come of age and has stepped into a political upheaval on accident. Her willingness to kill or be killed yet still mourn the death of an innocent pawn shows me her emotions run much deeper than she lets outsiders see. So once Chan Yan Yun and Gu Jin Chao officially team up with mutual love and respect it's going to be interesting to see them with their walls down and armor off.
Gu Jin Chao has enough self preservation and self defense skills without it bleeding into unrealistic...so far. (we have been burned before...i don't need a FL to be an assassin for her to be "strong", but I love a female lead who doesn't mind getting her hands dirty when necessary.
To end this extra long comment, it's honestly just nice to watch a drama where, though the characters have an age gap, the actors' age gap is much smaller....aka I'm not going to get the ick because acting childish, and being an actual child are two different things. (and yes this is shade, interpret this how you will😉.)
He wasn't so much being shady as he was just being lowkey because people are trying to kill him to stop the tax plan from going through.