Platinum Fox

Sandra Dee, the entire drama is based on appearance vs. reality. A concept found in Shakespeare's comedies. The main female lead is 18/19. She is a mature woman who has been married and very well versed in the ways of womanhood. She has taken on the identity of a person who was pure, innocent, 15, and raised in a nunnery since she was five. None of her family came to visit her, so if she went back to the family they wouldn't know her. XFF pulls off being this 15 year old because she has something that will identify her as the daughter of Jiangs. However, everyone who knew XFF knows that it is her.

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I agree with you, but what was your personal take away from the drama? I have my own ideas and was wondering if people saw the same thing I did.

I am curious to know what posters think the central message of this drama is.

Do all period pieces like this have sadistic, obsessive males? Every one I have attempted to watch this theme appears within the first episode.

Me too, I've heard Meet Yourself is good. I will have to watch it as many people recommend it. I'm not a modern love story person as I feel most of them are really childish. Thank you for the recommendation.

Even though many people think it is geared towards youth (and to a certain extent it is) , for me, it is geared towards every age group, especially parents as the writers want them to talk with their children (teens in particular) about some of these topics, bullying, getting an education, pedophilia (and age of consent), grooming, etc. What do these look like? jmo

Unfortunately this is an open ended ending. Some people say that he is dead and others say that he is alive. There are things that suggest both.

You are very welcome. I'm glad that you enjoyed both dramas as they are complementary of each other. TFF is the manifestation of the issues found in this drama.

I apologize as with conversation it sounded like you had watched all of The Glory with your mention of the blue clothes in a post below. The ending here is also very open ended.

I apologize for the confusion about the name. I changed the initials around, but sounded like you had already watched the entire drama of The Glory. Sorry if I spoiled anything for you.

ZSY became the adopted son of PDF three years ago when he inherited the mansion he lives in now. This is stated when the entire family and the 10 other men's families are held hostage in the hall. Even if he became the adopted son at the time the grandfather was killed, he obviously still had all his reproductive organs as ZHY would have been conceived nine months before that. Since he passed inspection, they either just removed his testicles or didn't do it at all for the purpose that you mentioned.

So yes, I agree with you, there was no castration done. This tall tale was told to create the image that PDF was very powerful even more powerful than the emperor. It was why he needed to be taken out as he was planning a rebellion. This is all said before episode 17.

Yes, XH dying at the end would have made sense for the way I interpreted The Double. However, I made it work with the ending they gave.

My interpretation is that XH had to die as the whole drama is the opposite of LLtG. With the ending they gave, it was a punishment for XFF going far above what she needed to for her revenge. So it works both ways.

Lee Hae Ah, I agree with you, the color of clothing that each of the people are wearing is significant. The mother and Han Yan are wearing white. The concubine and her daughter, and the little girl are wearing red. The dead people are wearing blue. However, blue can also mean healing, so for him to wear blue is appropriate because he is healing from the poison. But we also know that he could die at any time. One poster wrote that he is living on borrowed time.

Notice there are two people missing on the dead side, the grandpa and the first daughter. On the living side, only the grandmother is missing. You have to ask why are they missing from the picture.

You also might enjoy The Tale of Arang. It is not about vampires, but ghosts. There do not seem to be many historical vampire stories, but quite a few modern ones. Tales of the Tang Dynasty might interest you as well.

Thank you for the name lesson. Yes, I think you're right about Pei Da Fu (PDR) and his "family". For me, the tale of PDF making his loyal members eunuchs seems to be for comic relief. I found it quite hilarious and ludicrous. The image this creates suggests that PDF was saying that he was equal and even more powerful than the emperor as he could get men to willing castrate themselves for him. Whereas the emperor needs to rely on slaves and criminals for his eunuchs. jmo

On a side note: castration does not necessarily mean the removal of all the male reproductive genitalia. Most of the time it means the removal of a man's testicles. No man (not even the eunuchs themselves) would willing submit to the removal of all their genitalia. This is why the punishment for serious crimes resulted in men becoming eunuchs.

Thank you for the discussion.

Watch Lost You Forever (Chinese) if you want vampires in royalty. Also, watch The Scholar Who Walks at Night (Korean)

I'm glad that you enjoyed both dramas. I couldn't get into The First Frost. I watched the first four episodes to get some answers that I had from Hidden Love. Modern dramas and I don't mix. I only watched this one because of Zhao Lu Si. At first I wrote it off as a fluffy simple love story, but then I realized so much more was going on in the drama.

I only read eight chapters and I can say I now understand some of the "negative" comments that are on here.

That's okay, she is not everyone's favorite. Don't force yourself.

Fairhelen, I haven't read the entire novel and do not even know if the novel has only 85 chapters. I have seen some that have over 300. So, this is just to get you started. I am sure there are others out there, but this one happen to be in the discussion post.

Bai Ying Hua, it seems that you missed some of the drama. Yu Wen Chang had the 11 gentlemen who were suspects of being Pei Da Fu's adopted son checked. They all past inspection.

Also, I think you don't understand what being a eunuch or castration means.