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That’s why, for me, actors are just people; I don’t have the habit of idolizing them. So even if I like them, I don’t worship them and I don’t focus solely on them. And if I don’t like an actor, I simply say that this actor isn’t my “cup of tea”. To hate a person you don’t even know personally and don’t know what’s really going on behind the scenes is just silly.

For my part, I see Hou Ming Hao as a modest and hardworking person. Which I can’t say about some of his fans. I no need to go read other resources (I don’t have the time or the desire for that); what I’ve observed here is enough for me. Esther Yu’s fans were very supportive of Hou Minhao on this platform (and many still write that they want to see this couple on screen), but then Hou Minhao’s fans came along and started attacking Esther Yu’s fans because of what was being written about him on OTHER platforms, and this whole mess began here.
I’d bet you’ll never write anything like that about Esther Yu. Because it’s her you hate the most, and that’s why you denigrate her fandom. For you, her toxic fans are secondary; they’re just another justification for hating the actress. That’s why you don’t distinguish between toxic fans and actors — you just like to hate them. And that’s why you blame Esther Yu for everything, not Hou Ming Hao’s agency and their greed.

To be honest, I wouldn’t even rule out the possibility that the entire wave of hate might be orchestrated not by ordinary viewers, but by employees of competing artists, in order to eliminate potential competitors. “It’s just business, nothing personal.” After all, big money might be at stake here, and making money is the ultimate and main goal of producing such series. Such series are simply products to be sold. The actors are, for the most part, just puppets in this business. And many fans are just a herd of sheep who put actors on a pedestal and sincerely believe that actors from idol dramas are the best actors in China.

If you want to attack me, please go ahead.
First of all, I don’t deny that there are toxic fans in Esther’s fandom, and there may be quite a lot of them. Unlike you, I’m ready to admit that. Yes, there are people there who often go too far. But such people are literally in every large fandom of a very popular, well‑known artist, especially if they’re a relatively young idol with a pretty face. The most reasonable and healthy fandoms are those of less‑known actors. You often talk as if such fans are exclusive to Esther, and based on a certain number of her crazy fans, you’re trying to tarnish her entire fandom. You act like you’re saints (even though you don’t even try to behave like them; you accuse others of being toxic, but you’re just as full of toxicity yourself), even though there are plenty of toxic people in Hou Minghao’s fandom as well. In principle, no artist with great popularity has a perfectly clean fandom. It’s enough to recall how fans of other famous actors harassed Zhang Ling He, and death threats weren’t absent there either. There are plenty of fools, and they all love attention, so they flock to famous personalities. Unlike you, I don’t denigrate the entire fandom because of a certain number of toxic members, and I certainly won’t start hating an artist because of some crazy fanatics.
And if you’re that concerned about someone’s likes, then no, I absolutely disagree with Meren regarding Hou Ming Hao, and I also don’t approve of her offensive remarks about him. But I do have some questions for his fans (regarding their defense of a project in which a minor was forced to play “love” with an adult) and for the director of his previous drama. I don’t think HMH is a p////le (I agree that he has nothing to do with this mess and I’m genuinely sorry that he was “thrown under the bus” in this situation); I think the director is a p/////le, and I think the fans who think this is normal are rather narrow‑minded.

Either they’re really masochists, or they’re trying to attract attention — apparently, they don’t get enough of it in real life. And, of course, the lack of a normal, productive life: apart from watching TV series, they have nothing useful to do in life. And such an empty life leads to the accumulation of negativity, which they then vent on others. It’s based on the principle “my life is bad, but I’m so pathetic that the only thing that will make my life happier is to insult others online.”

This, plus, is not a story about “he and she met at school and fell in love,” it’s more of a story about growing up — how high school students cope with the transition to adulthood, how they overcome their inner insecurities to do so. I’m not a big fan of the school‑era setting myself, but in this drama, it can be said to be reasonably the main part of the story, while the adult era simply sums up the school‑era experience. And the romance here serves more as an addition to the story rather than its main focus, unlike in many other rom‑coms.

And once again, for those who aren’t quite getting it. If you hate one of the main actors (whether it’s Hou Minghao or Esther Yu), at least have a shred of respect for other viewers who like both of these actors and are looking forward to this drama. If you demand respect for yourself, learn to respect others’ opinions. No one is forcing you to watch these dramas with a gun to your head. These are not masterpieces of world cinema. These are just soap operas created solely to entertain their audience (and so that the companies that produce them can earn enough money to “buy a caviar sandwich”), and they don’t provide any other benefit. So, if a drama can’t even give you the basic pleasure of watching it, you can simply ignore it. Spend the time you’d have spent watching this drama on things that will actually benefit you in life. You’re really starting to annoy ordinary viewers with your squabbles. If you’re here solely to sling mud at each other, have some conscience, leave this page, and don’t spoil the mood for the real viewers. If you want to argue, create a topic on the forum and enjoy your battles. Finally, leave others alone. First, they attack the fans of one actor, then another. Honestly, I’m sure you’ve already annoyed a lot of people here. Only exceptionally toxic people can enjoy something like this.

I might surprise you, but some haters can be far more obsessed with Esther Yu than even her hardcore fans, and they’re literally ready to follow every news about her closely. I love Esther Yu, but I don’t watch literally every drama of hers if I don’t like certain aspects of the drama. And beyond watching her dramas, I don’t delve too deeply into her personal life — I have my own life. While her haters seem ready to watch every drama of hers just to find reasons to criticize her. You’re simply amazed by the amount of free time they have and their masochism. She annoys them, but they keep watching her. What for?
So you don’t have to be her fan to know everything about her — her haters are capable of the same thing.

Did they write death messages to him on this resource? Why do they collect all the negativity on other sites and drag it here? Here, the person started writing nasty things just because of some, according to him, incorrectly designed pictures on the Internet. Is this normal, appropriate behavior in your opinion? Is it just impossible to ask without rudeness?If you don't like the fact that other sites write badly about HMH, then please arrange these fights with those who directly write it and on those resources where they write it, and not here, where people adhere to respectful communication. I'm personally a fan of Esther Yu and I like Hou Ming Hao, I'm looking forward to this drama. Why should I see this mess? Is it possible to preserve this resource within the framework of civilized cultural communication, rather than turning it into a bunch of rabid fanatics who cannot properly maintain a conversation without resorting to insults?

I feel that such a reaction often takes place in reality. This is where many people can write that they would like to make friends with such a person. But this is a drama and this is the FL of the drama (many viewers here are more inclined to identify with the main character). But in reality, many (I'm not saying that everyone) people would feel overwhelmed in the presence of such people, because they are not as smart as they are, this can cause a certain envy. This could cause them some discomfort in dealing with such a person personally.

I feel "Once we get married" a kind of "guilty pleasure." The plot of the drama is too cheesy, simple and full of cliches, besides there are controversial points in principle. I think people mostly watch this drama because they fell in love with the chemistry between Wang Yu Wen and Wang Zi Qi after "The Love You Give Me."

and just because you don't have any evidence and the opportunity to trample a person into the mud whom you don't even know personally, you're so furious with your helplessness and venom.

What is your proof? Facts require hard evidence. Without proof, your hundred times written "I'm telling the facts" is just empty blah blah blah. And the idle gossip of some unknown dudes from social media is also not considered evidence. Are you personally familiar with these artists or do you work directly in this industry to know the truth first-hand? No, then you can't say any facts in principle.

Is what is written on Reddit your source of "verified facts"? Are you freaking laughing? The most ironic thing is that you don't even realize how ridiculous your arguments sound to NORMAL, as you put it, adults with critical thinking. Normal people don't look for the truth on social media like this, to begin with. If you want to be smart, you'd better keep quiet than write this in all seriousness.

Personally, in this sense, I am always condescending to anyone who is under 20 or a little older. After all, as they say, the human brain is formed before the age of 25.

High school students are still children in fact and tend to be immature. Moreover, the main leads here is still 15 years old, if I understand correctly. The peak of teenage stupidity. If the ML were 25 or 30 years old, it would be a different conversation.

Well, in general, an interesting family is emerging here. From the series "I would like to take a look at their family gatherings." It definitely wouldn't be boring.

So far, I've only watched 3 episodes and what can I say, I don't care about the camera work and the picture, for me it's more of a husk, the main thing is that the plot would be logical (or for the most part at least try to be logical) and fascinating. In this case, the plot is rushing too fast, the backstory of the main couple's relationship is being told too quickly, and what is still jarring is that many things from the lore and the description of the characters, their background, are spoken by the characters themselves. (for me, the golden rule of a good story is "show, don't tell.") But these are only the first episodes, and who knows, maybe the story will slow down further and develop more sedately? And will they reduce the amount of drama in what is happening? I personally don't mind a certain intensity of passions, but in my opinion it should happen later in history. At the beginning, I still don't know these characters and, accordingly, I'm not very involved in their fate, as the director has been trying to force me since the first episode. (it doesn't work that way for me, even if I like the actor or actress in this role, in the series I have to worry first of all about the character, and not for the actor who plays him). Therefore, I believe that the pace of the story at the beginning should be more leisurely, slow, so that I would better get to know the characters (at least the main ones) and the background surrounding them. And then gradually the pace of the narrative should increase. Another disadvantage seems to me, there is too much music, songs and musical accompaniment. Very little time passes here without using them and they accompany almost every action of the characters. The music is good, the songs are beautiful, but they should be added to the story in a measured manner, at moments that are particularly important for the story to emphasize a particular scene, rather than sounding every 2 minutes, in which case their sound is distorted and the meaning in adding them is also lost. Moreover, sometimes an action without music can have no less impact than with music, and sometimes it's even better than any music. There is a surplus in everything: an excess of beautiful pictures, an excess of the pace of the story, an excess of music, an excess of drama. It's as if the director is trying his best from the first episodes to hit the viewer on the spot on all fronts: the story, the picture, the music, in order to get him hooked on watching as quickly as possible. But in this case, it only worsens the quality of the series, not improves it. Everything looks expensive and rich, but it's not enough.

Well, she's one of my favorite actresses. And I liked her after watching "The Love you give me" (at the same time, it was her first drama that I watched and I think it's still her most popular role). I like how she plays smart and internally strong heroines, and at the same time her heroines are not devoid of sweet, funny and touching moments. Her heroines can be both strong and fragile, and she knows how to show it. I also like her roles in "Such a Good Love" (only this is not a typical romcom, but a drama to a greater extent), "You are my lover friend" and "Nobody knows" (this is a drama and a detective story)

It's quite ironic that you're now saying "don't believe the rumors" while convincing everyone that the RUMORS about Yu Shuxin and He Yu are true. Both statements are based on rumors, but you are willing to believe one and not the other. But there is no official confirmation in BOTH cases yet.