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Replying to Soocrafty • 11 days ago
I remember the flashback to their wedding night. She flat out rejected him and was not very kind to him. I think…
I think definitely it was Zhao trying to grind him into dust. He told his grandpa he expects it though.
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Replying to Kokuto • 11 days ago
According to the character chart ... He has one full sister. He has two half sisters and one half brother. He…
Chinese names have 3 characters - surname, generation name and given name*. So Xiu is the female generation name and Jin in the male generation name and in loose informal setting they just refer to each other as brothers and sisters. But when specificity is needed they would be differentiated as tóngbāo xiōngmèi/同胞兄妹(full siblings; Xiushu); shù xiōngmèi/庶兄妹 (siblings from concubines; Jinlan, Xiulai, Xiuru), táng mèi/ 堂妹 (paternal younger cousin sister; Xiuwan) etc
*Post 1980s most Chinese names only have 2 characters bc of the one child policy. Just surname and given name, no more generation names.
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Replying to Soocrafty • 11 days ago
I remember the flashback to their wedding night. She flat out rejected him and was not very kind to him. I think…
Yeah I wonder whether the Zhaos did this bc they needed him. Despite Grandpa Zhao's power and influence, they seem short of male talent - Xingtang's dad and bro seem to be useless sacks of flesh. So they recruited Jinqi who was a talented scholar to help build up their influence in the court. But he refused to be their puppet and went the army route instead.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess • 11 days ago
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I think he immediately understood his sisters intentions when he saw the flower pin and he got angry when he realized…
Yeah I initially was thinking along those lines also but then I realized he saw the flower pin on Jinqi's hat from the get go. He of all people must know his sister's name means larkspur and understand what it means. The fact that he said nothing and went along with it all suggests to me he may have been in on it. Otherwise, he would have quietly asked Jinqi to remove it before it became a thing.
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Replying to mochachen • 11 days ago
Miss Du right?? She is the new villiainess! I feel like she's a harder evil boss to kill than ml's ex wife. Since…
Ms Du discovered her court ambitions were misguided. This was Ming dynasty, a terrible time for female officials. The founding emperor codified the Six Bureaus giving a career path for female officials in palace administration. But from the reign of the Yongle emperor, which is Zhu Di, the sitting emperor in this drama, the eunuchs took over. Almost all of the administrative, document handling and secretarial duties were shifted to the eunuchs. Female officials were reduced to ceremonial roles - they just became seal bearers or more or less palace vases. So Ms Du's ambitions went nowhere, that was what Madame Qin was alluding to. So her best option was to marry as well as she could but first of all at 19 she is aging out and she is of military lineage - so not good enough to be legitimate wife of the first young master of a noble family like Lin Jinqi.
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Replying to Soocrafty • 11 days ago
I remember the flashback to their wedding night. She flat out rejected him and was not very kind to him. I think…
I think everyone over estimates the ability of the Lins to bail out the Shens. The Lins barely got out by the skin of their own teeth and had to retreat from the capital back to Jinling. Grandpa Lin is retired with no official post and Jinqi is the highest rank Lin after clawing his way up to 4th rank in the army. His father is only 7th ranked. The Shen men knew it was coming so the young Jinqi's naive intention of warning them wasn't really needed, it just shows his heart was in the right place.
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Replying to Davdav11 • 11 days ago
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I think she was helping Lady Du. She seemed join hand to force a marriage of her brother, ML and Lady Du. Anyway…
Who are you talking about? The 2nd Young Lady Lin is Xiuwan, the one who is supposed to be engaged with Xie Zhao.
I think you mean Xiuru, the timid 3rd Young Lady Lin. She is the daughter of a deceased concubine so she has no power or standing in the household. Maybe that makes her susceptible to influence by Ms Du.
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Replying to Terra1000 • 11 days ago
I watched the flower pin scene again. What games are the lads playing, Is it some kind of word play competition?…
Yeah word play is very common and popular throughout Chinese history. It is a combination of a long scholarly culture and a long history of censorship. Scholars like to "modestly" show off the depth of their knowledge and sophistication by engaging in poetry and word play competitions. Also openly criticizing the emperor can get you killed so they use a lot of metaphor and homonyms to seem to say one thing when they are really saying something else. It is still very prevalent and relevant in today age.

In that particular scene, they are playing a drinking game where they have to match medical herb names with lines from the Four Books and Five Classics, which are the foundational canonical texts of Confucianism. Obviously you have to be a highly educated person to be able to play this game. It would be very laborious and time consuming to translate this word game properly so that non-native speakers can understand it so I suspect WeTV just did a literal translation and left it at that. I am not well versed enough in those classical texts (boring) with so many archaic words to do it well. Even though I have come across and had to memorize some of the more famous lines, I have never come close to reading the Analects, Mencius or the Book of Rites etc in full.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess • 11 days ago
Hey glad to see you here. She is stealing the show but yes, hopefully she gets different roles going forward.
That is so true. No one wants to take risks bc of the deep drama downturn.
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Replying to Big_Red_1011 • 11 days ago
Her name is Zheng He Hui Zi (or ZHHZ 🙂) and she was in 2024 drama In Blossom where she played the “before”…
From her billing, it looks like ZHHZ has a bigger role.
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Replying to Big_Red_1011 • 11 days ago
Her name is Zheng He Hui Zi (or ZHHZ 🙂) and she was in 2024 drama In Blossom where she played the “before”…
I don't really like her performance here but I preferred her to the FL in In Blossom. I guess it goes to show she is a much better actress than JJY but she is way outshone by Li Meng here.
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Replying to Megumi-H • 11 days ago
I started this late and in ep. 8, so ML originally does want to love his appointed wife. How come actress Li Meng…
Hey glad to see you here. She is stealing the show but yes, hopefully she gets different roles going forward.
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Replying to Big_Red_1011 • 11 days ago
MDL should follow Tencent/Viki cast list. it has the two leads then Niu Jun Feng, Li Meng, Zheng He Hui Zi, and…
Yes of course her acting is good but the character as portrayed is one note. I guess for such a famous actor I had expected more. But maybe the script doesn't give her much to work with.
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Replying to Big_Red_1011 • 11 days ago
MDL should follow Tencent/Viki cast list. it has the two leads then Niu Jun Feng, Li Meng, Zheng He Hui Zi, and…
I know Guo Keyu is a highly regarded actor but I find her weepy performance as Lanxiang's mom annoying.
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Replying to EREN JAEGEr • 11 days ago
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Du sister seems suspicious. But her brother i think unaware about his sister intention
I think he immediately understood his sisters intentions when he saw the flower pin and he got angry when he realized Jinqi was not going to go along with it. Just from his face.
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Replying to Swizzleberry • 12 days ago
Lin Xiuru knows something is up with Du Cui Que. She's quiet but perceptive - she noticed how Cui Que ignored…
I have the impression she is helping Cuique. She is timid bc she is the daughter of a concubine and has not much status in the household. I think she is second master Lin Jinlan's full sister. The siblings are up to something.
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Replying to JJJ • 12 days ago
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Xie Zhao was originally wearing the teal outfit and the blossom flowers. The servant told Xiuwan that so when…
Yeah the consistent message of this drama is it sucked big time to be a woman during Ming dynasty!
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess • 12 days ago
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He should be the ML's brother from a different mother, his father's (deceased) concubine and therefore not a legitimate…
That said, there was no way for all the men present to know Ms Du's given name was Cuique, it was actually third bro Lin that blurted it out and second bro tried to shush him.
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Replying to Chanchan • 12 days ago
Someone said ML's cousin was also undercover villain and had purposefully set up the wordgame/medicinal plants…
He should be the ML's brother from a different mother, his father's (deceased) concubine and therefore not a legitimate son.
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Replying to tutu_91 • 12 days ago
Aside from the scheming Lady Du, I think Ep 11 introduced an undercover villain who might potentially have a bigger…
Yes he totally has motive, means and opportunity! He is Jinqi's half brother - his father's dead concubine's son.
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