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On The Rise of Ning Oct 27, 2024
Title The Rise of Ning Spoiler
I’ve skipped the second leads so much that I am left wondering why “the Lin family harbours resentment towards Yixiu” and are opposed of the marriage? Is it because the mom is a murderer ?
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Replying to holm Oct 27, 2024
I am thinking 2 cliche things will probably be done at the end of the drama:(1)lsy'father redemption. (2)psycho…
They always redeem the dads, just look at the dad in the story of minglan and the one in the princess weiyoung. Got away with everything scot-free
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Replying to BaekhyunoonaID Oct 26, 2024
Title The Rise of Ning Spoiler
Yes, it was real. He tore it because the reality just hit him hard since he did sign it but his mother took it…
Thanks for the explanation. I can’t stand the dad so much!! argh
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Replying to themarchioness Oct 26, 2024
This was my takeaway understanding: Dad wrote the divorce letter, but his mother (grandmother) took it away because…
I like your takeaway - totally agree. Thanks for the explanation.
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On The Rise of Ning Oct 26, 2024
Title The Rise of Ning Spoiler
I may have missed something. Was the divorce letter real? Why did the spineless dad shred it to pieces?
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Replying to tofuscramble Oct 26, 2024
"national park forest" - love your analogy here - so true. While I'm not a sadist, I do love a very morally grey…
I think the last drama with a consistently grey ml character was “Goodbye my princess” which came out in 2019. I couldn’t stand the ml but his performance was so memorable. The ml in Story of Kunning Palace was also a grey character but I was rooting for his happy ending.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Oct 26, 2024
Well he is LSY's father after all so he is still gonna be her father-in-law. And all their kids will be Luos.…
Didn’t he shred that divorce letter into pieces? All I want is at least one jab, shade, reproach at him. I am so frustrated due to NO ONE, I mean, NO ONE on the show calling him out. I feel like entering the screen and be like “remember when you did that, well I’m here to remind you…” lol
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Replying to sakie Oct 25, 2024
I didn't read the novel so no clue how "grey" or what bada*s level MRJH was. However, Cdramas don't want to risk…
Thanks for your input. I think I’ll wait until a drama has aired before reading the source material/ novel, because half the time I am left disappointed with the changes, the drama-ml.
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Replying to Nahlabee4 Oct 25, 2024
Could be the actors and their management because of toxic netizens. The ML for Goodby my princess got depressed…
Yeah, that make sense.
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Replying to LoraWithAnO Oct 25, 2024
I just couldn't believe for a second that the ML would think the FL was attractive in any way.
why not? haven’t started this but thinking of watching it…
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On The Rise of Ning Oct 25, 2024
It took one episode for the “are you my daughter” but it is taking 29+ ep for the “are you my Mei Mei” 🙄
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On Kill Me Love Me Oct 25, 2024
Cdramas have the ability to turn the most 50 shades of grey and red ml characters into complete green forests with the greenest grass. They did it more recently with the mls in “Are you the one” and “The rise of Ning” and to this one too. The ml here was absolutely crazy in the novel so I can understand why they toned him down, but they have turned him into a national park forest.

This is why I like the story of kunning place. The ml was consistently a grey character even if he fell in love with the fl.

I wonder: is it because of censorship that they turn them into green flags with barely any shades of grey? or it it the management company of the actors themselves who want the actors to play the “good guys”? and avoid displeasing fans?

Thoughts?
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Replying to Lalalila Oct 25, 2024
Title The Rise of Ning Spoiler
Did the duke and fl's mother love each other? Just want a yes/no answer
It wasn’t an affair. He was under the influence of the aphrodisiac when he spent the night with her and she was no willing party. He wanted to do the responsible thing but she refused because she was a married woman. She only found out afterwards she was pregnant. She was depressed, in a happy marriage but her morals were intact and the whole incident affected her.
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Replying to Mstique Oct 25, 2024
I wish they have kept that element in the drama. I was so triggered when he told her “take care in the future”…
Right, she owns him no filial piety. lol
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Replying to themarchioness Oct 25, 2024
Title The Rise of Ning Spoiler
It doesn't bother me that dad will eventually get whitewashed... because that's what always happens in the dramas…
I have the same complaints and more against the dad. No one truly called him out on his actions. Even the fl was civil - way too civil - and even called him dad one last time when she was saying her goodbyes. She should not have acknowledged him at all. The same person that beat you, tried to exile you and told you that you would never return to the capital, literally the day before, is not telling you to “take care in the future”. It felt so insincere and false that I was actually annoyed, because they are already trying to redeem him.
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Replying to greenblood_spock Oct 25, 2024
The drama is an alternate universe of the novel. Just have to judge it with what it is on screen.However, YN was…
I wish they have kept that element in the drama. I was so triggered when he told her “take care in the future” because it came from a place of falsehood. No one is calling him out in the novel and they are even making excuses for him (he was “agitated”). Alteast in the novel, he was made to feel guilty.
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Replying to Jiejie Oct 25, 2024
Ep 24, I lost all respect for FL.
Oh yeah? what did she do?
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Oct 25, 2024
Title The Rise of Ning Spoiler
Well he is LSY's father after all so he is still gonna be her father-in-law. And all their kids will be Luos.…
So, because he is LSY’s father, he shouldn’t be called out? The way he reacted upon learning the truth was despicable. The audacity of him to tell the fl to “take care in the future” when the day before he had her beaten and was ready to exile her until he found out she was the duke’s daughter. I am not buying into this fake growth, but then, filial piety is paramount even to undeserving parents.

“He never had any say in his life?” well, he certainly had plenty to say when it came to raising his children and given preferential treatment to concubines over legal wives.
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On The Rise of Ning Oct 25, 2024
Why do the dads almost always get a free pass.

- Minglan’s dad in the Story of Minglan (atleast Minglan called him out a few times)

-Princess Weiyoung’s dad
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