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I see now. She pretends to curse ZLY so we won't think she's ZLY's fan. Pretends to be DLRB's fan, hoping we stir a war between YM and DLRB.
Pretends to curse ZLY and then next thing, tells us to "go watch ZLY works and see the difference" uhuh... yeah ZLY dramas don't even have any closure so idk how the hell they're "master pieces". LMAO, no offense, but that's just the truth. Anyways...
And the whole macho YM pleasing juniors to stay relevant thing, omg... AN CHUXIA! Lucid007 and Looktothestars other accounts. How many accounts does ZLY pays?
Other actresses should be aware of ZLY too, not just YM. I noticed ZLY finally put an end to her malicious news at last. However, they're pushing all the blame over to Chen Duling. On official news, they wrote several articles of Chen Duling recently, they purposely compare Chen Duling with Yang Mi and several other senior actresses and say that Chen Duling is prettier than everyone. AFTER they done that, they quickly market that Chen Duling is attacking each and everyone so watchout for her. Really????????? What a shrewd marketer, so quick to shift the blame. After ZLY used up her knife, she stabbed and stabbed and stabbed others, everyone found out and denounce her, she knew she can no longer use the knife so she hid the knife in someone else's hands and quickly tell people to come watch who's holding the knife. WTF! A thief, crying out that others are the thief! If ZLY doesn't want to own up her mistakes for marketing so cruelly, it's too late now, but she can just end it quietly. Why keep finding people to blame to no end?

Thanks for your concern but YM is already moving to older roles, your accusations is too exaggerating. If YM brags about seniority, why don't you look at the contents above, and look at which year YM already blasted off her career and which year ZLY blasted off her career? Yes YM and ZLY are old and the same age, but YM already got famous in 2005, ZLY only got famous in 2015, if YM cares about seniority then when the junior ZLY bullies her for 10+ years, why does she never project her seniority entitlement to protect herself? Had she said just a sentence about her being a senior, ZLY would have nothing else to say. She lets ZLY fans step all over her bc she doesn't care about seniority. Only ZLY brags about how senior herself is, if you don't believe it you can go read all discussion boards about what happened to Wang Yibo. I haven't hear about ZLY being a good senior to anyone. Without YM helping several people, they wouldn't get anywhere today. Dilireba is a younger one, YM helped her get resources. Donghua Dijun is old, YM helped him too, he was unconfident and she encouraged him. As a leader, she isn't discrimating of age, gender, or race. Dilireba is not Chinese, you should know already. YM is not the top shareholder of the company. She's not the person giving people their roles and picking their projects for them. As a professional, when people blame her for being bad at casting people and picking projects, WELL... she can't just point fingers at her boss and throw her boss into the firepit, tell people to go yell at her boss instead of her. That's ZLY's style, not YM's style. She took responsibilities over things that aren't her fault. Which actor/actress do not own a percentage of the company? ZLY starts out with 1% of Nicky Wu's company (Strawbear), and don't underestimate 1%, she got it at only 100,000 yuan (free price) from him and can generate ten folds back in millions, now her percentage already rose to 60 after some joints. Strawbear is known for producing Legend of Zu. In Legend of Zu II, did ZLY even return to star in it? Nope. ZLY was a big boss too, how come she didn't have to work hard like YM? Why didn't tell anyone she's a boss? Cause she can't handle being a leader like YM. ZLY wants to pull the weak card. She can't handle responsibilities, if people point fingers at her why she doesn't help anyone she will point fingers at her boss that they're the decision makers. And that's true, holding a small percentage of the company like her and YM only, you're not the big boss, it is true. It's just that YM chose to be a professional and ZLY chose to focus on herself. I believe even DLRB has some shares of the company. As long as anyone have the "connection + money" they can get shares. YM only holds a small percentage of Jaywalk, and Jaywalk isn't like other agencies. They started it from bottom up, that's why YM was considered one of the founders. YM didn't have the luck and "connections" like ZLY, she can only build a new company from scratch. At most, YM can only RECOMMEND which actor for which role, but to grant anyone a specific role, it's not up to her. The biggest help YM gave to DLRB is protecting DLRB from getting all these evil rumors about sleeping her way up, if YM markets herself as the senior who helped DLRB, then if pple say DLRB did casting couch, well... then DLRB only slept with YM, who cares? After ZLY markets that she used 10 years to play support roles (fake, she appeared 5minutes on numerous shows only), before getting to play lead roles, whoever gets to lead right away always get accused of having "connections". That's why YM played as DLRB and other youngsters's main connection to protect DLRB. You should be thanking YM instead. YM did many great stuff but she just didn't boast online like ZLY, who boast about things that can benefit her own self but it's very inconsiderate of others. Even so, YM gets slander about sleeping with young men too. It doesn't pay off being good, might as well be shrewd like ZLY.

You are so late. YM already severe ties with Jaywalk too. Now YM and DLRB are on their separate ways in terms of work, but ofc they'll remain good friends.

What can YM do about fixing the quality of dramas?
You have to understand some history about Cdramas first, then you can decide if it's YM's fault!
Around early 2000s - 2010 YM worked under great agency like Tangren and they produced some of the best shits ever such as Chinese Paladin, Fairies of Liaozhai, The young warriors, etc. Tangren has a long history since 1998. And Jaywalk? It's a baby one that only started in 2013. What are you expecting? Rome isn't built overnight. By 2016, even Tangren couldn't even keep up with competition anymore, Chinese Paladin 5 got horrible reviews, even in 2014 actually, big stars like Liu Shi Shi was kind of going down hill already because of the script issues in Scarlet II and Sound of Desert. Nicky Wu produced The Bride with White Hair in 2012, it wasn't even good. In 2014, Wallace Huo in Perfect Couple feels just like a cheap web drama we see today. Everything was declining as a whole!
What can a baby studio like Jaywalk do right away? They can only build up slowly. Dilireba didn't have the luck to get into a better company than JW. If you or a loved one doesn't have enough luck to land a job with Google but only work at Aldi store, are you going to go scold Aldi or what? Where ever you work, you should be a good worker and be grateful to that company too. Ever heard of don't bite the hands that feed you? Maybe Jaywalk marketed YM a bit too much and made people thought she would be something like a producer like Ruby Lin, but she wasn't, netz got the wrong impression and expected too much. Even if YM were to become a producer, fans didn't understand that not anyone can just be a producer btw, a producer is a producer and an actor is an actor, even if YM were to ever be a producer she needs experience and qualification first. Even for someone with so much experience like Nicky Wu, he worked with very professional directors for years ofc he picked up some of their tricks here and there, when he transitioned into producing it didn't go well. YM too, had the luck to work with more professional directors from the early 2000s, but producing is itself a whole new of art, men tend to pick up those skills better. So she was only a actor with some shareholdings in JW, and had a bit more privilege than others, that was all. The industry was lacking talented directors all around, what can YM do? Even her colleagues have the same trouble at their agencies. Even she couldn't land herself good scripts and was walked all over by juniors who happen to get just a bit better script (not even better IMO maybe just too much water army at work tbh). Stars like Yukee Chen under Tang Yan's studio wasn't doing any better either. Each and every agencies are suffering the same even till today, because the experienced directors retired. New directors are not that good and CGI doesn't help improve but hinders everything. Swords of Legends aired in 2014, it started with 7 or 8 billion, as viewers keep increasing, by 2016 the views only climbed up to about 13 billion, generically, the most extreme popular stuff can only get up to that point. However, you should be asking how the hell ZLY broke the data in 2015 with The Journey of Flower over 20 billion views within one go. China only has about 1 billion people. Just when China was suffering from insufficient good directors, ZLY devised this shrewd marketing scheme where whoever has the most fans is the most billable. Nobody dared to blame ZLY in 2015 right away, they thought it was a one time thing, in 2016 the bish ZLY did the same thing again when Legend of Chusen was nothing but BS, it didn't even have a plot, all it had was the dramawar between ZLY and YZ off screen because the director promised YZ she will be the lead but ZLY stole the leading role and all her scripts. YZ fans questioned ZLY but ZLY fans attacked YZ for being too ugly to lead and not popular enough like ZLY who broke the data in 2015. Legend of Chusen even far exceed the crazy data than Journey of Flower's crazy data. Ever since then, other productions got so pissed they decided to strike back. That's why we have all these stupid fan wars now, things with low qualities but the quantities are big and the fans are massive. How is that YM's fault that Cdramas are bad all around? She started her company in 2013 and made a bet to pay off her debt within a few years but the situation changed so huge thanks to ZLY over marketing to only benefit herself. Those years she got famous was very unpeaceful. When she attended Charity night, others didn't want to greet her the organizers had to put her in a special table by herself, and she did donated tons of money (well she better).

New actresses like Bai Lu, Esther Yu, Zhao Lusi, they're under their own agencies and have enough help to land them good projects. The reason why they get bad reviews about bad acting, you should be asking on ZLY page and not here. For Bai Lu, ZLY hates her for almost stealing the same award she wants, her news editors pretended to make Yang Zi sounds like the culprit hating Bai Lu on the news. Esther Yu is rich and her father sponsored Love Between Fairy and Devil, why are rich girls being hated? That's another question for ZLY fans.

You have to differentiate between real facts and rumors.
RUMORS: weibo, douban, facebook, youtube, MDL
FACTS: official news, (CHINA)Sohu, Sina, 163 | (USA)Jaynestars, Dramapanda, Dramapotatoe

The reason why some of us are so angry at ZLY is because the official news is not somewhere to spread lies, but it happens. For example, when you look at the footages you don't see YM of bad attitudes but on the official news, ZLY defamed her there as well as many other actresses.

All the bad stuff you're saying about YM are the stuff on the news ZLY's news editors said about her, that's why fans here are angry at ZLY.
You only know the RUMORS but you don't know the real stuff, and the real stuff we know aren't even everything either.

During the first few years everyone gave ZLY the chances to change her marketing tactics, if she isn't behind it then she should clarify, but she never did. It can only turn back to bite her at the end.

Tips for haters. Unfortunately Yu Shuxin and Lu Yuxiao have great personalities, pitching them against each other is a losing game. You know who you are. If you are the SMARTER one, then find other things to complain instead.
Screenshot the scenes you saw bad lighting, provide a prototype how it should be done.
Screenshot the scenes with slo-mo and provide a prototype of how it should be done.
Screenshot the scenes with bad camera angles and provide a prototype of how it should be done.

If you're going to complain, at least complain about something realistic and reasonable, provide the evidence, and solution.

Uh... I don't get it. Aren't all the brides from families of "martial arts" background? How do they not know martial arts?

Besides, I don't understand all the fuss about who's smarter and having more screen time. Things like that, used to never be a thing. Netz just want to find excuses to complain, a lot of times, there are people paying their bills for them to cyberbully.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Right? Like how?????? Maybe I need to speak nicely of all those shameless things ZLY are doing so I'll get hired too.

So when we need to blame YM for something we say "she doesn't have the right to control what other actors collaborate with" but when we want to blame her being a bad boss we also say "she made bad decisions for herself and other juniors under her agency"... One way or another, she's damn no matter what she does. 🤣

I cannot tell if Lucid007 is a ZLY hater, or just a really really bad worker for ZLY and cannot do her job right. 🤣

Why her? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Girl, LITERALLY a few minutes after you talking shits here, your article published on the 28th came out when it's only the 27th today so........ we're supposed to suspect Michelle Chen??? Ok???

Wink! Wink!
ZLY paid fans insulting our IQ, trying to make us think she's a fan of "Michelle Chen".
LMAOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

YM and Chen Xiao are friends. Besides, ZLY hates Michelle Chen to death. Pretending to be a fan of Michelle definitely shoots multiple birds with an arrow. That simple tactic, ZLY played too many times against Yang Zi.

Yes, when YM was that so call "big boss" of JW, the juniors she looks after like Dillireba collaborated with Zhao lusi. YM is well known for giving spotlight to every new comers. The only person attacking others is ZLY. ZLY often attacks Zhao Lusi too btw. You must be a ZLY hater, wanting us to spill ZLY's dirty eggs when we don't want to.

Eh... how many times have anyone else seen a ZLY fan saying "I'm not a ZLY fan"?????????????????
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Michelle Chen should totally! She is another victim of ZLY.
Are you a ZLY hater? Looks like you're trying to make us tell all the bad details about ZLY. ZLY wants Michelle's husband Chen Xiao sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo badly that she also published billions of fake news that Chen Xiao is unhappy when taking photos with Michelle and that they already divorced. Then ZLY turned out to divorce after 2 years while Michelle still married, Michelle laughed at ZLY at that time. ZLY made her fans wrote enouragements for Chen Xiao to pursue after her. Shameless. Chen Xiao is friend with YM. LMAO!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for letting us know you are able to provide a news even ahead of your time! So it's not even the 28th for you yet and you already have this article ready.

Eh... if it's just a paid fan from ZLY speaking then what's the use? At least they divorced after Hawick Lau was caught visiting an actress in her underpants, everyone believes he cheated. Feng Shaofeng didn't even cheat, ZLY accused him of cheating because of some bogus text messages, when that failed, she defamed 2 of her maids from Story of Minglan that they slept with him on set.
When YM's marriage broke, either her or Hawick will have to give up. YM chose to give up, she protects the people who takes care of her child. For this many years, YM never allow a single time for the news to badmouth her inlaws or Hawick. She only allows the news to badmouth her. She stepped out of the child's life to protect the child. She also protects the people looking after her child. The child was left in the care of "FAMILY MEMBERS".

Where as ZLY does not even have custody. See her profile how she lie about her sharing custody? PSH! Super fake. FSF didn't cheat on her, she divorced him bc she wants her fan boys back, but she defamed him that he cheated. Then she maliciously attacked mother in law EVERY WEEK. Even his mom doesn't want to look after her child. Her child was caught behaving very close with the caretakers. These days ZLY pretends to be a good mother, however the child was caught not wanting to hold her hand and even under the mask anyone can tell how her body language was so annoyed and didn't want to spend time. The child was left in the care of "OUTSIDERS" and ZLY has the face to attack FSF and MIL each and every day. These days people hate her so much that she pretends to spread fake news about "remarrying" OMG... After bullying the Feng family to that extent already and she thinks they'll die to get her back. LMAO.

Published on 8/28/2023, just a few minutes after your conversations here. Looks like ZLY really care about international fans, once she sees that international fans found out her dirty eggs she quickly hire writers like that. Hire us too, we can write better!!!!!!

I'm not surprised. ZLY used her own child on the news to hype herself many times. The constant fake news about YM's child having depression and all that, also done by ZLY. Why would ZLY be afraid of putting fake words into the child's actor mouth? He worked with YM and Sun Li, both actresses that ZLY hates. He's only a child but ZLY wouldn't care.

For realssssss! MDL is nothing but a forum for fans. If what fans say are important, then why are the defamations ZLY doing to others in the official news not important at all? If that anti wants to silence people she should at least offer us the job too, I don't mind getting paid LMAO!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I noticed ZLY lost face after everyone ignored her at every red carpet night, she even had people write on Sohu that "Sun Li ignored Yang Mi, ZLY won". Rolling eyes, the footage even showed that Sun Li and YM talked to each other and ZLY still make news like that. The question is, even if Sun Li were to ignore YM, what does that have to do with ZLY? Obviously ZLY hired those writers.
Why wouldn't YM fans talk about it, the person being defamed on the news is always YM. Well, it's not only YM, ZLY also drags so many actresses into her propogandas. I'm wondering when someone will finally sue her. Everyone knows Sun Li and ZLY were once in the same agency, Sun Li disliked ZLY because ZLY was rude, she was extremely new and already competed for all of Sun Li's resources. When asked ZLY's opinion of Sun Li, she shadily said she haven't even got time to see Sun Li's works. When rumored to be a support for Sun Li, her news also attacked Sun Li and pulled the poor background card. This is not the first time the media tries to break up Sun Li and YM's friendship. It happened many times, at the end both ladies always wish each other's happy birthday or found hanging out together. Sun Li and YM are friends since back in the early 2000s, YM played a support role for Sun Li. They got famous around the same time but up to this day, unlike ZLY, YM is never jealous and always compare herself with others. If ZLY wants to compete, she can do it fairly. Defaming and lying about others on official news, not acceptable!

Competition. What's supposed to happen is, the government needs to arrest those water armies hired to spread hate. She might have only a few jealous people hating her for being pretty, maybe like 10 people, but each of them make millions of REALISTIC accounts to spread the hate. The government just didnt want to help. With WCR's great beauty and talents combined, she is estimated to become the next big thing. I bet she has potential to surpass YM, DLRB, ZLY, YZ, Etc. pretty soon. She is young. She is pretty. She has great talents like dancing. She will do really well on both wuxia and xianxia genres with her classic looks. Another big one is Zhang Huiwen, but I think WCR might be faster. The government didn't want to work, bc they're dating other actresses who are jealous of people like WCR. NONE of these so call obssessive fans of Yang Yang, Xiao Zhan, Wang Yibo, Chen Yi, Gong jun, etc. are real people. China has around 1.4 billion people, some are too young or too old to use the computer, teens are accused of chasing after celebrities, but teenagers are too worried about school cause of their scary education system, so it's actually the immature adults working in a life threatening economy having to do unethical jobs and act as water armies to serve competitors. The government knew but they only favor whoever is their cheese cake. In the past, dramas are only depending on sales. By 2015, something like The Journey of Flower, people like ZLY started relying on "viewers" and fans started becoming part of the game when they shouldn't be. On average, views are only in the 5-8 billion. Even really popular dramas only reached 13 billion and does not surpass 15. Don't know what ZLY did, her views surpassed a freaken 20 billion, causing the market to crash. It's hard enough to find 1 billion new people, don't know where the new 10+ billion people popped out of in 2015. Since then, whoever has the "most" fans, that's all it matters, their status and salary can surpass seniors of 30 years. Drama qualities dropped as crazy as ever, even the crappiest thing ever as long as there are over 20 billion water armies saying it's a 10/10 master piece... who cares about the logics that China only has 1.4 billion people? These fake fan wars and antis are things competitors do against each other, the government is supposed to look into who is playing business unethically, but they don't. There are even some actress that will defame others to no end but never get in trouble.

😂 So that person knows how to do math too? And they're not blind? I thought they can't do any math and they're blind. So what if they're a user for many years? I still recall there was a year around 2017 or 18, ZLY will have 3 new hearts per day. Very believable everyday it's always the number 3. Those are totally not fake accounts at all. The parrots commenting on her dramas all sound the same, it's no wonder why her stuff are highly rated.
Yang Zi had about 300 hearts only at that time, and her fans got accused being attackers of other people's dramas like the Pillow Book. The hearts on Yang Zi's profile even decreased drastically.

That's what I was trying to sall the whole time. ZLY only got famous around 2011 and her big hit was in 2015. YM already got famous around 2005, Liu Shi Shi is around 2007 because of Fairies of Liaozhai, and Tang Yan wasn't until Chinese Paladin 3 in 2009, there were some gaps of 2-4 years between them, but there wasn't even any war at all. Why was everything so peaceful in the past? Cause the people who got famous first weren't bishy like ZLY, marketing herself looking prettier, being more popular, being pitiful, and deserving the lead roles more than others. We can see that everyone can be a lead in CP3 without wars and issues, that was cause everyone was having good attitude. The gap between ZLY and YM, LSS, TY are so many years! They didn't even bully ZLY when they're more experienced than her. In 2015 ZLY suddenly became the highest paid actress out of nowhere. Imagine today if Bai Lu or Zhao Lusi got the same pay from their 1 hit, ZLY will be the first to complain. She will make excuses that they didn't suffer enough like her. The moment ZLY got a hit in 2015, she already bully other actresses and everything was justified through her having "too much fans" to argue against. China has 1.4 billion, ofc not all are old enough to use the internet btw, and her fans surpassed the amount of population on earth combined with all living mammals. No fake fans? I don't believe it. Speaking of fake accounts, obviously the ZLY fans are the most fake. Evidence clear as mud and the ZLY fans act like they blind and can't see anything, but when they slander others they sure know how to slander. Funny how YM never market against anyone, yet she was the first to get defamed and was being called the most "diva" and "best business woman" who should quit the industry to go do business only because she owned about 3% of JW. While people like ZLY actually owned SO MANY studios as free gifts from Nicky Wu but she isn't a marketer. YM owned up her responsiblities, JW relied heavily on her popularity, she didn't even throw ZLY under the bus to save her studio from less hate. When it was exactly ZLY who overbought waterarmy since 2015 and messing up data from there on.
YM and everyone worked hard and chose not to complain and play victim or fingerpoint. ZLY doesn't have enough acting skills to go any higher, she turns her anger at YM and slanders YM and all the 85 actresses of bullying her. Not only seniors but even the juniors in the industry can all see how petty ZLY is so they ignore her. The accounts rallying for ZLY and her actions are paid and the fakest among all.