I think we've been a few commenting that he is too manipulative. I personally can't father how their relationship…
Is it love? I looks more like obsession. How can he even love him? They met once, as children, haven't seen eachother for 15 years. I get love at 1st sight but seriously it's closer to obsession than love IMO. I think that SW is in love/infatuated with GT but is simply too much of a dummy to realise it (I remember some people mentioning that he has some omega related trauma, so perhaps that trauma was also boy related and he cannot accept being attracted to a guy or just in general cannot see himself in a relationship with anybody? 🤔) or subconsciously sabotaging himself.
I’m a little surprised that no one here seems to be bothered by the trauma bonding. It’s so extremely manipulative!…
That is why I prefer (so far) the 2nd couple (why do they have so little screen time? 😭). Yes, he lied about his "gender" but it started way before meeting SW + he is not trying to manipulate SW to get together (more like slowly giving up at this point). I do have a feeling that HY knows about him more than he lets SW know 🤔 (and is soft manipulating them too).
For context, I have seen the Korean variation and enjoyed it. However, this 10 episode condensed and somewhat…
I watched 8 EPs so far and I would agree to most of it but I must say I liked Miku (younger sister) in KR version more (and she was a bigger feature there as well).
Xiao Shuai and Cheng Yu moments next ep, I'm so happy~~~ But what happened to you Xiao Shuai???? who hurt you???
I read novel, so if you are interested in spoiler (which might not be done the same way in the series, at least I hope 🙏 because it's 🤢)... Our doctor had a BF. Said BF decided to end the relationship (I think it was due to pressure from family to get married/have kids or something like that), so any sane person would simply talk it out (or sent text or even ghost), right? But of course one cannot expect normal/sane behaviour from characters in this novel - BF organized grup of guys to beat our sweet doctor and to make it look like he was also gang r°ped 🤬 Then, when they met again (in hospital I think), he told doctor that they cannot be together anymore because the doctor is no longer pure 🤦♀️🤯
If you want to know what happened after with the exBF: he was trying to do business with Guo (ML2) and/or Chi (ML1) and kind of scam him but he did not know that it was a trap and exBF got jailed for bribery, money laundering and adultery (I am surprised that adultery is a punishable offence). His co-conspirator and lover was - while unconscious - hit by revengers on purpose in the stomach and (here the translation was very bad) she either miscarried and/or lost ability to get pregnant. I don't know what you think but for me exBF got off lightly - he really damaged doctor physically and mentally (this is why he was resisting Guo for a long time) and got just a prison sentence 😒 (and we all know how light the sentences for white collar crimes are 😮💨). I am not saying that they should have beaten him + done real r°pe but considering what a whacos both MLs (and MC1 to some degree) are, I am surprised they haven't gone way overboard.
Is “My Stubborn” Really That Irredeemable? Or Did I Just Spend Two Months in Horny Hell for Nothing?Let’s…
I am on EP1 (my plan was to binge watch it before tomorrow's finale but I have to pause it too often) and have to disagree about the show not lying to us. The show description is exactly: it's going to be slow burn (How many hand/blowj°bs can be in 1 EP? The team: Yes), Jun is the prankster and Sorm is the stoic one (Sorm drew the cat nose and whiskers 🤦♀️). I was so not ready for the 1st scene at the pond, I thought I perhaps started from another episode but then I remember that there was no "previously on"... Both Jun and Sorm are having relationships with both genders and are cheating on their partner's, which I was also not expecting. EP1, 37min and it's such a mess (my version doesn't have subtitles for the character introduction and texts but thankfully there are apps now for translating text on images) but your comment makes me want to continue 😀
First few EPs keept me going due to JGS and his chaos 🤣, then they got the feels (and yes, the 2nd couple brought a lot of them). S2 for 2nd couple (or at least special EP)!
I wish we got more of the 2nd couple (there were few crumbs in later EPs with basically all of it in EP12). Plot wise it was... not believable (I mean the investigation part and parts of romance) but it's short enough to make me watch the whole series.
What is the point of romance plot if it's not believable? I would believe ML and Marquis had something between them before ML/FL at this point in drama. This drama is not romance centric, so why put it at all? There are dramas without romance between the ML/FL and they work fine 🤷♀️
I said the same thing earlier on lol. He has better chemistry with Mr 8 🙌 on episode 32 and still no chemistry…
You are right, it's not a romance series, so why are they trying to force it so sloppily? You can have series where ML/FL try to work together and there is not even a hint of romance and it is great (once again I am hyping Hand - The Guest, but only for those who are ok with horror... I am not but it was so good, I had to watch it till the end).
I will be honest as well, indeed, the romance between the leads here is definitely not the type to lit up everything…
I would prefer if they deleted the whole romance plot. It is possible to create great series without it (Hand - The Guest is for me poster child for that). I am hoping that EP23 will make me see at least the raw emotions you mentioned (or they could abandon the romance altogether, I wouldn't mind).
well the genre is not even a romance so maybe they didn't focus on their love story and focus more on the revenge,…
Honestly I would have preferred if they simply stopped showing romance where it's not needed (I am not a fan of horror but Hand - The Guest had 2 ML and 1 FL, there was no romance even hinted and it was great) - this series should be just palace intrigue.
It might be just me but I am on EP18 and the chemistry between ML and FL is just... lacking (they are more like siblings/friends than lovers, there is barely any tension between them). IMO he had better chemistry with the old Marquis (there was this scene when they were sitting close and you could feel the tension) and his 2nd son (boathouse). With FL in bath they had barely any spark, there was something on the boat but still lackluster IMO - FL had better chemistry with her BFF, Lord 8th, so far 😮💨
How can he even love him? They met once, as children, haven't seen eachother for 15 years. I get love at 1st sight but seriously it's closer to obsession than love IMO.
I think that SW is in love/infatuated with GT but is simply too much of a dummy to realise it (I remember some people mentioning that he has some omega related trauma, so perhaps that trauma was also boy related and he cannot accept being attracted to a guy or just in general cannot see himself in a relationship with anybody? 🤔) or subconsciously sabotaging himself.
It reminded me of Kiss Me Again where Pete fell on top of Kao 😏
Our doctor had a BF. Said BF decided to end the relationship (I think it was due to pressure from family to get married/have kids or something like that), so any sane person would simply talk it out (or sent text or even ghost), right? But of course one cannot expect normal/sane behaviour from characters in this novel - BF organized grup of guys to beat our sweet doctor and to make it look like he was also gang r°ped 🤬 Then, when they met again (in hospital I think), he told doctor that they cannot be together anymore because the doctor is no longer pure 🤦♀️🤯
If you want to know what happened after with the exBF: he was trying to do business with Guo (ML2) and/or Chi (ML1) and kind of scam him but he did not know that it was a trap and exBF got jailed for bribery, money laundering and adultery (I am surprised that adultery is a punishable offence). His co-conspirator and lover was - while unconscious - hit by revengers on purpose in the stomach and (here the translation was very bad) she either miscarried and/or lost ability to get pregnant.
I don't know what you think but for me exBF got off lightly - he really damaged doctor physically and mentally (this is why he was resisting Guo for a long time) and got just a prison sentence 😒 (and we all know how light the sentences for white collar crimes are 😮💨). I am not saying that they should have beaten him + done real r°pe but considering what a whacos both MLs (and MC1 to some degree) are, I am surprised they haven't gone way overboard.
Both Jun and Sorm are having relationships with both genders and are cheating on their partner's, which I was also not expecting. EP1, 37min and it's such a mess (my version doesn't have subtitles for the character introduction and texts but thankfully there are apps now for translating text on images) but your comment makes me want to continue 😀
Plot wise it was... not believable (I mean the investigation part and parts of romance) but it's short enough to make me watch the whole series.
I am hoping that EP23 will make me see at least the raw emotions you mentioned (or they could abandon the romance altogether, I wouldn't mind).