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Replying to Lmorgan0220 • 6 days ago
I’ve been thinking about Dream of the Red Chamber a lot watching this! I’ve started the novel then got sidetracked…
It was the genesis of Chinese family soap opera cum social commentary genre. All of these kinds of dramas - Story of Minglan, The Rise of Ning, Road to Splendor etc etc etc pay tribute to it. It is the story Fan Xian allegedly wrote/plagiarized in JOL.
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Replying to chotoranii • 6 days ago
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Thank you!! Is a translated version available easily?
Lol - enjoy - there's an eye opening amount of homosexual content in there too!!!
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess • 6 days ago
Well it is going to be difficult to write that kind of story set in this kind of feudal society. Unless they are…
Yups rules that led to tragedy.
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Replying to Lmorgan0220 • 6 days ago
I’ve been thinking about Dream of the Red Chamber a lot watching this! I’ve started the novel then got sidetracked…
No worries - enjoy. I saved the link bc I always mean to watch it but I had to read the novel for my Chinese classes and I still have PTSD.
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Replying to chotoranii • 6 days ago
Thank you!! Is a translated version available easily?
For sure and I have a soft spot for Minford as he has translated some of my favorite Jin Yong novels very well; a whole lot better than that atrocious air-headed English woman. But he over explains and meanders off and his language is wordy and not how the original is written. As you know, Chinese is very economical with words and to the point - it is a language that says a lot by saying very little. In recent years I find I much prefer the new generation of Chinese translators who are able to capture the beauty of the prose in its simplicity. But yes, of course to Western readers who don't know the culture all those old school Wiles Gades dudes are more helpful bc they over explain and over interpret everything.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess • 6 days ago
I have the exact same issue with how in one of the dynasties that most strictly segregated men from women this…
100pct!!!
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess • 6 days ago
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The truth is LXY was like nah, I have a bad back from carrying MZY in Princess Gambit. I am done with this carrying…
Yes he was the villain Hao Chen. It was his most delicious role.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess • 6 days ago
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And with Du Cuique still alive, I guess we will see how much more... I must admit I am not looking forward to…
I agree even though I think Cuique is the more interesting character. In many ways, she is more like Lanxiang - military class is by itself is barely a step above - it is indentured servitude in nicer clothes. So her grudge is more understandable. The problem is I don't like ZHHZ's acting in that role, she is not good at villain roles. She overacts and more critically she failed to make Cuique empathetic.
Xingtang is the complete opposite. She has enough money to have free will and agency. She could have made her marriage work and she still can just disappear if she so chooses but it seems she still chooses her status and power every time. The difference is Li Meng's acting is so good that somehow she makes Xingtang empathetic. I think these two roles were miscast. Li Meng should have played Cuique and ZHHZ Xingtang.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess • 6 days ago
I am gonna say there seems to be a trend!And tyvm my friend. Idk why I am getting this notification 5 days later…
Their internet was down, so it went snail mail instead.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess • 6 days ago
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I feel the embezzlement case was too easily resolved. There has to be more to it.
And with Du Cuique still alive, I guess we will see how much more...
I must admit I am not looking forward to a comeback - neither Cuique nor Xingtang. I think once a character's arc has peaked they should just exit left stage. I don't like resurrections.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess • 6 days ago
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The truth is LXY was like nah, I have a bad back from carrying MZY in Princess Gambit. I am done with this carrying…
I first saw him as a villain in Love and Redemption. He was so hot hateful I found him so much more interesting than the main leads.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess • 6 days ago
She has gotten some terrific non-idol drama roles since TBOY working with serious actors like Qin Han where her…
Yeah its hard to notice side characters in a movie. Those are all about the leads.
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Replying to chotoranii • 6 days ago
Thank you!! Is a translated version available easily?
Yes indeed - it is one of the ancient classics, translated by some of the best translators out there. Its a super long novel and I only sampled parts of the two famous English translations - one is by David Hawkes and John Minford and the other by Yang and Yang. I personally prefer the Yang and Yang version bc I think Hawkes and Minford are too long winded. But I think if you don't understand Chinese culture and history the Minford translation is better. But please be aware its not an easy read - it is thousands of pages long, much longer than The Count of Monte Cristo😅 . Maybe go for an abridged version.
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Replying to bzaaaet • 6 days ago
Yes! I was thinking that as well, Dong Jie was so pretty in Secrets of the Three Kingdom 😍
Oh that's a pity. I have only seen parts of it - my folks watched it.
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Replying to sony_t • 6 days ago
Great review as always, darling. Another drama where I found the women much more interesting than the men despite…
I am gonna say there seems to be a trend!
And tyvm my friend. Idk why I am getting this notification 5 days later - MDL is glitching!🤡
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Replying to Sweetreat • 6 days ago
Will the ML figure out her identity before they end up married?
Yes there is a novel that I haven't read either.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess • 6 days ago
Ironically, the Jiaofangsi (教坊司), or the Imperial Music Bureau, where the women were meant to be sent was…
Yes he well knew their fate. And I don't think its about loyalty - he just stood by his advice. It was factually true that the regional princes had too much power and could usurp the throne. Which is exactly what happened. But now that the former regional prince is on the throne, it is still in his interest to curb the power of the remaining regional princes.
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Replying to Queen Love • 6 days ago
Hello there👋
Hello... idk why I am only now getting notifications from 7 days ago. MDL is glitching.
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