I am glad that overall you enjoyed the series. I only would like to say that I am an avid viewer of all kind of…
Thank you so much for such enlightening and well informed comment. I think some of us have had a "side job" of some sort in the art "scene" or even we can call ourselves e.g. part-time musician (ππ»ββοΈ) . As unknown as I have been, I have always been paid for presentations. I totally appreciate your both side of the arguments referrring to AI. However, there is a lot of good on it. Recently, I know about a composer in Mexico, he was so poor that he did not have any money to hire even half an hour of a recording studio or hire musicians, so he taught himself producing a song using AI, even the voices were AI generated. He wrote the melody, the lyrics that were beautiful and his song is now well known. Now, he has the chance to go to the studios and ask for support, before it was impossible. The same happen when social media platforms appeared. Everybody looking down in people earning money from it. Where would be Justin Bieber or Shawn Mendes without YouTube? they were unknown kids in Canada. Kill to Love is just showing that they could bridge the gap of the lack of money with one minute (or even less) of CGI (I am not even sure if they use AI in the strict sense). In terms of extras, my partner was "pulled from the street" by a company recording a promotional video, and was paid more than his job daily rate for a couple of hours of work!? π
I am glad that overall you enjoyed the series. I only would like to say that I am an avid viewer of all kind of…
Thank you for your support @River. It means a lot. Totally agree, the series is not perfect, precisely for the lack of money, and yes, it is not easy to keep calm with some comments...π β€οΈ
I am glad that overall you enjoyed the series. I only would like to say that I am an avid viewer of all kind of…
So kind of you @Yerisina, this is why you are the most valued commentator here in the forum πβ€οΈ We do feel so strongly about people unfairly bashing on this beautiful series, such a labour of love. Everybody involved hardly has any economic reward from it. Director, camera people, screen writers and of course the actors, so talented. Let's keep having fun talking about what really matters.
I am glad that overall you enjoyed the series. I only would like to say that I am an avid viewer of all kind of…
Something that I meant to ask you and I only took your work for granted is how do you know that the images that we see when ZiAng is taking territories are AI generated? I was left with this doubt so I looked at it and there is a difference between AI and CGI and Visual effects that have been used for more than 50 years already. In Chinese productions is mainly CGI that is used. AI is a vast subject and create a visceral reaction from people who are against it. The central debate with AI is that the ideas are not copyrightable only the expression of the ideas, in this sense, does not infringe intellectual property. The other issue is environmental damage, but it has been proved this only happen in large high performance models and only if they are taking energy from fossil fuels. I do acknowledge there is a polarisation of opinions in this subject and if you feel strongly about it, you are in the right to do so. What I am going to put my foot in the door is about that what you described is considered exploitation. Asking people to work for free is considered exploitation, that simple. I am not inventing anything here. It is against the Human Rights Declaration and very much against π¨π³ 1. Labour Law of the Peopleβs Republic of China. Volunteering only could happen if the organisation is registered as a charity and even though stipends should be paid as minimum.
I am glad that overall you enjoyed the series. I only would like to say that I am an avid viewer of all kind of…
Chinese labour laws are really strict. Your position is to be against AI, but you agree to people working for free? So: no to AI, but yes to exploitation? I don't want to give away what I do, I am in an educational institution. Everything that we do is AI supported. As @Yerisina wrote AI is a tool, is based in acquired human knowledge and is activated by human input. The creativity is in the design. in the questions. In relation to composers, AI is a strong tool to avoid plagiarism. It can suggest a couple of notes to change a written melody to avoid that problem. Returning to Kill to Love, some of the wardrobe was borrowed from their performing academies. They not even had budget for this, and in China clothing is really cheap.
I would argue that 6 is a criminally low rating for this masterpiece, but to each their own. The characters are…
So glad you came forward DreamHi. Somebody needed to say it as it is.π I just don't understand some negative posts...honestly.....as you say each to their own π
Let me tell y'all I have watched/read lot of sad and traumatizing stories but this is the 1st one that made me…
If it is of any consolation, we have cried waterfall of tears in this forum, but they are good tears. So glad you liked the series as much as we do. Maybe you could consider rating each episode with a 10 to counteract the random negative "visitors" that from time to time appear, and, at least keep the rating as it is. This series deserves much more recognition. Many thanks π
The story is good, I love wuxia bl! The only complaint I have is the usage of ai generated video clips, was it…
I am glad that overall you enjoyed the series. I only would like to say that I am an avid viewer of all kind of c dramas, and all of them are heavy in the AI. This is a low-budget production and the AI only appears when ZiAng is invading territories. So I genuinely do not understand your objection to the use of AI here, when all Chinese productions, including and I would say, above all, the top-tier productions use them extensively.
Kill to Love where to watch, official channels, supporting XuJin- Lately, in MDL forums, we have seen more and more people gingerly promoting pirates websites -wrong in all accounts. There are also people that just come an spit the most random negative comments and one wonder, did they even watch the series? With some comments you can start a constructive conversation, with others it is not even worthy to try... π In relation to Kill to love, I would like to remind everybody that the first 6 episodes are free to watch in the official YouTube channel and then the other 6 costs less than a cup of coffee and it is only a matter of paying one month and cancel the sub. You won't be charge again. I can guarantee you this. Kill to Love is an excellent series, with mesmerising performances. It was a really small project with young graduates from the best performing academies in China. They did an amazing job with a very low budget. They only could filmed 12 episodes this is why in the first episodes the narrative is not easy to follow. We have this lovely clip of XuJin in full attired cuddling to each other studying their lines while there was a dispute of money with the police involved. https://weibo.com/6715744133/Q7qrBkcCc It is also very important to follow all the official accounts of the actors. ZheXu and MiJin have given us so much joy. I have lost count of how many vblogs they have filmed. They are very giving to each other and to the audience. Mi Jin is signed to Huayu Films, a very prestigious production company in China, and slightly slightly is getting better roles, but still very much supporting roles. ZheXu is struggling to find any acting job in this very competitive market. We have recently knew that he was dropped in the last minute (literally) from a lead role in a production. Actors jobs is hard everywhere but particularly in China with so many excellent graduates and where nepotism and influence are also an issue . So they are really relying on the support of their followers who are almost in the totality shippers (Lagogos) for earning a living. They have had brand presentations, managers day jobs and fan meetings. You can find a lot of post in X. So please follow them I will add their RedNotes and Weibo accounts too:
You can watch it legally! from the official website. The first 6 eps are free and then is 2.50 for the other six. Hardly the cost of a cup of coffee. A lots of us in this forum have watched in this way. This is a small production company with very low margin of profit, if they have any. The link is here: https://youtu.be/P12OjrBkjtw?si=bM32G-EGUtdXiAei I wish people don't promote pirates websites in MDL!! if people need to watch something there for whatever reason, please at least be discreet about it and not share it here!!!
OMYGAD! I just started watching this and I finished it todayβidk why I did not like the first ep the first time…
Many thanks for your post and you raise valid points that most of us would agree with. See discussions above for "deep dives". Only to point out that this is a Chinese production registered in Singapore to bypass censorship. If you are interested, maybe you would like to read my post just previous to yours describing the BL situation in China.
A lot of potential gone to waste. Unprofessional writing coupled with poor directing. I'm unimpressed.
I am so relieved most people have better sense and taste than you and have rated this with fairness. How many episodes did you watch? It appears you dropped it.
https://x.com/meihanxues/status/2011097708401181107?s=20
Edits that call attention to the first episodes where the bath scene and the most sensual hand wash happen:
https://x.com/wizcrizzz/status/2009266219438805376?s=20
https://x.com/meihanxues/status/1994084863960592388?s=20
ZiAng rage has inspired few of these edits
https://x.com/JEONALTY/status/2003050464259219789?s=20
who likes the ones mixing ShuHe /ZiAng and XuJin? This is so lovely
https://x.com/meihanxues/status/2002703558102356392?s=20
based on the confession scenes, of course lots:
https://x.com/vegasbibs85/status/2001174621572472937?s=20
This is one of my favourites:
https://youtu.be/T8I0DE2oPWQ?si=AWoz7ILV9DQ0wGiz
All kisses:
https://www.tiktok.com/@minoa38/video/7585068478151822612?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc
Hiroro fan art in Red Note, is magical:
http://xhslink.com/o/6ljtZDo7QCY
https://x.com/januarystyle/status/2011803372324864226?s=20
Red Note edits
http://xhslink.com/o/7AivWxuyLkn
(re-watching all of these has really cheer me up!!!)
This is @Yerisina collection (I have not watched some of these - thank you so much π):
https://youtu.be/XCRqzZqFjp4?si=aXpI9hmWYTgVeLPr
https://youtu.be/Qimfr7ySMxI?si=sx9xJhSFOzkwR9jN
https://youtu.be/T8I0DE2oPWQ?si=XCs21NmjiF8vRdY6
https://youtu.be/F4WiT98Pnwo?si=SDZ8fCmjRxeLbK0S
Lately, in MDL forums, we have seen more and more people gingerly promoting pirates websites -wrong in all accounts. There are also people that just come an spit the most random negative comments and one wonder, did they even watch the series? With some comments you can start a constructive conversation, with others it is not even worthy to try... π
In relation to Kill to love, I would like to remind everybody that the first 6 episodes are free to watch in the official YouTube channel and then the other 6 costs less than a cup of coffee and it is only a matter of paying one month and cancel the sub. You won't be charge again. I can guarantee you this.
Kill to Love is an excellent series, with mesmerising performances. It was a really small project with young graduates from the best performing academies in China. They did an amazing job with a very low budget. They only could filmed 12 episodes this is why in the first episodes the narrative is not easy to follow. We have this lovely clip of XuJin in full attired cuddling to each other studying their lines while there was a dispute of money with the police involved.
https://weibo.com/6715744133/Q7qrBkcCc
It is also very important to follow all the official accounts of the actors. ZheXu and MiJin have given us so much joy. I have lost count of how many vblogs they have filmed. They are very giving to each other and to the audience.
Mi Jin is signed to Huayu Films, a very prestigious production company in China, and slightly slightly is getting better roles, but still very much supporting roles. ZheXu is struggling to find any acting job in this very competitive market. We have recently knew that he was dropped in the last minute (literally) from a lead role in a production. Actors jobs is hard everywhere but particularly in China with so many excellent graduates and where nepotism and influence are also an issue . So they are really relying on the support of their followers who are almost in the totality shippers (Lagogos) for earning a living. They have had brand presentations, managers day jobs and fan meetings. You can find a lot of post in X. So please follow them I will add their RedNotes and Weibo accounts too:
ZheXu and MiJin Instagram, RedNote, Weibo accounts
https://www.instagram.com/adrian.xxuu?igsh=MXRqbTJudWd0dGUzMA==
https://xhslink.com/m/509tk9EtfAd
https://weibo.com/u/1872760363
https://www.instagram.com/mijin_0416?igsh=MmVnMXZ4OG10NTNy
https://xhslink.com/m/4jUSxZhlt0U
https://weibo.com/u/5651648571
National Drama League - official YouTube channel to watch the series
https://youtu.be/P12OjrBkjtw?si=bM32G-EGUtdXiAei
Kill to Love in Instagram and YouTube (vblogs)
https://www.instagram.com/killtolove_video?igsh=MThidmd2M3l5amhwYg==
https://youtu.be/1nsMTgdC5Ow?si=cUMNJbFuzZhJSoa1
The Weibo account for the doctor, Li Yixian, he was also the screenwriter:
@ζδΈζ³η±εε€Ίε€Ίη²'s personal homepage - Weibo
https://youtu.be/P12OjrBkjtw?si=bM32G-EGUtdXiAei
I wish people don't promote pirates websites in MDL!! if people need to watch something there for whatever reason, please at least be discreet about it and not share it here!!!