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Now that the drama has ended and this post is buried. I will tell what I thought. I do agree with the take a ways that other posters have said. However, if you look at the last scene all of the important men died or is dying. The women celebrate no longer having men in their lives. They are free to do whatever they want with no male interference.

The main female who started with no man, didn't want a man, ended getting a man, but he is dying. Again, men aren't necessary to have a happy life. jmo

You're right. There is something that they haven't told us. The queen dowager, the blind shaman, and the king have all hinted at something that went down on Mount Babluk? Remember the opening scene is of a massacre happening in a village. An army in red uniforms comes in and kills all the people. It is that night that Kang Cheol tries to ascend and fails because he is seen by a child (who looks like a little girl).

When Yeo Ri sets up an exorcism for the crown prince on Mt. Babluk(sp?), she says something to the effect that the spirit is coming from that location. The queen dowager used the 8 ft. creature to try and kill off the crown prince. But once she smelled it, realized she wanted no part of it. So the blind shaman called her a chicken and conjured it up again to take the Grand Prince as his revenge. Someone called the Elder is calling the shots with the blind shaman.

Remember that KYK is only the physical manifestation of Kang Cheol's spirit. Once Yun Gap's spirit comes back and reclaims it's body, Kang Cheol will have earned his strips to ascend. Thus he will turn into a dragon again.

So the end four things could happen: Yeo Ri will stay with Yoon Gap as himself. Yeo Ri will stay with Kang Cheol as Yoon Gap. Kang Cheol will go back to heaven and Yeo Ri will remain single and become a famous shaman (after she has talked with Yoon Gap of course). Yeo Ri will ascend with Kang Cheol. In Chinese dramas the fourth one would happen. In Korean dramas they could with either of the first two. jmo

You're right. Kang Cheol does need to help Yeo Ri get rid of the 8ft. creature as it is too powerful for her alone, but I don't think Yoon Gap set that up. Someone or something interfered with his ascension. Why because there is more that he needs to do in order to ascend.

The fantasy genre is all about redemption. Kang Cheol has made Yeo Ri's life miserable, he must redeem himself in her eyes, so that she will willing help him ascend. Helping her get back her first love would go a long way to achieving that goal.

For me, this story seems like the mortal trial of two heavenly beings as we don't know why Kang Cheol has been on earth for a 1000 years. Also, why he attached himself to Yeo Ri when he could have had any shaman help him. jmo

That's the point. It didn't seem like the father would love another woman also but yet he did. This drama is all about going against traditions and the tropes of historical dramas. However, the writers are still catering to the same old tropes.

For me, it seems like they are playing the traditional higher status, lower status love trope. She will become worthy of being the official wife through her virtuous deeds and the blessings of the emperor. A poster wrote that she wore the official wife wedding dress, so in his eyes she is already the official wife. Also, the other concubine greets her every morning and serves her tea like a main wife. So they are already breaking with tradition. I don't think concubines have that kind of status.

Thank you for the friend request and for the discussion. I am looking forward to season two. Happy drama watching.

It is because of the concubine situation. We are waiting to see if JCY is like his dad. Remember his father was suppose to have the love affair of the ages. It was written in stories, but the truth was that the father loved someone else, not JCY's mother. Will JCY be like his father and begin to love the second concubine?

Both our main characters experienced some very rough love affairs. Mu Dan, one of her own making, and JCY with his father and mother.

Just remember who he was mad at, Yoon Gap's mother. Someone Yeo Ri loves and cares for. Yeo Ri already hates him because she thinks he kills everyone she loves. If he would have hurt YG's mother, it would be over for him to get her to help him ascend.

The palace guards were trying to capture him that is why he allowed his light to shine on them. jmo

You have to ask did he really lie to her or just withhold some information. Remember Yeo Ri does not like to be known as a shaman as all it has ever done is cause her misery and heartache. However, she does have a soft spot for spirits, except Kang Cheol's. If Yoon Gap had told her exactly what he wanted, would she have gone to the capital with him? He knows her best. Even though she is an eye-ware maker, she still comfortably takes on spirits without hesitation as she does not like to see them suffer once she hears their story. Yeo Ri wants every spirit to be able to cross over and stop wandering.

When he asked her to go, he understood what she hates most about herself, that she is a shaman and good one at that. What better way to help someone like who they are by letting them help innocent children (crown prince) and the well spirit. Once she has cleared the palace of spirits, the king should recognize her good deed, and this should help her accept herself for what she is, a shaman. jmo

Just finished season 2 and must say that this season is the strongest of the two. It had a clear social message. Loved the chemistry between Si Eun and Su Ho.

Of the two seasons, I felt season 1 was the strongest. This season felt like I was watching the Hollywood movie The Outsiders, especially at the end with the rumble and Si Eun had brass knuckles.

My problem with the story is that the protagonist is suppose to be smart, but he didn't think to check that there may be someone behind Na Baek Jin. What did those students really accomplish as at the end Seong-je just took over where Na Baek Jin left off. The cycle continues.

Yes, but we don't know why they were banned. I am assuming it has something to do with what happened on Mount B? (I don't remember the name.) However, Yun Gap is the king's advisor. The king would know Yun Gap's personality, and the Yun Gap who helped him with his son and looked at the proposal has a very different personality.

The king knows that Yeo Ri is a shaman, but doesn't kill her why? He just bans Yun Gap and her from the capital for the time being. They will be asked back in order to take care of the 8 ft. spirit.jmo

Yes, it has been difficult to wait to see how they will play out the drama. Will they do the same drama tropes or really go for a total upset?

It depends on what you mean by punishment. Were they made to pay back the dowry that they stole from her, not yet. However, Liu Chang, the son, has started his revenge on them by playing mind games with them.

I understand where you are coming from. It is a little hard to take, especially after Mu Dan is very supportive of her. Just remember though that Mu Dan grew up in household where she was loved and respected as a person. She was taught a skill to earn money. Sheng Yi, on the other hand, has only known abuse from her parents and her husband. When you grow up like that you are bound to feel like other people are better than you, and you have no right to feel happy. The girl needs many years of therapy. Unfortunately, therapy wasn't around at that time.

Also, she hasn't been away from her abusive husband for long. Old habits, patterns of behavior, and thought patterns die hard. Her feeling of being worthless is not going to go away overnight just because someone is nice to her .The martial arts girl grew up much like Mu Dan. She also has a clear sense of who she is. Sheng Yi doesn't really have a strong idea of who she is except that she is everyone's punching bag.

Hope this helps. Happy drama watching.

This whole drama is about making abstract ideas concrete. The tornadoes show us that he not just angry, but irate. In most kdramas when they show anger they show a clinched fist. The dragon is used to not being disciplined or called out for his behavior. This is what makes him so mad. It is used for comic effect like shraddhasingh wrote.

Another example is Kang Cheol. When he loses his dragon body, he became a spirit. Kim Young Kwang was the concrete or physical manifestation of Kang Cheol's spirit. He loses that look when he pops into Yun Gap. The spirit looks like whatever it goes into. This is why you see two Yun Gap's after he dies. You see his physical body and his spirit body.

The stone that Yeo Ri has to protect her from Kang Cheol when she is younger loses its power once she accepts him. The stone represents her anger towards him and protects her from him. That is what fantasy is all about making abstract ideas concrete.

Hope this helps. Happy drama watching.

Don't know if I will be able to watch it as I don't get that channel. We will see. Happy drama watching!

Yes, in most dramas "love" causes people to do evil things. I have only watched one episode of this drama and put it on hold as I am already watching something with Liu Shi Shi in it. I'll pick it up again after I finish watching Kill My Sins.

I think I found it interesting that there was only one man to all these women after watching the Chinese drama The Glory where I got a very different reaction than most viewers.

Yes, but in most fantasy dramas falling in love is a calamity. Why would you put yourself through that torture?

What do you mean by sad? If you mean does everyone die in the end, then no. It is a very happy ending. Will there be some tough moments along the way to the ending, then yes.

If you consider MY and YH's father as the king of gods rather than the father of the gods, then yes Mo Yuan would be considered a prince. My interpretation was that the father of the gods had not been the emperor like Hao De.

Like Cronus (father) of Zeus, who becomes king of gods. Cronus was the father of the gods, but was not the king of the gods. So technically, Zeus would not be prince.

But I see where your interpretation could be correct as well. Ye Hua, on the other hand, could be considered a prince as he was born to the crown prince just like you said, but Mo Yuan never considered himself as prince. He is always refer to as the god of war. jmi