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Replying to wazzup • Jun 26, 2023
Title The Legend of Shen Li Spoiler
LMAO, it can't be helped. ZLY aged drastically. LGX as well. Even all the photos and BTS footages have insane…
I also wanted to know how good ZLY can produce and this is honestly cheap. Stating a fact isn't being a hater. I also don't know why you say sexist when Wazzup also said LGX aged, IMO he aged significantly and just pointing that out doesn't mean anyone is sexist or ageist.
It's true that due to age ZLY lost some fat around her face and her chin got bigger, I noticed it when she sang the CCP song at the gala. That was in video so anyone can go watch. I don't know how anyone can enlarge/minimize their chin they went under the knives or use filters.

I also wonder if there is any plot to this, that ISN'T a summary in the description up there. It only sounds like what might happen in the first few episodes. The trailer also only showed what's from that sumarry as well. But Oh Dear, it's set up for 40 episodes?? IDK what's the story for now, but at the very minimum, I was expecting the cinematraphy to be okish. It's very blurry and fuzzy bc of overused filters.

Before ZLY chose this script, the media attacked YM for being non-serious and still trying to act as young girls in Xianxia dramas. Those comparisons were made on the media, saying ZLY is already "serious" like Sun Li while the other post 85'ers are still nothing. Those news against all the other post 85'ers are still online, and there is 0 news about the others messing with her. So, yeah there are news saying the 85'ers ignore her, but those are FAKE, it's why Lei Jiayin avoided her because many people already know she generates fake news to gain attention. I must capitalize the word MEDIA as well. You said some artists need to control their fans, but they're only doing that on discussion forums. The attacks on other artists happen on REAL NEWS. It's why many post 85'ers got defamed. From what I seen, ZLY's fans are the worst but everyone will always say she can't control her fans because she's not responsible for what they do. OK??? So... then... why are the others responsible?

And, I mean... after ridiculing YM for sticking with Xianxia and looking down on that genre, the next thing is you don't only star in Xianxia as well but also produce it. Don't forget you only got famous because of Xianxia, after you got famous from it you attack the genre as the non-serious stuff, then you come back to be in Xianxia again, how sweet?
I mean... since that's the case, she better make sure her Xianxia is a billion times better than all the others. 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 If you think Xianxia is a non-serious genre, then ofc, either 1, don't do it since you ridicule the genre, or 2, make it turn "serious" then... and make it way better than the rest then. With cinematography quality this low....... 🤣 🤣 🤣Also, other than the genre, since you ridicule other actresses more senior than you, also make sure to have excellent acting skills too... but this acting is very "copied" and similar to everyone else.
Besides, Deng Ke worked on so many things, is TMOPB the only thing he ever worked on or what? The compliants about TMOPB being better, isn't ZLY obviously targetting YM?
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Replying to wazzup • Jun 26, 2023
LMAO, it can't be helped. ZLY aged drastically. LGX as well. Even all the photos and BTS footages have insane…
Legend of Chusen AKA Zhuxian have 400 chapters and Bi Yao went into a coma on the first few chapters. Totally not a side character, she's totally the main character.

YES! They casted ZLY last. Meaning, they promised YZ the lead role first, until they duped her cause ZLY wanted the lead role.
The novel fans are totally soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo grateful ZLY saved the show 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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Replying to BubbleNSqueak • Jun 10, 2023
Person Bai Lu
I was one of them but I am not from China so I know no better. Just didn't think she was that popular compared…
Whoever is behind it won't let others know it's them, like I said, ZLY's team recently tried to accuse YZ being jealous of Bai Lu's success. The truth will come out sooner or later. The reason is really just jealousy, Bai Lu is becoming more and more versatile, besides, she's the true definition of a "straight forward" person. Versatile, straight forward, talented, etc.That's everything ZLY wants to be and she's not, although she faked it this long, her billions of articles praising her of versatile and straight forwardness never convince anyone. First, ZLY was never straight forward but extremely rude and inconsiderate, besides, wasn't only her words, her actions were also very rude. She'd never apologize. Pulled people to the ground, scratched people, put saliva all over shared eating utensils, etc.
She refused to apologize, always cried and pulled the victim card that she came from the countryside.
People already know her marketing pattern, it's why artists are avoiding interactions with her. All she can do is cause trouble online but in the real world nobody cares. People should just ignore, let her pay the media and lose money all she wants, nobody cares.
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Replying to bluefoxx • Jun 10, 2023
Person Bai Lu
Why is it that xu kai’s fans hate bai lu but the fans of lou yunxi are supportive? Or am I wrong? She has the…
FYI, fans are not always real fans. Just like how 227 brought Xiao Zhan down, some were real fans but a great number of it were paid by competitors to bring him down and lots of people will say things like "we have proof it's all his fans, none were hired" and then there goes no proof what so ever like they claimed.
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Replying to DA202 • Jun 5, 2023
Person Bai Lu
Since there are less English language sites to highlight china's stars popularity, i guess its only normal that…
She's definitely insecure like Bitchang. She didn't have to cheat, if the product is good, naturally it will sell without cheating. Although AvenueX and Marcus tried to degrade many great shows, people have eyes. Also, there are data that can prove what's truly good.
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Replying to DA202 • Jun 4, 2023
Person Bai Lu
Since there are less English language sites to highlight china's stars popularity, i guess its only normal that…
I know! Can't stand the ZLY water armies hating One and Only because they also think it's a threat to TSOML. They cried about BL wearing blue and having bangs like ZLY. The truth is they're afraid that BL is getting very versatile, she played loud characters in the past but she then transitioned into a quiet role, and she's sooooo awesome at it. ZLY failed to act correctly like a lady from the nobles, they're jealous other actresses can do it better. AvenueX and Marcus always sabotaged all possible competitors.
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Replying to DA202 • Jun 4, 2023
Person Bai Lu Spoiler
Since there are less English language sites to highlight china's stars popularity, i guess its only normal that…
Yup! That's so true about AvenueX and Marcus, it's too coincidental. Aside from them, there used to be all these bloggers in the past too, like Kappy from Virtual Voyage but she quit. All of them coincidentally like the exact same things. People are starting to realize how fake all these "knowledgeable" bloggers are.
Master pieces, my a**.
If people really really do appreciate master pieces, they go to these made in the 80s and 90s:

Family-oriented, Chinese culture related:
- Dream of the Red Chamber
- Eternal Happiness, lots of TVB stuff

Historical, Bromance:
- Romance of the Three Kingdoms
- Twin of Brothers (Raymond & Ron)

Myths and legends:
- Journey to the West
- Liao Zhai

Things like NIF and TSOML, omgee... after 15 minutes in, the screen doesn't even move anywhere at all. That's called a master piece......... why am I so confused? I can totally make money by creating a 2 hour video that only contain 1 of ZLY's photo during the entire 2 hours and I will definitely win the best director award, wanna bet? Her photos are not free though, she is suing people over her photos these days. I don't know how she has technology to track who uses her photos but she doesn't know how her news are defaming her colleagues that's why people are ignoring her.

If you ask an honest American person what a master piece look, they will tell you it's something like Gone with the Wind, and the sequel is bs.
For Chinese people, it's the complete opposite, they'll promote the sequel as the master piece, while they hide the original one away from the public. Cause whatever is most current needs to sell.
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Replying to DA202 • Jun 4, 2023
Person Bai Lu
Since there are less English language sites to highlight china's stars popularity, i guess its only normal that…
🤷🤷🤷 Even Marcus is that "nice" guy and turns out he secretly throws shades at others and hide embarassing news for his bias. There's nothing reliable. I'm only sharing the news to tell people, don't fall for those fake things. Read from anywhere, but like first_snow55 said, take everything with a pinch of salt.
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Replying to DA202 • Jun 4, 2023
Person Bai Lu Spoiler
Since there are less English language sites to highlight china's stars popularity, i guess its only normal that…
Hell yeah ZLY did that to LYF first. I wonder if LYF got mad at YM and ABB cause of the fat news. Don't know if you saw the most recent WB night. It was full of dramas. If LYF was mad cause of that, she should know her own news better, the first to attack her was ZLY. The blamed only shifted to YM and ABB later. Thankfully Hu Ge sided with YM, ABB, and LSS that night.

IDK if it's ZLY's agency doing those articles, or if it's ZLY herself. You know, she changed agencies so many times already. How can each time she moved to new agency, and every new agency always market the same way? Maybe it's the person. Maybe she charged high fees bc she's willing to spend some of the money for high ratings and good reviews. I think that's what make netz start thinking it's easy to change agency, they kept yelling at others like YZ, DRLB, ZLS, JJY, Yukee Chen, etc to change agencies too. LOL! Only if it's that easy. When you're bind in a contract, you can't just change whenever you want, peeps. Not everyone is powerful like somebody.
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Replying to Noelle • Jun 4, 2023
Person Bai Lu
About the threat, he seems to have a very high EQ and is also a very good speaker. I bet he doesn't giva damn…
IDK since I haven't seen the discussion you're saying but a leader doesn't wait for others to let/ask/make him lead, he does it if he sees the situation fit. I think he's just smart to know what to do to not make things awkward. I will not complain for more BL collaboration, they really have chemistry.
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Replying to Oolaimar Bee • Jun 3, 2023
Person Zhao Lu Si
zhao lusi is still young she got plenty of time to be more popular in china. idk why everyone complaining she's…
In terms of popularity, yes, she's popular. But I think what people mean by saying she's underrated is not the same as saying she's not popuar enough, they're talking about how she doesn't receive enough recognitions. She played a diverse of different roles already and antis still keep categorizing her as an "idol" actress who isn't versatile.
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Replying to Oolaimar Bee • Jun 3, 2023
Person Zhao Lu Si
i really wish to see bailu and zhao lusi acting together as two FL. like the starry love but both get equal screen…
I second that!
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Replying to DA202 • Jun 3, 2023
Person Bai Lu
New MDL member!Been browsing MDL for years but this is the first time i had the urge to create an account there...…
About the threat, he seems to have a very high EQ and is also a very good speaker. I bet he doesn't giva damn about antis. You do what you do that's the right thing, ignore antis that shouldn't be part of the industry, they're the lawless losers hired to make trouble for everyone.
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Replying to DA202 • Jun 3, 2023
Person Bai Lu Spoiler
Since there are less English language sites to highlight china's stars popularity, i guess its only normal that…
Yes! Unfortunately, when there are those Eng sites, they always source from Sohu and Sina. I explained those sources are biased, and Bai Lu has already been viewed as a new threat cause her rank is up there and very high. Even when Yang Zi already stayed so low key and avoid the lime light she still get slandered. I learned that those with no news at all will do better than those with news. Like Liu Shi Shi, she tends to have nothing published about her, she stays quiet.
Even so... actually... even as quiet as LSS, she still ran into fake news about her. It's surprising how she made it into international news multiple times having postpartum depression.
Marcus Sim is a huge fan of ZLY, for sure he knew what happened and he still featured the fake news.
It started with FSF's interview, he said ZLY became sad after having the child, which led to postpartum depression discussions. Then, ZLY didn't want to lose face bc she didn't have a wedding, the public was already assuming his mother didn't like her that's why there was no wedding and she must be so sad because of it. Sohu suddenly published millions of news saying LSS was hated by her mother in law and it led to postpartum depression. However, LSS was actually found happy and smiley all the time. ZLY was indeed found sad looking and hiding from the public bc of weight gain.

About these news, international fans should be very careful!
If the person spreading the news is bias, they will not share news ethically.
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Replying to BubbleNSqueak • Jun 3, 2023
Person Bai Lu Spoiler
I was one of them but I am not from China so I know no better. Just didn't think she was that popular compared…
LOL! I remember Hu Ge put his focus on the gold medal bc he didn't want to interact with her.
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Replying to BubbleNSqueak • Jun 3, 2023
Person Bai Lu Spoiler
I was one of them but I am not from China so I know no better. Just didn't think she was that popular compared…
😂 LMAO! Yeah! ZLY is still saying YM ignores her and stole Krish Wu from her. I'm like, just shut up already.

At that time, Li Xian ignored her bc she was married.
Now she's divorced, they put her next to Li Xian again during Harper's BAZAAR.
Pretty sure Li Xian knew about her evil marketing, he was there the whole time he knew what happened and it was nothing like how the media said about him and YM.
She's divorced now and he still completely ignores her. 😂
So funny when he turned body towards Victoria Song and started conversations with her, ZLY rolled her eyes at them and then suddenly got afraid if she was being recorded, she started searching everywhere if there were cameras around. Lei Jiayin next to her others side was even more hilarious. He was just praying to god "Don't market attack me, PLZ don't market attack me" and BAM, they market attack him cause he woudn't speak to her. If he spoke or look at her he'll offend somebody big, if he doesn't he'll still offend her. He completely froze his attention HARD to the front and the boring stage, even when they announced her name as winner he did not even change his body language to congrats her right next to him. He was soooooooooo afraid of offending her you can tell he yelled out "Great!" and clapped for her, but still completely glued to the front and wouldn't interact with her a tiny bit.
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Replying to BubbleNSqueak • Jun 3, 2023
Person Bai Lu Spoiler
I was one of them but I am not from China so I know no better. Just didn't think she was that popular compared…
After checking out some discussions on forums like Zhihu, just a guess, she's probably a mistress of someone powerful. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's someone last name Xi and name starts with letter J.

If you look at Jing Tian, who is often accused of having "powerful backer" from the government, it happened many many times:

https://www.jaynestars.com/news/jing-tian-avoids-being-blacklisted-due-to-powerful-backer/

It makes me wonder, how smooth is the career path for women with these back up?

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202205/1266755.shtml

"Jing Tian has been in Hollywood blockbusters such as The Great Wall with Matt Damon and Kong: Skull Island. Chinese actress Jing Tian was slapped with a million-dollar fine for breaching the nation's advertising law by touting candies as a weight-loss drug."

She is banned from advertisement until 3 years, happened a year after her success in Rattan.

Hm... Doesn't look very smooth to me...
Doesn't seems to be very favored by the government... This is what people call the most hated actress cause of her back ups? IDK...

After thinking through, I think it isn't true that Jing Tian has powerful backer but bc she made it to Hollywood, which is what ZLY wants the most, so Jing Tian got defamed being a woman who slept her way up.

If you compare Jing Tian with ZLY, ZLY is very serious about her "no backup" branding. It's been 2 decades, Sohu still have to convince everyone for sure she has no backup.

After JT got fined, netz also questioned the government how come ZLY didn't get fined too.
JT got fined because she advertised a product without enough scientific research behind the "weight loss" claim, but it was only her first time.
ZLY, on the other hand, advertises bird nests since forever, and her claims are way more ridiculous. She claims to eat a package per day and the health benefits are "eternal youth, longevity, weight loss, energetic, skin brightening, maternal recovery, etc" All of those are also none scientifically proven, and today, she's still advertising them.

Another association ZLY has with the government is the false donation news.
She is quite known for admiring Hu Ge.
He was the first to won an Ambassador award for his hometown.
ZLY decided she also wants an Ambassador award for her hometown in Hebei, and one was created for her as wished. Around the same time when she became an Ambassador, the road in her hometown was also coincidentally fixed.
The villagers made the assumptions that ZLY built the road because she was Ambassador around the same time, also cause that's what everyone said online. But the villagers were a little disappointed that ZLY is very rich, how come she only swept the road?
LMAO! Who can't agree? I mean, LOOK AT THE PHOTOS...

Before the construction:
https://p1-tt.byteimg.com/origin/tos-cn-i-qvj2lq49k0/06641ea3443646f7bb4496abbf6ae397.jpg

After the construction:
https://p1-tt.byteimg.com/origin/tos-cn-i-qvj2lq49k0/c68aaa56cbcc4c529ac31c5afcef7345.jpg

LMAO!

The interview with a villager:
Interviewer: "Who built the road?"
Villager: "ZLY did. Everyone said it's her"
Interviewer: "What did you think about the road?"
Villager: "The road was fixed, yes, but it was only a little bit better than before, it's not that good."

LOL! Yes, the old guy (villager) is totally telling the truth, it wasn't really fixed at all. They only swept it a little, the potholes will form again.

ZLY's fans came to her defend, they cursed the villagers being "greedy" and "ungrateful" for almost 2 years. ZLY purposely acted like she didn't know and she's a quiet person so she didn't need to answer. After such a long time passed, she said to the public it wasn't her but she also spoke with a very innocent, non-serious laugh. It made the interviewer thought she built it, but wanted to remain humble so she's denying. So the interviewer kept asking again and again for her to be serious, and she still answered in laughters all the time. So, to this day, her fans are still saying, she fixed it.

The truth is, only the "higher authorities" can fix the road.
https://min.news/en/entertainment/9d41ffaf1e3b21ff0a6bce7b49977ac6.html

If ZLY fixed the road, what is her connection with "higher authorities"???

Still, another question, since she didn't fix the road, why isn't the "higher authorities" mad over her false marketing?

On Sohu, her news are still like this:

https://www.sohu.com/a/680528228_121311696
Under the expansion:
"After becoming famous, she still remembers her hometown and personally pays for road construction for her hometown."

Just look at that date, that was published just a few days ago!

Up to this day and year...
ZLY still has the audacity to keep saying she built the road. I don't know what to say anymore.
Usually, whether an actor is lying intentionally or UN-intentionally, they MUST explain on matters like this ASAP.

I don't know what type of special power is behind ZLY but it seems very powerful.

As an Ambassador, this is very shameless. She can never wait to see whenever her colleagues have a bad news and will make comparisons of herself with them, like when YM had the donation scandal, her news will say YM is immoral to indulge in fraudulent donations while ZLY is a heart of gold. YM's scandal was embarassing, yes, but that was at least bc they contracted a "scammer" that lied to them, that's why they never knew the recipient never received anything bc they were told by the person they hired everything went well. Plus, the recipient never follow up either, that's why they thought everything must've been alright. After many years passed the recipient suddenly wanted to bring up trouble when they could've done it right there and then, I say they were high suspicious. Besides, YM didn't even brag day and night about the donation like ZLY. They were willing to go public and apologize. Unlike ZLY who is still "silent" today and bragging.

This is why colleagues dislike ZLY and avoid her, it's not because she came from the countryside. The truth is, Xie Na, Zhou Dongyu, Gong Li, Zhang Ziyi all came from the countryside. Urban people do not look down on rural people. Ni Ni didn't exactly come from the rural side but also didn't have acting background like ZLY. There are many actors like that, they didn't attend acting school, and they don't get hated for any of that. The problem with ZLY is nothing about her rural culture or lack of education. Problem is, she often advertises herself as someone who can act better than those who went to school. Her colleagues dislike her bc of conceitedness and victim playing.

She got into the industry by Feng Xiaogang in 2006. Feng Xiaogang is almost as famous as Zhang Yimou, and has good connections with the government. When he and several directors scouted new talents through the Yahoo Star Search, ZLY dated her ugly manager so he would pay the application fees, tickets, clothes, traveling, and other expenses. Although her performance was really bad, the sacrifice she made for a little competition like that was a lot. Yahoo competition was in 2006, within the same year, she already had an "Empress" role in "King of Nanyue Kingdom". She may appeared very shortly in it, but if you think about it, LOOK AT THE CAST!
Top notched actors:
Ray Lui
Ning Jing
Tang Guo Qiang - Most famous Zhuge Liang 1994
Such a big production like that takes a long time before it can air.
For the drama to air in 2006, and she also shot the scenes in the same year 2006, right after she just won the award in 2006, all that means...
FXG favored her very much and helped her ASAP. The production already worked on editing when they specially arranged for her to shoot scenes the very last minute.
Even people with schooling background (even the "rich" backgrounds like FSF at that time) cannot get such roles like that, plus special arrangements at the same time, during the competitve 2000s. If you look at what FSF gets to play in the early 2000s, it wasn't any much better, and he's that "rich" guy.
She was also given many advertisements to shoot, she even worked with big names like Zhou Xun and they had a photo together as evidence. But all that was not enough bc YM was already famous at that time as the "support" in ROCH. ZLY was still nowhere close to YM or LYF in 2006 although her opportunities were not exactly as bad as she made it sounds. So she complains a lot about how she had a hard journey... I will say for someone in the mid 2000s like that, it wasn't a hard journey considering even those with "backgrounds" still can't get what she got. YM worked her way up as well, she started out as supports only, and was even physically abused before by directors who wanted their women to play the role she had. Not everyone had it easy. Even someone as beautiful as Liu Yifei, had it not been because of the powerful connection, perhaps, she too also couldn't have been XLN no matter how talented. Mid 2000s were harsh years for everyone, but the qualities were undeniably excellent.
Since the internet is obviously pretty much controlled in China, and ZLY can get her hands on it, she's not very simple. During the time ZLY's fans fought with WYB's fans, his fans brought up all her scandals. That's why the government muted her because they needed excuses to clean that up and delete those comments about her. YM is famous for being protective of her child's face circulating online, although ZLY brags a lot about herself being even "more" protective, she was very worried during the time she got muted because netz brought up the speculation of who fathered her child, so she purposedly unmasked her child to the public to "hint" that he looks exactly like his father FSF. Somehow the government said she was supposed to be muted and lots of her fans accounts got banned, but lots of fake commenters still came to post on the photo "looks just like FSF". Very odd.
ZLY and Kris Wu were from the same broker and agency. For Kris being able to hid his criminal activities for that long, his connections isn't simple either.
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Replying to BubbleNSqueak • May 30, 2023
Person Bai Lu Spoiler
I was one of them but I am not from China so I know no better. Just didn't think she was that popular compared…
Yes!
In the past, it's actually possible for people to become A-listers for only 1 show. They did not have to star a million different roles to be considered versatile. There are some roles that make a character change/develop dramatically, they can prove versatile skills within a single show. Back then, after seeing a person lead, it doesn't mean they will always continue leading. They could be villains or even minor characters the next round continuously. Opportunity is opportunity, whatever role they get, just do them well. That's what it means to play different characters and be versatile back then.

In the early 2000s, not many people can afford computers yet. If they can, they might not be able to afford internet along with it and only use the computers to play the software games downloaded to their computers. I usually go to the library for internet. I used SPCNET back then, I noticed a bit fanwars sometimes, but they aren't huge. It's a helpful forum bc each casette/cd per episode can amount to a lot, you don't want to spend on anything crappy so it's good to read/share some spoilers/reviews online. I don't think forums and fans discussion affect anything during those days. Making profit depends on the quality of the work, they have to make people want to buy, not to click (easy) like right now. The standards back then are a lot more strict.

When Chinese Paladin hit in 2004, all the young actors were new. Paradise 2003 had many famous stars like Ada Choi, Yu Bo, Monica Chan, etc. but I didn't chose to rent that one. I only found out many years later that it was an ok show to watch, crappy CGI but still engaging. I chose to rent Chinese Paladin instead. Although the seniored actors at that time had very very strong foothold in the industry, the new actors in Chinese Paladin performed so well that they easily replaced seniored actors overnight. No wars. No jealousy things going on like, they're new, we're seniors, respect us, dadadadada....
The way things work back then is super different from now. Whoever is truly talented and creative wins, no hard feelings, as true artists passionate in the field, everyone wants to see amazing stuff produced. Not to see a bunch of crappy shits like right now.
Wallace Huo, Hu Ge, Liu Yifei, Yang Mi, Liu Shi Shi had experiences working with truly top notched and professional directors, I bet they have some knowledge about what makes great shows, but they just can't do anything these days cause they're not the producers and directors. Now, they're working with less competitive directors, it is just what it is. Not within their control. Antis will say stuff, label this actress and that actress super powerful and rich although they're actors only but they can still produce but they wouldn't dadadaaa... yeah right! Actors are actors and directors are directors. Everyone knows money generates from viewers now, not the old traditional physical cassette/cd selling anymore. People stream online, it's all about the clicks. After TJOF 2015, it's a little funny bc ZLY was actually not a new young actress but a person in the same age group but she found success much later than them because the competition to become famous in early 2000s is super cut throat hard! Only the best of the best make it back then. Some people don't know Chinese Paladin is also a Xianxia, because it was directed so much more seriously like a Wuxia. TJOF was the first Xianxia to rely on CGI more than usual, it's not the first Xianxia, it's only the first one to go extreme with CGI. It's also the first to disregard all the rules about what makes a script professional. Despite all the loopholes in the story, they market ZLY to the top and invented a new marketing technique that relies on public voices. The public says ZLY outperformed Wallace Huo, there she goes, becomes an A-lister overnight. Her fees suddenly surpassed all the seniors, this caused some disputes and everyone started raising their fees higher than hers to make it fair, after they raised theirs, she once again raised hers again to not fall behind from their level/status. She wants to be equal to them. Most budget goes into the actors pockets, starved the industry, until the government had to do a clean up recently. Since 2015, Cdramas have become so disastrous, not only directors being incompetent, actors also run into marketing wars. ZLY was able to get nominated for Bai Yulan due to TJOF, but after that, she no longer allow Xianxia for nominations again. Xianxia then gets labeled as "get famous fast" and "idol" roles and "non-serious" shows. Not qualifiable for prestigious awards like Bai Yulan again. Yang Mi and Yang Zi do not get draw into these prestigious recognitions for their dedications in TMOPB or AOL that came out later than TJOF. The Golden Eagle show's reputation was also ruined overnight because they didn't want YZ and DLRB to become new threats, they purposely threw ALL awards on DLRB to make it look bad on her when Golden Eagle distributes numerous awards and could have divided them between her and YZ, but they purposedly left YZ out to kill 2 birds with 1 stone. All the more, newer people like Esther Yu and Bai Lu will not see any recognition if they only got famous from a Xianxia, no matter how serious they shot the Xianxia, they will only be classified as some sort of lower tier stuff. It's really unfair. Even though Zhao Lusi got things like The Long Ballad and Love like Galaxy under her belt, they should be considered as those "serious" shows that are non Xianxia, she's still not qualify cause ZLY spent 5 years in support roles and others haven't suffer long enough like her to deserve what she has now. To get to the point, ZLY doesn't want anyone to replace her. Anyone new after the year 2015 all must start out as an "idol star" and there's no way skipping that stage, then to wash off that title, they must "suffer" many years first. I find those rules ridiculous. Just bc ZLY couldn't get famous at the same time as her age group, doesn't mean everyone new after 2015 need to do all those ridiculous things.
Like I said, even if Stephen Chow focused on comedy, his stuff are some of the most serious stuff ever. How the hell is Xianxia suddenly non-serious after 2015 is just ridiculous. How can someone become an A-lister, her salary surpassed seniors, and get selected for prestigious awards in 2015 because of a Xianxia, and then right after that, they shut down Xianxia and no longer allow it well reputable? It's ridiculous, this is obviously eliminating new talents that will become a threat to someone's popularity. The data proves how much people love Xianxia, but the water armies speak more that they hate Xianxia, it doesn't make sense! And to be honest, ZLY broke her contract with her agent He Ru in a fit of anger when he declined her to play in TJOF. Breaking contract like that means you'll have to pay yourself out of the contract, rich girls like Esther Yu can't even afford to do anything like that, not a small fortune, I don't know how in the world ZLY got herself out of that mess when she claims to be a poor girl. Somehow, Beijing Hairun Film Co transferred her 1.4187 million shares in 2015 and she became 14th largest shareholder of that agency. At the same time, Nicky Wu also transferred his company to his wife LSS but gives 1% of the shares from Strawbear at a price of 100,000 yuan to actress Zhao Liying, such a low price transfer is almost equivalent to a free gift. She doesn't even take care of those agencies like a baby the way YM had to care after the ill-reputed Jaywalk studio everyone spits at. If ZLY is just a business partner as rumored, LSS should be ZLY's friend but they are not friends at all. ZLY is known to hate YM and LSS reconnects with YM and they made the friendship very public. I think it explains a lot.
I don't think ZLY was any simple girl like everyone think when she starred TJOF. She is the first to rely completely on fans/public voices, fanwar culture became a thing since TJOF and they set all these standards according to how she wants to go up the ranks. I honestly don't like ZLY and her ways of marketing. About her being ignored by colleagues, it has always been like that because they didn't like how she drags down the industry. Recently she markets that YM makes others hate her, but even before that Weibo night she sat with YM, people in the industry have always avoided her. They're afraid of her so they wouldn't dare be rude, but people were always not interested being too close with her bc whoever does will go on hot search and they rather have a peaceful life. First, actors should not follow the stupid standards set by ZLY's water army and second, I want to bring back appreciation to Xianxia and recognize the hard work put into that type of art.
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