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I think the 1994 version in Cantonese, right? Not bad version IMHO. But I find they're a bit lazy with the overall production or simply not enough budget. I never get tired of LOCH. If they make again in the future, maybe I will watch it. I'm always curious as to how they interpret 18 subduing dragon palm from the book to the screen.

fingers crossed :)

Of Monks and Masters is pretty good. It's a realistic type of wuxia. I've watched only 2 episodes because some of them don't have Eng sub. It really killed my mood when I couldn't watch half of the series due to language barrier. I don't understand why the crappy ones have Eng sub while the good ones don't.
TVB has a wuxia channel on youtube where we can watch their wuxia dramas including 1983 LOCH. Too bad, many of them don't have Eng sub.

I mainly watch wuxia dramas but I know Jet Li and Michelle. They're awesome! First wuxias I watched were in the 80's. Reincarnated starring Norman Tsui was my early introduction to wuxia genre. I also loved Alex Man's 1980's TaiChi Master. He played as Yuan Bo. He was so cooool there!

Earlier wuxias that I watched were TVB versions. Oh I love Barbara Yung's Huang Rong! She's still the best Huang Rong to date. I also like the other versions such as in 1994, 2003, and 2008. But the 2017 not so much.

Earlier wuxias that I watched were TVB versions. Oh I love Barbara Yung's Huang Rong! She's still the best Huang Rong to date. I also like the other versions such as in 1994, 2003, and 2008. But the 2017 not so much.

I like The Four 2008 too. The story is more realistic than the 2015. The 2015, well I don't know what to say.. the adaptation is horrible.

It's a shame. They should maintain some characteristics of kungfu. Otherwise people outside Chinese culture wouldn't be able to distinguish between wuxia and, well, I don't know Naruto? Ang Lee did a great job introducing wuxia to Hollywood with his Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. It's too bad if it turns into Dragon Ball or something.

Really liked it! The plot was very engaging, the banter was great, and the fight scenes were awesome! Maybe you've watched more wuxias than I have. My problem is that most good wuxias are old ones and many of them still have no English sub.

Wow! Demi Gods Semi Devils? That's too heavy for my puny brains :D I really admire those who manage to gulp down DGSD. That's some heavy wuxia. I've planned to watch it but somehow never got round to it. I heard the best adaptation is the 1997. Is it right?
You speak Cantonese or Mandarin or both? The first wuxia I've watched was Reincarnated, a 1979 wuxia. It was subbed in my language. But they used Cantonese, didn't they?

Perhaps he's not that knowledgeable about different styles in martial arts so he resorts to unnecessarily extending stories.
I think what makes Jin Yong is so prominent is that he's able to create vivid characters, each with their own personalities and these personalities are grounded. I love Mei Chaofeng in LOCH. I know people might wonder why. But I find her character very multidimensional. She's considered evil but she's willing to sacrifice her life for her shifu.

I mainly watch wuxias since I'm not Chinese so I can't read and speak Chinese so I don't read wuxias. I rely on translation. But I have loved wuxias for many years. You can have everything in a wuxia, friendship, comedy, suspense, romance etc. I'm currently readding LOCH the official english translation. Finally, after years of watching at least 5 versions of LOCH I get to read the book. I know, I'm obsessed with LOCH :D

AvenueX (a youtuber who reviews Chinese dramas) mentioned that one of the reasons why the martial arts part of recent wuxia is not good is because they hire traffic actors. To train an actor for elaborate moves takes months of training and traffic actors don't have the time to do that as they have tons of other projects. As a result, they use a lot of slo-mo, cuts and close-ups. For those who are not into wuxia, it's not bothersome. But for a wuxia fan, this type of fight scene could be an eyesore. I dropped lots of recent wuxia dramas because I just couldn't stand the fight scenes.
I'm not against traffic actors or young idols. I just wish the producers roped actors who could go extra miles for this genre.

I think Wuxia is plot driven story just like in fantasy genre in the West like Lord of The Rings where the protagonists are not necessarily the most likable ones but their presence are necessary for the plot. Whether a character is interesting or not, if their presence is important in the story, then however annoying they are, it's impossible to remove them. I think the author wants to convey a certain meanings or messages in the story.

I agree. Too much use of cuts, angles, close up. And the anime-esque I find quite irritating. But then again, better than other wuxia dramas in recent years.

Me too. Not so much into romance centered. I just wish they did better in the fighting aspect, which I think still lacking.

I don't know if you have the time to dig out some old wuxia dramas. They have stellar fighting scenes. Have you watched "Vigilantes in Mask"? Great fighting scenes. Even the heroine (played by Cecilia Liu) is awesomely badass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_6Go9n-sQU

That's possible. "The Four" is also his work that has been adapted into dramas and movies. Liu Yifei stars in the movie version. I've watched two version of The Four, the 2008 and 2015. I like the 2008 and hate the 2015. The Four tells the story of Young Constables. I don't know if the novel mentions different fighting styles but the 2008 shows that each constable has a distinct signature move. But the 2015 is a horrible version I must say, I can't tell the difference between each character.

I think more often than not, when a novel is interpreted in a movie or tv drama, it gets lost in translation from page to screen. Maybe the writer cites those fighting styles or signature moves, but the scriptwriter or the producer or the director decide not to include those in the screen for some reasons. Perhaps they are unable to vision the moves, and another issue is problem the actor. A youtuber called AvenueX mentions that when they use traffic actors to star in a wuxia drama, they probably don't have time to train the actors for months for just one wuxia drama because they're too busy doing other projects. As a result, they resort to using a lot of cuts, different camera angles, extreme close up of hand, face, and this type of Anime-esque fighting style that I find really annoying.

I wish they stop roping traffic actors for wuxia dramas, otherwise they'll get a lot of criticism in their fighting department by hardcore wuxia fans like me :D

One of a good example of plot driven story is The Lord of The Rings. You like and hate the protagonist Frodo. You have love and hate with this character. You sympathize with him for volunteering to carry the ring to the Mount Doom. But you can't help getting annoyed with him when Gollum manages to trick him into believing that Sam has tried to steal the ring. Sam is a supporting character but you can't help rooting for him for his loyalty to Frodo. But in the end you will like Frodo again as he finally manages to complete his task.

Most wuxia stories are plot driven type, I think.

In a plot driven story, the characters develop as the story progresses. It's not love at first sight kinda thing. But what I like about plot driven story is that all characters get to shine in their own ways whether they all main or just supporting. In The Lord of Rings for example, my favorite characters are Gandalf, Sam, Faramir and Eowyn. In Legend of the Condor Heroes, my favorites are Hong Qigong, Mei Chaofeng, and Huang Yaoshi. Most of them are supporting characters.

Not bad but not stellar either. It's certainly better that recent wuxia dramas. But there's no specific styles, also no death point striking which is commonly seen in wuxia in 80's or 90's. But I do enjoy the drama. It's very plot driven like most classic wuxia.

Classic wuxia are usually plot driven rather than character driven. Authors like Jin Yong, Gu Long, Liang Yusheng etc. This one is based on a wuxia writer named Wen Rui'an. The later came to prominence after the former. Whether a story is more plot driven or character driver is a matter of choice.