instability in relationships with others intense emotions, such as anger and low mood sudden shifts in self-image (regarding values or career plans, for example) impulsive and damaging behaviors, which can include substance misuse or impulsive spending self-harm and, for some people, suicidal thoughts or actions
thats exactly how i feel... they stretched it way too far... they should have atleast simultaneously showed her…
Self-hatred is also a symptom of many personality disorders, including borderline personality disorder, as well as mood disorders like depression. It can also be linked to guilt for someone's own actions that they view
Self-hatred is also a symptom of many personality disorders, including borderline personality disorder, as well as mood disorders like depression. It can also be linked to guilt for someone's own actions that they view as wrongful, e.g., survivor guilt.
****MANY PPL DON'T RECOGNIZE OR ACKNOWLEDGE IT. They don't seek help and self medicate with an inflicting of pain/self destructions *** denial....
Self-Loathing and Bipolar Disorder Most of us understand the basics of self-loathing. We all know people who have doubted themselves at some point in their lives and self-loathing is the extreme of that. People with bipolar disorder often hate themselves.
In other words, we believe we are worthless, incapable, and can’t succeed. We are angry because of our misery.
And, if it wasn’t bad enough that we believe it about ourselves, society reinforces that belief. We live in a society that very much dislikes open displays and/or discussions of anger.
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What is Observed as Bipolar Anger is Often Self-Loathing When the average person observes someone with bipolar who is angry, they assume the anger is directed at them. Angry people in our culture is looked upon as being bad. Anger is considered a negative emotion because we tend to classify emotions in this way. Adding moral judgement to feelings often creates more problems than it solves.
Since most people are uncomfortable with anger, they become anxious around angry people, considering them a threat. Add on our culture’s misconceptions about both bipolar disorder and anger and it’s unsurprising when negative outcomes occur.
A person in crisis is going to be perceived as bad, no help will be forthcoming, and that self-hatred will be reinforced. Those who witness the outburst often distances themselves from the person suffering. This further isolates an already desperate individual, often sinking them deeper into depression and preventing them from getting well.
The fact remains that most people don’t live with bipolar disorder. It is, thankfully, relatively uncommon, affecting about 4% of the population. Given America’s lack of mental health education, it isn’t remotely surprising that these ”misunderstandings” occur.
****If we are honest with ourselves, we must admit that these “misunderstandings” are purely due to our own ignorance, which is far to often due to not wanting to understand.***
An explanation ....not an excuse for her behavior. We'll see where it goes...if they build more on it and character growth
This at the end is a romcom with underlying issues...which they won't fully address because at the end it is a romcom.
Someone commented they were promised a romcom but got angst .....hahaha....
There is lot of funny moments. At the end this is a romcom and i know they won't fully address major mental health issues.
In run on. The ML is clearly on the spectrum like ParkGum character in reply 1988.
i had high hopes from this drama and i though jcw is finally going to be paired with someone who matches him well…
The character has told use she suffer from Self hatred
Self-hatred is also a symptom of many personality disorders, including borderline personality disorder, as well as mood disorders like depression. It can also be linked to guilt for someone's own actions that they view as wrongful, e.g., survivor guilt.
Does she think she has multiple personalities? Sorry, a name change doesn't make you a different person.... lolI…
She might. It can be anything....depressing....anxiety....bi-polar
There are soo many disorder....many ppl have mutiple.
My client is bi-polar...anxiety...mood disorder
she has said self hatred......many people will do self destruction....self inflicting pain.
Self-hatred is also a symptom of many personality disorders, including borderline personality disorder, as well as mood disorders like depression. It can also be linked to guilt for someone's own actions that they view as wrongful, e.g., survivor guilt.
The mind does crazy things.
Ppl can even give themselves amnesia to block out pain or trauma.
I Like the complexity of Kim ji won character. Only who had tried to be 'different' from usual himself, even if…
We are all complex.
I just watched monster calls....great movie.
We as people revert to lies...denial and pretend.....for whatever reasons...to avoid pain...
Many ppl who commit suicides appear to be happy go lucky.
"You merely wishing to end the pain, the monster said. Your pain. AN end to isolate you. It is the most human wish of all."
"Your mind will believe comforting lies while knowing the painful truth that make the lies necessary. And your mind will punish you for believing both."
- patrick ness
Self-hatred is also a symptom of many personality disorders, including borderline personality disorder, as well as mood disorders like depression. It can also be linked to guilt for someone's own actions that they view as wrongful, e.g., survivor guilt.
Are we supposed to feel pity for the FL or what? I am sincerely confused here. I really like the chemistry of…
I don't pity her. It is self inflicted. Self-hatred part of BPD. I posted articles/ links.
They won't fully address it...kdrama barely does....hopefully the writer can give them growth
I however emphasize.....i understand people like her...been her...been a 3rd person looking at someone like her...gave therapy to some like her.
I'm not sure if the writer will give us more... I'll wait to see
I cheered him on when he is able to vent out his anger and frustration.
She is not trying to linger and pull his strings. She returns the camera. Didn't give him more hope. Took the yelling...which she deserved. I appalled him for it. She is not doing it the right way. It was a coward jerk move. She avoids and ran away from confrontation. She is who she mentioned. A self hating coward.
My ex was a coward like her. We had a long relationship. He also ranaway and avoided confrontation. I became a better person from that experiences. He eventually apologized and a few years later it also brought him growth. I applaud him for it. We are still cool.
I watched the show bridgerton. Toxic relationship too...all of them.....they don't know how to communicate...and be open...
My fav. Scene was when the opera girl called out her lover. I cheered for her. That was not easy to do. She went back to him a few times before she told him off/ broke it.
They also were all flawed....at the end they didn't fully communicate their issues...but was just willing to accept it
The other two couples have more flaws, they have a bigger toxic relationship than the main leads. How is that…
I feel they are all flawed.
We seek to be loved and love.
We humans don't know nor understand how to do so....we have sooo many relationships books/advice...advice columns...ect...hahaha
I know few long lasting relationships.
I have given therapy to some. There is such a lack of communication...understanding and emphaty.
My friend is getting a divorce. It went from him loving her soo much and begging her to stay...to him having a cop at their house when she got her things.
When my ex and i broke up ( we were living together). He completely did a 180 and acted like i was a disease or something. Hahaha....i was the more mature one. It was easier for him to avoid and pretend i don't exist. He avoided and hiding/ running.
I didn't blame him for his coward behaviors. He eventually apologized months later. I in turn thank him for giving me a lesson and i had great growth and became a better person. Ffw 3 yrs later he confessed to me with full honestly he never had. I applaud him for his growth. Lol
. He confessed again his regrets ....not being grown up and not have his shit together and being a coward .We still communicate as friends
There is not an open...honest communication....
But that is relationship right? Hopefully ppl will learn and grow from it.
The most successful relationships i seen is when couple seek therapy before and during....couple therapy ans individuals therapy.
I'm not judging any of the characters and just enjoying it as is....well see if they give us more back story. I will the writer for characters growth....and reframe from more until more details ....flesh out
yeah i'm really enjoying the other 2 couples and am surprisingly invested in their stories considering how little…
I never said that is ok....or justify it.....i said this soo many times....it's an explanation but not an excuse....i have always said these things can be redeemable.
I'm telling people to be more open minded...compassionate to their plight. Trust me they bring their own self inflicted pain.
I'm more active on IG and have called out her behaviors....i have never excused it. But see human beings as redeemable. The whole story isn't done.
I don't need to fully like their behaviors all the time to enjoy the drama.
In good detectives...i was pissed at 1 of the character. But this situation is a different Because it involved death. I'm still not ok with what happen...but i can emphasize...i even seek to find my tolerance...and dig deeper into my understanding of the human psyche. I'm still not ok with what happened
My sister in law is in a toxic relationship. I was wicked judgy... i still don't get it...but i emphasize with her.
I don't agree with it....there is not growth.
I have asked her why....she has no explanation for me....
Those in glass houses ..shouldn't throw stone
I tell her so...but i will not alienate her and not listen. At the end it was her choice.....she chose to go back and chose to stay and be in that situation. She told me he has gotten better. Heck i even call him out. He had mental health issues and need meds ans therapy. At the end it is her choice.
I have always tell everyone I know...that it is ok to be alone....date yourself...love yourself....
Many ppl who have successful relationships are those in therapy before and during a relationship. A client i have have couple therapy and individual therapy. Even then they still have issues communicating properly. Also 2 ppl who are willing to try.
I never asked to excuse anyones behaviors.
EO clearly had issues. What she did is horrible and makes no sense to many. She said so...she is a horrible person with self hatred. You have to love yourself before you can understand to love someone else. She avoids confrontation....she has stories in her head with no confirmation from the other person. She wants that pain and self misery.
I'm not sure where the writer is going but we are missing more detail.
I cheered for him when he told het off and expressed his feelings.
I'm telling ppl to be compassionate and have some empathy.....these characters or even ppl have a lack of perspectives.
I sound like you 7 years ago....i couldn't emphasize....i had this ideal and will not bend nor understand ... until i was EO....i was the 3rd person looking at a person like EO....i had q hard time communicating and being honest. i then gain more experience in psychology classes....therapy...counseling....
I'm constantly learning more...accepting....being more compassionate.....
That does not mean i excuse anyone behaviors. I understand ppl better and help guide them with better tools. It is a daily battle.
But why watch something we don't enjoy? Why say the same thing ovet like a broken record? I had the same issues you had with EO foe the FL in reply 1997. I didn't fully give my analysis until i finished it through skimming. I also didn't relate to the character and the reasoning...but i emphasize....i didn't agree or relate....i also dropped it because of it. I didn't beat the dead house
*never forget about the guy talking/yelling at a pole*
"I just want to know who hurt him"
Many ppl don't have an explanation why. It is easier to avoid things. Pretend it didn't happen.
That is why ppl ghost ppl. Easier and it avoids confrontation.
What that song...someone i use to know....and Savage love * comes to mind
She has self-hatred. She is hiding and avoiding confrontation. It is easier to self inflicted herself than to deal with anything. She is a coward....
I cheered him on when he was able to let out that anger.
If you watch it just as is....
I find ppl don't have an open mind or emphaty to understand.
You don't always have to agree with the characters actions to agree.
She told us she has self hatred.
It is part of a disorder. I posted it on few comments.
Self destructions.
I hope the writer gives us more..
Self growth and better communication.
I'm not here to judge.
I am enjoying it. It makes me laugh...cry and have butterfly.
We are rule by our emotions.
It ia doing well on Netflix. Many ppl are enjoying their portrayal.
It won't be a cup for many....no drama will.
Enjoy it ...it gives you the feels. No need to justify
I dunno why some ppl linger and repeat thr same critque....when they don't enjoy it....if you don't get it...vibe/ click....
If it don't bring you joy...then it is pointless
Rating here to me is invalid.
You either enjoy (vibe/click) with a drama or you don't.
All good...no biggy....i like to only spend time on a drama forum i enjoy.
If it don't bring you joy (of watching) then there is no point/wasteful
Self hatred
Common challenges in BPD include:
instability in relationships with others
intense emotions, such as anger and low mood
sudden shifts in self-image (regarding values or career plans, for example)
impulsive and damaging behaviors, which can include substance misuse or impulsive spending
self-harm and, for some people, suicidal thoughts or actions
What is the point of her saying anything. She wanted it to be over.
BPD (self hatred/ mood)
problems with relationships (fears of abandonment; unstable relationships)
unstable emotions (frequent emotional ups and downs; high emotional sensitivity)
unstable identity (unclear sense of self; chronic feelings of emptiness)
impulsive and self-damaging behaviours (impulsive behaviour; self-injury or suicidal behaviour)
unstable thinking/cognition (suspiciousness; tendency to dissociate when under stress)2
I know it won't address it because it is a romcom at the end. They use have their foot in the water.
Run on don't fully address it either....but the ML is diff. On the spectrum.
DAN has trauma/anxiety and I'm sure other stuff too
This is a person's experience/ feeling with her self hatred
Self-hatred is also a symptom of many personality disorders, including borderline personality disorder, as well as mood disorders like depression. It can also be linked to guilt for someone's own actions that they view as wrongful, e.g., survivor guilt.
****MANY PPL DON'T RECOGNIZE OR ACKNOWLEDGE IT. They don't seek help and self medicate with an inflicting of pain/self destructions *** denial....
Self-Loathing and Bipolar Disorder
Most of us understand the basics of self-loathing. We all know people who have doubted themselves at some point in their lives and self-loathing is the extreme of that. People with bipolar disorder often hate themselves.
In other words, we believe we are worthless, incapable, and can’t succeed. We are angry because of our misery.
And, if it wasn’t bad enough that we believe it about ourselves, society reinforces that belief. We live in a society that very much dislikes open displays and/or discussions of anger.
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What is Observed as Bipolar Anger is Often Self-Loathing
When the average person observes someone with bipolar who is angry, they assume the anger is directed at them. Angry people in our culture is looked upon as being bad. Anger is considered a negative emotion because we tend to classify emotions in this way. Adding moral judgement to feelings often creates more problems than it solves.
Since most people are uncomfortable with anger, they become anxious around angry people, considering them a threat. Add on our culture’s misconceptions about both bipolar disorder and anger and it’s unsurprising when negative outcomes occur.
A person in crisis is going to be perceived as bad, no help will be forthcoming, and that self-hatred will be reinforced. Those who witness the outburst often distances themselves from the person suffering. This further isolates an already desperate individual, often sinking them deeper into depression and preventing them from getting well.
The fact remains that most people don’t live with bipolar disorder. It is, thankfully, relatively uncommon, affecting about 4% of the population. Given America’s lack of mental health education, it isn’t remotely surprising that these ”misunderstandings” occur.
****If we are honest with ourselves, we must admit that these “misunderstandings” are purely due to our own ignorance, which is far to often due to not wanting to understand.***
An explanation ....not an excuse for her behavior. We'll see where it goes...if they build more on it and character growth
This at the end is a romcom with underlying issues...which they won't fully address because at the end it is a romcom.
Someone commented they were promised a romcom but got angst
.....hahaha....
There is lot of funny moments. At the end this is a romcom and i know they won't fully address major mental health issues.
In run on. The ML is clearly on the spectrum like ParkGum character in reply 1988.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/9670
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/self-hatred
https://psychcentral.com/blog/bipolar-disorder-anger-and-self-loathing
Self-hatred is also a symptom of many personality disorders, including borderline personality disorder, as well as mood disorders like depression. It can also be linked to guilt for someone's own actions that they view as wrongful, e.g., survivor guilt.
There are soo many disorder....many ppl have mutiple.
My client is bi-polar...anxiety...mood disorder
she has said self hatred......many people will do self destruction....self inflicting pain.
Self-hatred is also a symptom of many personality disorders, including borderline personality disorder, as well as mood disorders like depression. It can also be linked to guilt for someone's own actions that they view as wrongful, e.g., survivor guilt.
The mind does crazy things.
Ppl can even give themselves amnesia to block out pain or trauma.
I just watched monster calls....great movie.
We as people revert to lies...denial and pretend.....for whatever reasons...to avoid pain...
Many ppl who commit suicides appear to be happy go lucky.
"You merely wishing to end the pain, the monster said. Your pain. AN end to isolate you. It is the most human wish of all."
"Your mind will believe comforting lies while knowing the painful truth that make the lies necessary. And your mind will punish you for believing both."
- patrick ness
Self-hatred is also a symptom of many personality disorders, including borderline personality disorder, as well as mood disorders like depression. It can also be linked to guilt for someone's own actions that they view as wrongful, e.g., survivor guilt.
They won't fully address it...kdrama barely does....hopefully the writer can give them growth
I however emphasize.....i understand people like her...been her...been a 3rd person looking at someone like her...gave therapy to some like her.
I'm not sure if the writer will give us more... I'll wait to see
I cheered him on when he is able to vent out his anger and frustration.
She is not trying to linger and pull his strings. She returns the camera. Didn't give him more hope. Took the yelling...which she deserved. I appalled him for it. She is not doing it the right way. It was a coward jerk move. She avoids and ran away from confrontation. She is who she mentioned. A self hating coward.
My ex was a coward like her. We had a long relationship. He also ranaway and avoided confrontation. I became a better person from that experiences. He eventually apologized and a few years later it also brought him growth. I applaud him for it. We are still cool.
I watched the show bridgerton. Toxic relationship too...all of them.....they don't know how to communicate...and be open...
My fav. Scene was when the opera girl called out her lover. I cheered for her. That was not easy to do. She went back to him a few times before she told him off/ broke it.
They also were all flawed....at the end they didn't fully communicate their issues...but was just willing to accept it
We seek to be loved and love.
We humans don't know nor understand how to do so....we have sooo many relationships books/advice...advice columns...ect...hahaha
I know few long lasting relationships.
I have given therapy to some. There is such a lack of communication...understanding and emphaty.
My friend is getting a divorce. It went from him loving her soo much and begging her to stay...to him having a cop at their house when she got her things.
When my ex and i broke up ( we were living together). He completely did a 180 and acted like i was a disease or something. Hahaha....i was the more mature one. It was easier for him to avoid and pretend i don't exist. He avoided and hiding/ running.
I didn't blame him for his coward behaviors. He eventually apologized months later. I in turn thank him for giving me a lesson and i had great growth and became a better person. Ffw 3 yrs later he confessed to me with full honestly he never had. I applaud him for his growth. Lol
. He confessed again his regrets ....not being grown up and not have his shit together and being a coward .We still communicate as friends
There is not an open...honest communication....
But that is relationship right? Hopefully ppl will learn and grow from it.
The most successful relationships i seen is when couple seek therapy before and during....couple therapy ans individuals therapy.
I'm not judging any of the characters and just enjoying it as is....well see if they give us more back story. I will the writer for characters growth....and reframe from more until more details ....flesh out
I'm telling people to be more open minded...compassionate to their plight. Trust me they bring their own self inflicted pain.
I'm more active on IG and have called out her behaviors....i have never excused it. But see human beings as redeemable. The whole story isn't done.
I don't need to fully like their behaviors all the time to enjoy the drama.
In good detectives...i was pissed at 1 of the character. But this situation is a different
Because it involved death.
I'm still not ok with what happen...but i can emphasize...i even seek to find my tolerance...and dig deeper into my understanding of the human psyche. I'm still not ok with what happened
My sister in law is in a toxic relationship. I was wicked judgy... i still don't get it...but i emphasize with her.
I don't agree with it....there is not growth.
I have asked her why....she has no explanation for me....
Those in glass houses ..shouldn't throw stone
I tell her so...but i will not alienate her and not listen. At the end it was her choice.....she chose to go back and chose to stay and be in that situation. She told me he has gotten better. Heck i even call him out. He had mental health issues and need meds ans therapy. At the end it is her choice.
I have always tell everyone I know...that it is ok to be alone....date yourself...love yourself....
Many ppl who have successful relationships are those in therapy before and during a relationship. A client i have have couple therapy and individual therapy. Even then they still have issues communicating properly. Also 2 ppl who are willing to try.
I never asked to excuse anyones behaviors.
EO clearly had issues. What she did is horrible and makes no sense to many. She said so...she is a horrible person with self hatred. You have to love yourself before you can understand to love someone else. She avoids confrontation....she has stories in her head with no confirmation from the other person. She wants that pain and self misery.
I'm not sure where the writer is going but we are missing more detail.
I cheered for him when he told het off and expressed his feelings.
I'm telling ppl to be compassionate and have some empathy.....these characters or even ppl have a lack of perspectives.
I sound like you 7 years ago....i couldn't emphasize....i had this ideal and will not bend nor understand ... until i was EO....i was the 3rd person looking at a person like EO....i had q hard time communicating and being honest. i then gain more experience in psychology classes....therapy...counseling....
I'm constantly learning more...accepting....being more compassionate.....
That does not mean i excuse anyone behaviors. I understand ppl better and help guide them with better tools. It is a daily battle.
But why watch something we don't enjoy? Why say the same thing ovet like a broken record? I had the same issues you had with EO foe the FL in reply 1997. I didn't fully give my analysis until i finished it through skimming. I also didn't relate to the character and the reasoning...but i emphasize....i didn't agree or relate....i also dropped it because of it. I didn't beat the dead house
I still enjoy the drama....it haf lots of heartfelt moments