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That! My feelings exactly (I was trying to be displomatic and overshoot 😉)! I always get this feeling that he is plotting something (like when cat came to him in vet clinic and he was not supposed to be working that day, I was like... was he planning on killing puppies?).
He is rich, so perhaps he has some cabin in the woods where the bodies are piling... and Lomfon's might join them soon 😋

@HwangAki I agree to most of what you said (jup - total bitch 😂) but what I meant was face-wise this Kamol looks more like a mafia and he wasn't in orphanage with Day, right (I haven't read the whole Kamol/Kim book, so I might have missed something)? Day and Kim are the same age (they were friends in highschool, I think) and Kamol was already mafia head when he recruited Day, who was teenager at the time, to join his operation, I think.
Bar scene was all kinds of bad 😂
(for Yoon's face to be manly in comparison he would have to be paired with ageless cutie like Gun 🤣🤣🤣)

I agree with you and OP: flashbacks about something that just happened are especially annoying to me, like do they think we have brains of Daphnia (that's a saying in my country)?
Bow is annoying (actress was basically playing the same character in "Ruk Diao") but it seems to be constant archetype in series (sometimes it's done by "lady-boys", like the Angel Squad in "Love Sick").

For me Pee's smile is so fake, like he is faking being nice and it just throws me from the scene.

Unpopular opinion, I guess, but whenever Pee does this gentle smile (so... always), he looks like he is faking being nice. I cannot shake this feeling whenever he does it, even though I know by just him being ML, he cannot be white lotus bitch.

Yes!
That is exactly why I think that they made the right choice to adapt book 3 with flashbacks, because before it the toxicity - especially in book 1 - was off the charts 🤢
I liked this one and watched regular version 1st (did not realised that there was going to be uncut 😒) and now I am doing something I almost never do - watch uncut (I skipped a scene once, so proud of myself 😉), so the surprise postponement of last 2 EPs annoyed me.

There is apparently one in the making (not sure how far) about Day/Itt from book 1&2 (has beginning added to the title - page is up on MDL) but it's done by different studio, I think, so actors should be different.
Not sure if Night/Gear book was interesting enough to make it into a series but Nick/Neil (they have 2 separate books, I think) and Mac/Nan... 🤔

I think I liked visuals of this Kamol better - Yoon is too cute to be badass mafia head 😆 + Kamol should be significantly older than Day/Kim, right? On the other hand Kim was not as I would imagine (in book Itt is self-conscious about him, because apparently Kim is more handsome/prettier than him, so Ton fit THAT better, IMO).

There aren't - this is based on book 3 with a lot of flashbacks about important stuff from book 1&2.
Apparently some other studio is doing book 1&2 (as one season, not filmed yet), so actors should be different.
Honestly after reading books - we did not loose much (like sanity) by them not adapting those 2 books so far. Itt gets beaten, r*ped, confined to a room for some time, then Day controls his everything (means of transportation, food, whom he can meet etc.), so is basically a classic domestic abuser (romanticised version, of course). Only Night, when he sees the recoding of the initial r*pe (and there were multiple since then), tries to help Itt but it's already to late - he is totally dependent on Day. Our main couple has another big issue, but that's just a [drama] normal one - cannot communicate (Itt wanted to celebrate some holiday in Bangkok, like usually with his friends but Day said that that are going to another city and that was it from Day's POV, so Itt got angry but one on his friends told him that Day wanted them to go to Day's parents graves and that made Itt turn 180° on the subject, not to mention when he was told that his friends are going with them... so why Day did not tell him that? It's not like he shares info about his private life constantly, so Itt most likely did not know where his parents were buried).
In 2nd book they get cute kid to take care (he is about 5, if I remember correctly). Sweet, right? Not so much when you consider that kid's parentents (mom is Itt's cousin, I think) offloaded him on our mains because apparently they cannot go to vacation with him (let's add to that that our mains were informed about this arrangement - endorsed by the whole family - like 2 days before parents departure, so the kid barely knew them). Want more of parents irresponsibility? They don't live in Thailand, so kid's knowledge of local culture, language etc. was limited. To sum it up: they abandoned little kid for weeks in foreign country with strangers.
Outside if those "gems" book 1&2 are filled with one of the two being baselessly jealous of the other (one guy, once he met Day, dropped any pursuit of Itt, but Day never let that stop him 🙄) and violent s*x (in one scene Day said that they are doing it without lube because he cannot be bothered to go to next room to get it 🤢... very rarely is there any mention of preparation, they sometimes use lube and condoms were used once - not to dirty the place - so I don't know how Itt is alive, because Day was tearing his "love channel" on the regular in the beginning... I don't even want to think about STDs).
I also don't like Itt's family who (after father approved their relationship) are constantly telling Itt to do as Day tells him (=no opinion, no free will etc.). His dad even mentions that Day and him are the same, so I wonder how he treated his wife and why he was not able to control his son but (implied) the same methods work when Day is involved 🤯 They also told extended family about our mains relationship (positive, yey!) but haven't told about it to the mains and Itt (wanting to spear his parents grief from said family, told his parents and Day to keep their relationship as a secret) then was the but off a joke (Day overheard family's talk on day 1 and decided to join them in this cruel joke).
It seems like I am defending Itt and putting all the blame on Day (true) but Itt is not pure and naïve child (maybe to some degree + a lot of whining). He has flaws but Day is on the one hand trying to balloon them and on the other they are source of obvious future conflict and Day [with his infuriating smirks] doesn't seem to understand how to handle it in adult way (words are not made of gold - he won't lose anything if he communities with his partner) and often future s*x is treated like a punishment (Day's words!).
Final thoughts - you can watch this without knowing book 1&2 as they do plenty of flashbacks that explain key issues (they changed them a bit - like in shooting scene, nobody lands in the pool and both mains get shot, but it doesn't change the plot in significant way).

Yes, Nick is just the best! 😆

It is slightly better (not sure why Itt gets extremely hostile toward any man who even looks at Day but his ex, Kim, doesn't warrant any such reaction) and similarly bad. I really cannot stand everybody treating Itt as a child or a dummy and Day simply is always right + Itt should just blindly follow (his family is approving and encouraging it). Itt is not a genius but if Day talked to him, like a partner should, things would be easier.
From the plus side - Salmon. That's a minus as well because the reason he is staying with our couple is just bizarre. Basically his parents live with him in another country, came to Thailand for vacation and the kid would spoil their plans somehow, so they offloaded him to relatives (in other words: little kid got abandoned in foreign country with not a great knowledge of it, it's culture and language). The whole family just decided that Itt and Day should take care of him and kid's mom was even using the kid to manipulate them into agreement (he is appearing around mid-point of the book, which is where I am at).
They want to adapt that 🤢? With the same actors (I hope not - they were doing good job with what they had here and as a reward/good karma they should be spared book 1)?

Why were the last 2 EPs postponed till next week?
I was doing uncut marathon just to finish with them 😭
Some say that the series is bad - I've seen much worse ("Physical therapy", "Oh! My Sunshine Night" just from the top of my head). I read the books (currently in the middle of the 2nd) and I am glad that they have not used material from them (especially 1st 🤢). I always imagined Day as a bit of a thuggish looking (even though author was describing him as super handsome) and Lee Long Shi has quite cute face (he cannot compare to Kokliang's - Nick's - but that guy's cuteness goes to Gun's territory).

When you check the novels then Day/Itt are like axis for other stories (even though Night/Gear were 1st) - other potential "pairs" (they might get pair in another book) are introduced often in their stories for the 1st time (if you see a guy in her novel - he is soon going to get boyfriend; often it's like book has main couple and each of them have friends/siblings = you know that male friend/sibling of A is going to end up with male friend/sibling of B).
They have so far 4 books (5th was confirmed, I think) and their personalities evolve (devolve?) during them (I hate Itt becoming damsel in distress who cannot do anything and has to totally subjugate to Day - which is encouraged and happily approved by Itt's family!).
In book 2 we have Kim/Kamol from Day/Itt's perspective and Itt is acting really subdued, nice and not jealous - which surprised me because anybody else showing before and after sets him off 💥 (especially weird since they actually were s*x friends and the guy that was making Itt all crazy was a kid that Day knew in England and always considered just friends younger brother). I think that the only person Itt was not jealous off is Kim 😳.

@irbaz51_161 Author made it kind of like Stockholm Syndrom (I read that there is no scientific proof of it and it was made up by reporter to paint - mostly women there - as easily swayed, dummies etc. in order to distract from the real issue that the culprit was trying to shine light into and the victims agreed with his opinion because it was correct... just the methods weren't).
Day recorded the r*pe and was using it as blackmail to control Itt at first. For some reason for Itt the fact that he slept with guy (he wasn't even for a fleeting moment thinking that he got r*ped... I know that there are people who don't believe that it can happen to guys as well 😞) was no issue but the fact that he was bottom was too embarrassing to him 🙄
He was spending all that time with Day (at first confined to the appartment for days) and became dependant on him. At that point Itt was kind of estranged from his parents (he wasn't living with them), so nobody raised alarm when he went missing (his friends either forgot about him *cough*Gear*cough* or believed that he was sick, I think only Nick - after some days - was aware of what was more or less happening).
In other words: Day did everything a classic domestic abuser would do (isolate, beat up, make financially dependant, berate to the point they believe that nobody else would be able to be with them if not for the abuser, control their day-to-day like transport or who they meet, constant call and checks with whom/where they are, constant accusations of cheating or trying to seduce others).
Itt is not great but Day is just walking red flag made out of red flags (he was not using condoms or lube or preparing Itt's "love channel" most of the time - at least once he said that he is to lazy to get lube... he didn't have to buy it, it was in another room or in the nightstand 😒).

Yes, he is (immature and hot-headed... so is Day sometimes 😉).I must say that when I was reading comments I was dreading this series and postponed watching so many times but I started marathon yesterday and it's not that bad (I've seen worst and not dropped them 😆).Honestly it's better that they did book 3 because I read (MLT but still) book 1 and constant r*pe + beatings from Day are nauseating. Not to mention Day blaming all his bad behaviour on Itt (some accusations had some merit and some were on the level of classic domestic abuser "because the soup was to salty"). I get why Day was angry with Itt but the "punishment" was not proportional and the real culprit (Gear) got almost nothing (Night practically instantly forgave him + they started dating and Day wanted to make him loose car race or something like that 🙄). In the meantime Itt was basically chewed by Day (physically and verbally) on daily basis, confined to the room where abuse happened (and was recorded... for blackmail) and then "graciously" allowed to go to school but Day had to bring him and pick him up (he even had issue with Nick - driving him somewhere when Day was busy - sometimes).

Perhaps it the same as with "A Shoulder to Cry on" - they were behind the scenes/interviews, so not an actual episode.

No amnesia... so far 😋
You never know how many clichés they need to fill 12 episodes 😉 (especially in cursed 11th)

I'm on ep 3 and wondering about age gap between Wynn and Vincent. Wynn composed the song in highschool but he was only able to learn piano due to funding that Poseidon provided. Vincent is now 30 (actors are about 9 year apart)? Would he be in a high enough possition to assign founds to Wynn's orphanage at that time? 🤔

I still think that Uea's mom was the worst. Uea told her that step-father(?) tried to r*pe him (additionally he was underage by even Thai standards at the time, I think) and her response was to traumatize Uea by locking him in dark bathroom (I think she also beat him). She was always demanding money and berating Uea for being gay but once she saw wealthy guy take interest in him (she might not have known he was essentially stalking Uea) - she was more than happy to basically pimp Uea out without care about her son's opinion. She was even using her daughter to manipulate Uea (sister was as well suspicious to me: Uea was screaming about his attempted r*pe in the garden as she was not showing any signs of surprise... So she knew? If she did: why was she so insistent on always bringing Uea back home - they could have met outside).
I was trying to think about other not so great BL parents but she is the queen of trash (even Kinn's dad, when he was playing minds games with all of them was better; Vegas's dad was physically and psychologically hella abusive, so perhaps he could have "contended for the crown").

I saw that to and had to rewind (they usually pay like 20TBH, right?) and then I used currency calculator and it's about 5-6USD/EUR, so like a normal café price?