Ep 4 with its Brokeback Mountain vibe...lakeshore, tent and its rolling down zipper, campfire, childish playing around...all In The Mood For Love.
Ep 5 with each protagonist's background stories and Lan's dedication. As I can't stand this cliffhanger, I pause for a day or two.
A date to remember june 28, 1969. No need to be gay to send a harm heart in memory of the June 28th 1969 Stonewall riots in Greenwich village, that started the LGBTQ Civil rights mouvement around the World. There are still battles to win around the World also in our own surroundings a step at the time.
Ye Li was actually the maid (Qing Shuang) who imagined herself as Ye Li coming down the mountain to take revenge.
Correct, not to be glorifyed but an awareness that it does exist. Naming a disorder especially a so insiduous disorder at times under the pretense/associated to of PTSD will help people seek for help. It is newly discovered and is worldwide diagnosed by researchers and professionals in the neuroscience field. This Cdrama is a helping hand in this approach. Ye Li is not crazy. She has suffered an emotional shock and will recover for sure.
Ye Li was actually the maid (Qing Shuang) who imagined herself as Ye Li coming down the mountain to take revenge.
Correct, I have forgotten to mention this scene. She had also multi personality disorder at that scene and I was wondering if the writer wanted to take that path. But for this genre of drama, it would be too complicated to invest viewers time. When mentioning this disorder in one of my comment, there were two viewers arguing on my finding, then later gave up as they had no medical proof (except for an AI dictionary).
Ye Li was actually the maid (Qing Shuang) who imagined herself as Ye Li coming down the mountain to take revenge.
I had thought of an imaginary friend and even mentioned that many people have imaginary friend(s) in early age. Instead of a doll or teddy bear some people have imaginary friend(s). Related to this story, later I believed that her trauma was due to PTSD. Then moral injury or moral guilt was the closest symptom related to her illusionary comfort zone. Should you have time to look at the begining of episode 31 every thing is clearer.
He is my absolute #1 but I have a real disdain for her since her poor acting skills in a lot of previous works…
I feel you in regards to her past work. I had to ignore many Cdramas by depriving myself with good male co-stars. Give it a try for at least the first 3 episodes. You'll have a blast.
Now I am here for Wang Chu Ran although (and I am honest) I wasn't interested in her past roles neither her acting...at all. Suprisingly, she kept me sitting and laughing and craving for more of her screen time. She is well directed and this role suits her perfectly.
So, for newcomers, don't take any notice of the thumb down whatever youtuber is giving to this Cdrama. Stick to the story for the laugh, the micro exprexions, the comedy, the repartee, the fun fireworks to finish or start your day. Enjoy...enjoy !
honestly, I now have a different kind of love for this drama!!! for a lot of ppl it’s just a drama, plot/storyline.…
I empathize with you, really. I am proud of you for reaching out for help. This is the best gift you've offered yourself.
I acknowledge that this story is describing trauma at different levels. Be it PTSD, moral injury also called moral guilt in the case of this Cdrama. My comment was critized by 2 commenters some days ago. One of them later on used my view point in his/her own wordings - people's ego is so deep. Yes a trauma or traumas have layers that neuroscience are discovering these last decades.
Every human being, including me, has a trauma or traumas according to their will to acknowledge the reason of their trauma(s). Even population living in democratic countries or no war zone states have trauma(s). Unfortunately, rare are the people that take the first step to face it and reach out for help. Because they bury it due to pride, shame, fear and most of the time because of ignorance. Once the trauma is named, life is more optimistic. I had to document myself on this subject not only for my work but to be at peace with myself.
Ye Li was actually the maid (Qing Shuang) who imagined herself as Ye Li coming down the mountain to take revenge.
At the very begining I had thought that Ye Li was Qing Shuang until that relevant episode. That's for sure, Qing Shuang was Ye Li's maid. QS died at the mountain from the epidemic. At episode 31 we could witness Ye Li speak to her young herself. She even told her young self "Am I crazy ? I shouldn't be seeing you. Only a crazy person can see herself". That scene was a tearing scene.
As for her trauma I discussed on this thread some weeks back I had said that she suffered of PTSD. Then later her behavior suggested that she suffers of moral injury also called moral guilt.
This is, to me, the most fascinated subject of this story.
I don't think it's her type of PTSD. Her trauma comes from seeing all of her friends and relatives die on the…
Renaming a disorder doesn't mean that the disorder doesn't exist. It is a change of expression to soften medical terms into "proper English".
Thanks god I don't use and quote Google as a reference.
Although it isn't the subject here, it was said that autism was a birth defect during fetal development. I had students (teenager girls and young adult girls) with austistic syndrome, whom following an emotional shock had a change of behavior after the age of 6. They withdrew into themselves although they had no family history, they are autistic till the end of their life. Fortunately, new discovery has acknowledged this matter. So I am extremely careful in regards to obsolete medical statistics as they vary from one decade to another. Another example is bipolar disorder. Decades ago is was supposed to be another birth defect. Now science is analizing cases that develop due to emotional shock in young adults.
You both are not consistent in your respective statement: One says that: MPD was renamed DID - meaning that it is DID. the other @whoissilimoy says : "PTSD can also have DID like symptoms, it's what they're going for here. She doesn't have split personality." Excuse my French but THIS IS MIND-BLOWING ! Who's calling the kettle black !
I don't think it's her type of PTSD. Her trauma comes from seeing all of her friends and relatives die on the…
Survivor's guilt is similar to moral guilt. Different terms and in medical study the same as you said "syndrome" which is an effect due to traumatic experiences resulting to PTSD. We both talk about the same behavior. I documented myself on this subject through medical studies. With all due respect, allow me to say that I noticed that you've just contradicted yourself when using the terms: "mental issues" "survivor's guilt syndrome". I don't believe that you have an incorrect intention when reading my previous comment but a different view to acknowledge it.
I watch each episode twice as I have an interest in this subject. I don't want to miss details pertainting to this and I want to see where the script is leading me. I don't stick to previews and do not watch them as I know that most of the time previews are misleading.
I don't think it's her type of PTSD. Her trauma comes from seeing all of her friends and relatives die on the…
I have commented on that weeks ago even the first time she talked to Qing Shuang (herself). It was very obvious. And her transformation into her martial artist master.
And, yes she has a multipersonality syndrome - herself Qing Shuang, her martial artist master- which is linked to PTSD due to the brutal events she experienced in the mountain - I shall discover in the following episodes (I am at episode 30th). And yes she has Moral injury or Moral guilt behavior attached to this.
This is a new disordery mostly related to guilt. It is a very complexe behavior not well adressed and mostly ushed in our "perfect" society. I invite you to look into this intriguing subject.
Ye Li' s grief is so deep that she is in a state or "moral injury". Neuroscience has made a new discovery with people such as veteran soldiers, people that witnessed horrible events performed by evil people, are in state of moral injury which is worst than PTSD because this moral injury is similar to guilt even called moral guilt.
Honestly, other than our lead couple, everyone else in this drama is annoying to me. Jun Cheng and his parents,…
Looks like a nostalgic script similar to year 2000 series. Same sound effects, wardrobe, furnitures, spot lights when main leads near each other. I would be navigating somewhere else if it wasn't for Tan Jian Ci. In the meantime I've armed myself with courage and patience.
Ep 5 with each protagonist's background stories and Lan's dedication. As I can't stand this cliffhanger, I pause for a day or two.
A date to remember june 28, 1969.
No need to be gay to send a harm heart in memory of the June 28th 1969 Stonewall riots in Greenwich village, that started the LGBTQ Civil rights mouvement around the World. There are still battles to win around the World also in our own surroundings a step at the time.
Now I am here for Wang Chu Ran although (and I am honest) I wasn't interested in her past roles neither her acting...at all. Suprisingly, she kept me sitting and laughing and craving for more of her screen time. She is well directed and this role suits her perfectly.
So, for newcomers, don't take any notice of the thumb down whatever youtuber is giving to this Cdrama. Stick to the story for the laugh, the micro exprexions, the comedy, the repartee, the fun fireworks to finish or start your day. Enjoy...enjoy !
I acknowledge that this story is describing trauma at different levels. Be it PTSD, moral injury also called moral guilt in the case of this Cdrama. My comment was critized by 2 commenters some days ago. One of them later on used my view point in his/her own wordings - people's ego is so deep. Yes a trauma or traumas have layers that neuroscience are discovering these last decades.
Every human being, including me, has a trauma or traumas according to their will to acknowledge the reason of their trauma(s). Even population living in democratic countries or no war zone states have trauma(s). Unfortunately, rare are the people that take the first step to face it and reach out for help. Because they bury it due to pride, shame, fear and most of the time because of ignorance. Once the trauma is named, life is more optimistic. I had to document myself on this subject not only for my work but to be at peace with myself.
So glad to read your comment.
That's for sure, Qing Shuang was Ye Li's maid. QS died at the mountain from the epidemic.
At episode 31 we could witness Ye Li speak to her young herself. She even told her young self "Am I crazy ? I shouldn't be seeing you. Only a crazy person can see herself". That scene was a tearing scene.
As for her trauma I discussed on this thread some weeks back I had said that she suffered of PTSD. Then later her behavior suggested that she suffers of moral injury also called moral guilt.
This is, to me, the most fascinated subject of this story.
Thanks god I don't use and quote Google as a reference.
Although it isn't the subject here, it was said that autism was a birth defect during fetal development. I had students (teenager girls and young adult girls) with austistic syndrome, whom following an emotional shock had a change of behavior after the age of 6. They withdrew into themselves although they had no family history, they are autistic till the end of their life. Fortunately, new discovery has acknowledged this matter. So I am extremely careful in regards to obsolete medical statistics as they vary from one decade to another. Another example is bipolar disorder. Decades ago is was supposed to be another birth defect. Now science is analizing cases that develop due to emotional shock in young adults.
You both are not consistent in your respective statement:
One says that: MPD was renamed DID - meaning that it is DID.
the other @whoissilimoy says : "PTSD can also have DID like symptoms, it's what they're going for here. She doesn't have split personality."
Excuse my French but THIS IS MIND-BLOWING ! Who's calling the kettle black !
I watch each episode twice as I have an interest in this subject. I don't want to miss details pertainting to this and I want to see where the script is leading me. I don't stick to previews and do not watch them as I know that most of the time previews are misleading.
Happy Cdrama watching.
And, yes she has a multipersonality syndrome - herself Qing Shuang, her martial artist master- which is linked to PTSD due to the brutal events she experienced in the mountain - I shall discover in the following episodes (I am at episode 30th). And yes she has Moral injury or Moral guilt behavior attached to this.
This is a new disordery mostly related to guilt. It is a very complexe behavior not well adressed and mostly ushed in our "perfect" society. I invite you to look into this intriguing subject.
Neuroscience has made a new discovery with people such as veteran soldiers, people that witnessed horrible events performed by evil people, are in state of moral injury which is worst than PTSD because this moral injury is similar to guilt even called moral guilt.
Gosh I want to know more about this writer.
I would be navigating somewhere else if it wasn't for Tan Jian Ci. In the meantime I've armed myself with courage and patience.