It all goes back to the opening scene. Why were the people in that village being massacred and who did the person in red with silver beads save? The child who was saved was the one who saw Gang Cheol ascend.
The 8 ft creature looks like the guy who saves the child. He is dressed in clothes that have those silver beads on it. He must have been a general as they keep calling him the celestial general. The crown prince says the 8ft creature is sad. We don't know why it is sad.
Yes, this is where the story has gone weak. However, she has been preoccupied with her feelings towards Gang Cheol. Also, she may not even remember running into the blind shaman and hasn't put the two things together yet. Remember she is just now starting to use her shaman powers and think like a shaman.
Also, the story would be over in the next couple of episodes instead of 16. Have to draw it out. Give the blind shaman a sense of invincibility, so he will slip up. Even the audience knows who the real villain is, the characters don't. The king was about to tell us what happened 13 years ago and why he became king instead the queen dowager's kid.
I’ve seen so many mindless people defending Beomseok in Instagram reels and comment sections, so I’m rewatching…
Rose, there are a number of reasons why Beok Seom (BS) did what he did to Suho. First Suho took away his first and only friend. BS was bullied at his old school. Si Eun was getting bullied at his school. They become friends because they have something in common, being bullied. Now along comes someone who is tough, has no money, and doesn't get bullied. He protects the two, but BS' friend starts to admire this person. Being the insecure person that he is, BS becomes jealous. The final straw is when the girl comes into the picture (through Si Eun). Now BS has to compete against two people for Si Eun's attention. He felt discarded like a piece of tissue paper. People who have been beaten all their lives try to hang on to what they have. Even though it isn't true, BS felt he was losing the one person who had made him feel like an actual human being. Flourished Peony, a Chinese drama, plays this concept out really well, except with women.
Also, his entire life his father has told him to strike back at the people who bully him. The father even gives him an opportunity to do this, but BS doesn't do it because he really wasn't being bullied by that person. I am talking about the guy the three of them take down. He does a good deed, but his dad still isn't happy with him and beats him some more. When BS finally has a chance to strike back at the people who bullied him at his other school, SH stops him. SH makes the choice for him just like his dad makes all of his choices for him.
The final straw is SH does bully BS and says he is pathetic and a loser when he joins the other side. This is the final straw because his father does the same thing. SuHo makes him feel worthless, just like his father makes him worthless. Since he can't beat up his father, BS takes out all his frustrations on the one person who resembles his father, Suho.
Now is this justified? Depends on whose admiration you are trying to seek. When BS finally does strike back, shouldn't his dad be proud of him? He is doing the very thing his father has taught him through words and actions. However, the consequences are BS crosses a line, but who could blame him after years of abuse from being bullied at school, being abused by his father, and being taught that I will only be proud of and love you when you fight back.
We really don't know if Beom Seok would take responsibility for his actions because again, his father, who has power and influence, steps in and makes the decision to send him overseas. When will all this stop? When the people who perpetrated it take responsibility for their actions. Something the rich and powerful in these dramas don't do.
Beok Seom is a tragic figure. He shouldn't be hated or pitied. He should be looked upon as the consequences or product of his environment. Change the belief system and the environment and the consequences will change. jmo
Rebirth/revenge dramas are in trend now so we'll see them often though I quite enjoyed this one. Especially the…
I have to disagree with you. You need to give credit to Love Like the Galaxy (2022). Everything from the abused child, the loveless mother, to getting revenge on the "father" is all from LLtG. Also, the ending scene where all the main characters are lined up comes from LLtG as well. Many of the themes found in this drama are also in LLtG. The main one being women earning their independence from men.
The Double did the same thing. It copied straight from LLtG. One commenter on The Double even went as far as asking if The Double was a remake of LLtG. So you know that LLtG had a strong influence on it. jmo
I still haven't watched season 2 but I have a question: Why is Beiqi's emperor is a female actress? Is it part…
You weren't the only one who noticed this. Several of us have and want to know the answer as well. The funny thing about it is that everyone in the drama considers her a guy.
Yeo Ri saw a vision of her, a daughter and Gap. Now, unless the imoogi remains in Gap's body, I believe she will…
For this to happen Yoon Gap would have to return to his own body and Kang Cheol would either be a spirit or dragon depending on if the heavens deem him worthy of ascension.
But let's do something really funny and have Kang Cheol stay in Yoon Gap's body, put Yoon Gap's body in the little girl, and Yeo Ri is herself. Or have Yoon Gap return to his body and Kang Cheol becomes the little girl.
I understand, I wanted si eun. to beat the shit out of Beom seok.
Yes, because Si Eun felt guilty for not trying to stop or even help Baek Seom when he switched over to the other party. A party that was made up of rich boys. Remember Baek Seom is part of the powerful elite as his dad is a congressman. However, he is the lowest in status within that group (he's weak). Money buys him power and control over people. He could pay someone to beat up Su Ho instead of doing it himself (which he couldn't because he is too weak). Baek Seom's dad was trying to "toughen" him up when Baek Seom didn't take revenge for himself. In the second season Baek Seom haunts Si Eun because Si Eun could take the easy way out and go study overseas (mom was very willing to do this). However, Si Eun knew he couldn't because that would make him just like the rich and powerful who could just run away from their problems instead of solving/facing them. Si Eun is willing to take responsibility for his actions whereas the rich and powerful are not. Also, why not fight for what is rightfully yours?
I live in the United States and season 2 reminded me a great deal of a novel called The Outsiders by S. E. Hinton. It was made into a movie starry many Hollywood heartthrobs of the time. It is a story of two gangs (one rich and the other poor) fighting for control over a park in the center of town. It ends with a huge rumble. The bad thing about season 2 is it left it open for a season 3. Baek Jin may be dead, but there will always be someone else to take his place (Seongji). The boys may have won battle, but they haven't won the war. They will need to take down the Union at its source. The schools were not the source they were branches off the bigger picture.
Hope this helps. I enjoyed both seasons (took me longer to watch season 2 than 1, but still a good watch. Happy drama watching.
I understand, I wanted si eun. to beat the shit out of Beom seok.
Yes, that would have made you feel better, but in the long run what would that have solved? Si Eun understood why Baek Seom did what he did and forgave him. Baek Seom was even remorseful about what he had done. All his anger was displaced on the wrong person. Baek Seom couldn't beat up his father and had no power over his father. However, he could pay his peers who also had beefs with Su Ho. It was something that he was in control over.
At the end of the day, it is all about control. You only have control over you and how you respond to things. That's what Si Eun realizes. Si Eun realized he could put a stop to it by not responding in a violent way. jmo
Yeah, I don't know who the target audience of this drama is. While I don't mind a relationship evolves from "friend's…
Rei, the target audience is everyone. Let me explain. This drama is not just a fluffy, simple love story. It is a social commentary on the age of consent law in China which is 14. This means that 14 year olds are mature enough (despite their height) to consent to sex with a 19, 22, or even a 50 year old. People in China are trying to get the law changed to at least 16. Her childish voice throughout the drama is there for a reason. The same with the brother/sister dynamic between the two (this is in the source material, but the screenwriter changes how it is used).
Your biggest complaint of the drama is the transition of when they move from the dynamic of brother/sister to lovers. Now, think back to everything that DJX did for Sang Zhi when she was 17. What does DJX do differently at that time as opposed to what he does when they start dating? He has to make sure that she understands that he likes differently now. All perceptions need to change, the characters' as well as the audiences. Perception plays a key role in this drama. Sang Zhi is strong and independent while at work, but when she is with him she still sees herself as his little sister. Of course she is going to act differently around him until she too can change her perception of herself with him.
It is interesting that you say he never changes his perception of her even after they start dating. Are you saying he loved her from the time they first met and his actions are more of a boyfriend when she is 17?
It has taken me two years to fully understand what is happening in this drama. I read 8 chapters of the source material, the book The End of Eternity, and talked it out with other posters to finally reach the conclusions that I did. I am not writing this after just watching the drama.
I had same questions when I finished this drama year ago.....looks like no discussion like this were happened…
Eeevo, corrected me. I watched the ending again. He goes back to the place where he committed suicide. His mother is calling him. Now whether he has his memories we don't know.
Personally, I think, Death gave him a reason to live by having him go through each of those lives. The only person he doesn't jump into is his girlfriend. How come? Remember he commits suicide because he feels worthless and has no purpose in life. By going through what he did, he now has a reason to live. To save all the innocent people who died because of the serial killer and the CEO. What a mission!
Probably because he wanted to perform shamanic activities behind the King's back, as the King openly disregarded…
1) I went back and watched the first episode again. Kang Cheol tries to ascend while there is a battle, war, massacre going on. During this time a child looks up at the heavens (maybe asking a god for help?) and sees Kang Cheol ascending causing him to loose his dragon body and become a spirit doomed to walk the earth until he can find a suitable human to help him ascend. Now was this child just some random child or will this child be linked to him the future.
There are two very interesting shots in the first episode. The first is while the battle, war, massacre is going on, the camera focuses in on the face of the child. The child's face is surrounded by a blanket. Through the child's eye we see the dragon ascending. We don't know how old the child is or even if it is a boy or a girl. Is this dragon just unlucky as the narrator says or is there something else going on?
The other interesting shot is when Yeo Ri is peering out the window to see if Kang Cheol is nearby. Her face is surrounded by the shutters on the window. When she spots him, she quickly closes the shutters further and the camera focuses in on her face again. This leads me to believe that Yeo Ri is the child who saw him ascend. She also says that all of her visions come true, but the only vision that we have seen is her (married), Yun Gap, and a child seated at a table for a meal. Yun Gap is caressing the child's hair. What if another one of her "visions" was Kang Cheol ascending.
There is more going on in those first scenes then what has been told to us. I agree with you, that Kang Cheol and Yeo Ri must work together to defeat the 8ft. creature. Now whether this was thought through by Yun Gap remains to be seen. Is this why he "lied" to her or withheld the truth from her?
Since Yun Gap is the baby who ruined Gang Cheol's ascent to Godhood, there must be some cope-out ... But though…
If he returns to his own body, he will be a dragon, not KYK. KYK was just the physical manifestation of Kang Cheol's spirit after he lost his dragon body.
There is no way the writer will just let Yun Gap die though. He wasn't a villainous character kdrama writers won't…
You can't resurrect the other people because their bodies have been buried and decomposing. But because Kang Cheol is a heavenly being, he is preserving the body. Yun Gap's body is still "fresh" so to speak even though Kang Cheol says it is rotting.
I didnt understand till finishing why this show left some viewers so angry. By personally none of the 3 main bad…
Actually, it is a perfect ending. It is a realistic ending. The powerful get away with whatever they want to and the poor just have to suck it up. Baek Seom transfers into the school because he was being bullied at his other school. Because he's new and weak, he continues to get bullied at his new school. The same with Si Eun, he transfers schools and the next thing you know he is also being bullied. The cycle continues. When will it stop?
'Love' doesn't have to be romantic. Si-eun is in love with Su-ho, that much is obvious. Shippers just take anything…
Did you read his apology to you? The only reason I ask is because I wrote to him and said I am as straight as they come and even I saw the vibes of BL. I don't follow social media, so I didn't know about the comments of the director and cast. This was just something that I picked up while watching the drama.
The second season seemed more so as Choi Hyo Man in the first episode was practically raping Jun Tae on the stairway and commenting on his manhood.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter. If you find someone who loves, protects, cares, and treats you well, hang onto them (friend or lover). Who you love shouldn't matter.
I get where the mom is coming from about niaoniao but her way of doing it is so 🥴 it's so hard not to loathe…
carstel, Please don't get angry or think that I am trying to start a fight. I understand that you watched The Glory before watching this drama. This drama came out in 2022, so technically The Glory pulled a LLtG move, not the other way around. Happy drama watching.
It all goes back to the opening scene. Why were the people in that village being massacred and who did the person in red with silver beads save? The child who was saved was the one who saw Gang Cheol ascend.
The 8 ft creature looks like the guy who saves the child. He is dressed in clothes that have those silver beads on it. He must have been a general as they keep calling him the celestial general. The crown prince says the 8ft creature is sad. We don't know why it is sad.
Also, the story would be over in the next couple of episodes instead of 16. Have to draw it out. Give the blind shaman a sense of invincibility, so he will slip up. Even the audience knows who the real villain is, the characters don't. The king was about to tell us what happened 13 years ago and why he became king instead the queen dowager's kid.
Also, his entire life his father has told him to strike back at the people who bully him. The father even gives him an opportunity to do this, but BS doesn't do it because he really wasn't being bullied by that person. I am talking about the guy the three of them take down. He does a good deed, but his dad still isn't happy with him and beats him some more. When BS finally has a chance to strike back at the people who bullied him at his other school, SH stops him. SH makes the choice for him just like his dad makes all of his choices for him.
The final straw is SH does bully BS and says he is pathetic and a loser when he joins the other side. This is the final straw because his father does the same thing. SuHo makes him feel worthless, just like his father makes him worthless. Since he can't beat up his father, BS takes out all his frustrations on the one person who resembles his father, Suho.
Now is this justified? Depends on whose admiration you are trying to seek. When BS finally does strike back, shouldn't his dad be proud of him? He is doing the very thing his father has taught him through words and actions. However, the consequences are BS crosses a line, but who could blame him after years of abuse from being bullied at school, being abused by his father, and being taught that I will only be proud of and love you when you fight back.
We really don't know if Beom Seok would take responsibility for his actions because again, his father, who has power and influence, steps in and makes the decision to send him overseas. When will all this stop? When the people who perpetrated it take responsibility for their actions. Something the rich and powerful in these dramas don't do.
Beok Seom is a tragic figure. He shouldn't be hated or pitied. He should be looked upon as the consequences or product of his environment. Change the belief system and the environment and the consequences will change. jmo
The Double did the same thing. It copied straight from LLtG. One commenter on The Double even went as far as asking if The Double was a remake of LLtG. So you know that LLtG had a strong influence on it. jmo
But let's do something really funny and have Kang Cheol stay in Yoon Gap's body, put Yoon Gap's body in the little girl, and Yeo Ri is herself. Or have Yoon Gap return to his body and Kang Cheol becomes the little girl.
I live in the United States and season 2 reminded me a great deal of a novel called The Outsiders by S. E. Hinton. It was made into a movie starry many Hollywood heartthrobs of the time. It is a story of two gangs (one rich and the other poor) fighting for control over a park in the center of town. It ends with a huge rumble. The bad thing about season 2 is it left it open for a season 3. Baek Jin may be dead, but there will always be someone else to take his place (Seongji). The boys may have won battle, but they haven't won the war. They will need to take down the Union at its source. The schools were not the source they were branches off the bigger picture.
Hope this helps. I enjoyed both seasons (took me longer to watch season 2 than 1, but still a good watch. Happy drama watching.
At the end of the day, it is all about control. You only have control over you and how you respond to things. That's what Si Eun realizes. Si Eun realized he could put a stop to it by not responding in a violent way. jmo
Your biggest complaint of the drama is the transition of when they move from the dynamic of brother/sister to lovers. Now, think back to everything that DJX did for Sang Zhi when she was 17. What does DJX do differently at that time as opposed to what he does when they start dating? He has to make sure that she understands that he likes differently now. All perceptions need to change, the characters' as well as the audiences. Perception plays a key role in this drama. Sang Zhi is strong and independent while at work, but when she is with him she still sees herself as his little sister. Of course she is going to act differently around him until she too can change her perception of herself with him.
It is interesting that you say he never changes his perception of her even after they start dating. Are you saying he loved her from the time they first met and his actions are more of a boyfriend when she is 17?
It has taken me two years to fully understand what is happening in this drama. I read 8 chapters of the source material, the book The End of Eternity, and talked it out with other posters to finally reach the conclusions that I did. I am not writing this after just watching the drama.
Personally, I think, Death gave him a reason to live by having him go through each of those lives. The only person he doesn't jump into is his girlfriend. How come? Remember he commits suicide because he feels worthless and has no purpose in life. By going through what he did, he now has a reason to live. To save all the innocent people who died because of the serial killer and the CEO. What a mission!
There are two very interesting shots in the first episode. The first is while the battle, war, massacre is going on, the camera focuses in on the face of the child. The child's face is surrounded by a blanket. Through the child's eye we see the dragon ascending. We don't know how old the child is or even if it is a boy or a girl. Is this dragon just unlucky as the narrator says or is there something else going on?
The other interesting shot is when Yeo Ri is peering out the window to see if Kang Cheol is nearby. Her face is surrounded by the shutters on the window. When she spots him, she quickly closes the shutters further and the camera focuses in on her face again. This leads me to believe that Yeo Ri is the child who saw him ascend. She also says that all of her visions come true, but the only vision that we have seen is her (married), Yun Gap, and a child seated at a table for a meal. Yun Gap is caressing the child's hair. What if another one of her "visions" was Kang Cheol ascending.
There is more going on in those first scenes then what has been told to us. I agree with you, that Kang Cheol and Yeo Ri must work together to defeat the 8ft. creature. Now whether this was thought through by Yun Gap remains to be seen. Is this why he "lied" to her or withheld the truth from her?
The second season seemed more so as Choi Hyo Man in the first episode was practically raping Jun Tae on the stairway and commenting on his manhood.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter. If you find someone who loves, protects, cares, and treats you well, hang onto them (friend or lover). Who you love shouldn't matter.