A wise philosopher once said - "Don't be afraid of the cracks, that's how the light gets in."Seriously, Priest…
I do NOT approve of the slightly less crazy gangster for our handsome Dr. Lin, go away, shoo! He quit smoking, he doesn't need you around anyway, let him find his own romance.
The staggered pregnancy announcement was hilarious, LOL. I knew he'd go for San Pang's throat the second he promised he won't :D
That baby sure doesn't look like either of her presumptive parents, LOL. But we'll allow it anyway. While Qian was telling Lili what it would be to become a parent, I was hearing her reply silently - what about it, you're going to raise this baby too, LOL. Let's hope they don't dump her with her uncles all the time hahaha~
And one of the best scenes of the later eps - Yuan ordering everybody around at the company in order to free up Qian from most of his duties, and Qian sitting there all proud like, "yeah that's my man, fighting my wars for me." And the office worker who immediately spilled the secret, LOL, after promising she'd keep it. I'd've been the one who stuck by Qian's side in order to figure out who's top and bottom... then again, it's pretty clear who's bossing whom around :D
So the first thing a rookie actor needs to star in a BL drama... is to go look for someone to rape them?!! WTF…
You're going at me full throttle when I'm not even trying to tell you not to watch this or anything. That's why I'm using the spoiler tag. You could also do that, since you're ranting about it while having not even actually understood what I'm trying to say.
I myself am going to give it another episode before deciding, after all, for an uninspired opening trope they might do way better later on.
Also, for your judgement: what the hell are you on about?! Sex police?! Sex-phobic church lady?! Are you off your rocker or something? What gives you the right to make such wild implications about a total stranger?! (And you're way, WAY off in all your assumptions too, I find it absolutely hilarious at this moment.)
Thanks for reminding ME that YOUR kind also "roams" these pages. Please grow up or something (not that I care, TBH). You do sound like a combative, maybe a little unhinged person, so don't mind me while I'm using the block button. Have a nice (and happier) life.
So the first thing a rookie actor needs to star in a BL drama... is to go look for someone to rape them?!! WTF…
I know the trope. It's better left back in the 20th century.
It is rape when he has no sexual experience (not even of the straight kind) and his whole idea is to let some stranger f*ck him because he wants to "learn" how to be gay. It's not like any stranger would just stop if he wanted them to, when inevitably he would want them to - because it can freaking hurt a lot for a virgin and he'd definitely change his mind in the act. Partners who love each other do it, particularly in the beginning, when the receiving partner needs adjustment time. Given Shirasaki has NO idea (not even from porn) what to expect... it's way worse than that.
In the first place, sexuality doesn't work like that, and it's a terrible message to send any teen or confused or curious young adult. You don't "get it" by having sex. There are a billion other measures he could take in order to learn about it. And even with a virgin, I 100% doubt he doesn't know how his own dick works. We've all been teenagers. It's not like he's never had to wash his sheets again when they were washed the previous day or something.
In the end, anyway, all sex scenes in dramas or movies are just pretend sex, there's no actual intercourse (with the exception of porn, obviously), so why would he need to actually have sex in order to feel how his character felt?! It's not like the whole drama would be porn, they even said it's a popular BL manga. It's not like they're making a drama based on a Motoni Modoru manga, WTH!
He's not that desperate in the manga - Hayama gets drunk and rapes him in the first night of the casting, with no artistic interest excuse. Here the script gives him a saving line, having Shirasaki actively try to get laid. It's a bit better than the manga, because of this reason, but still a pretty poorly reasoned and planned plot device.
TBH, seeing all these comments saying how interesting and new this is makes me more convinced I could spend my time watching other dramas. I've read my share of rape-to-lovers yaoi manga but I've long since grown past. I sure do not want to see it in drama form AND getting praised for novelty.
Ah well, sorry for the wall of text. Everyone likes what they like and there's no helping it.
So the first thing a rookie actor needs to star in a BL drama... is to go look for someone to rape them?!! WTF…
If it was a girl instead, would that be okay then? Even if they didn't have the slightest idea what they were doing? Letting a total stranger take their virginity (because of a drama role?!) to the declared purpose of getting experience in ROMANCE?
Everybody and their dog too, knows about who Tanaka is interested in, while Natsukawa goes "no no no no no no no NO!" LOL. Natsukawa is cute :D
This might be the first uke to try out the whole "let's ask our bodies for some sincerity" method of finding out if the seme really is in love with them LOL.
So the first thing a rookie actor needs to star in a BL drama... is to go look for someone to rape them?!! WTF is that kind of message?! And yes, technically he's going to look for someone just to ~experience~ what gay sex is like - but we're in the freaking 21st century, go the freak find some porn movie, if you're that curious, don't just jump into one night stands when you have no idea what actual romance is like! Nobody just ups and goes to deliver himself to some stranger to "experience" something like that. Is the manga this is based on really like that?!
How the freak do they choose which yaoi manga to make a drama of?!
What was intriguing was that it looked - at first - to involve some of the struggle of a rookie actor trying way too hard to land a role. But then it moved completely off tangent, and his dedication is already feeling like he's completely mental - still annoyed by the whole set-up, TBH. People never talk like that in real life. The characters feel kind of robotic. The @!$#@$$!!!!!!
And before someone comes to lecture me on the does and doesnots of yaoi-to-BL-dorama undergoings - I freaking grew up with Viewfinder and Haru wo Daiteita, and I freaking loved them, too! So the kind of hard setups and triggers of yaoi manga are not secrets for me. But this one started... not too great for me.
I know both leads have some acting experience, but I don't really feel their chemistry yet. Hayama looks too old and worn out already (and obviously he's always noticed Shirasaki, bla bla bla), and Shirasaki is way too... green and intense. The green actor part was done perfectly. The idiotic dialogue and even more idiotic ideas... they're ruining the beginning of this drama for me.
I might give it another episode, but if it goes like this... I'll skip this one. There are plenty of good BL dramas out there already, so something better will sure soon come along.
Edit: OMFG the manga starts even WORSE!! I can't believe the drama actually tried to change it up a bit in order to save some redemption traits for the ML, but what in the actual f*ck!!
I don't see San anywhere, but I'm still stuck on seeing Yoh as SeongHwa and this is not sane and I need help!*posted…
Haha, LOL, I did misunderstand you, sorry :D TBH I didn't pay all that much attention to Mizuki... I was obsessing over Yoh and his uncanny resemblance to PSH :D
So I went to take another look, and I'll give you he has that sharp jawline... but that nose is definitely NOT the right profile LOL.
The guys in TKTAK all look SO young, LOL, and the guy playing Takara looks like a doll :D (I saw him in My Happy Marriage movie, but he didn't really register, I was all over Meguro Ren in that one LOL - yes, I'm shamelessly shallow, what can I say? :D )
This is that one drama I should've waited to binge. Dammit. Also, dunk the freaking watch. Hit it with a rock.…
So it goes like this: if she remains the girl who accepts to be TaeSung's GF, TS's crazy wanna-be GF will probably push her under a bus and she gets paralysed. Since SunJae would believe she's not interested in him but in TS, he'd remain alone and depressed and so it goes as in the current timeline.
If she manages to go back (which it seems she will), she HAS to undo that hurt, try to make more small changes so that her accident doesn't happen, or if it does, she doesn't live alone and SunJae isn't alone either. I have a fear that means TaeSung will end up either dead or paralysed instead, in that case. Or worse, SunJae also gets hurt.
Oh well, we're only 3/16, there's time. Things are probably going to be super green in the end, or else... we'll send Korben Dallas in to negotiate with writer-nim.
PS Is it me or did TaeSung hear her talk about a FUTURE house fire that wasn't happening at the time? Is it because it was about to happen anyway, or does he have the power of hearing her when she's talking about the future?? The writing deleting itself might be because the accident will be prevented, not because there can't be physical traces of untold futures, right? Anyway that's what I'm going to hope for.
This is that one drama I should've waited to binge. Dammit.
Also, dunk the freaking watch. Hit it with a rock. Do something!!
She said "Unbeliebubble" and I heard that in Ruby Rhod's voice, did anyone else hear it like that LOL? And then all kinds of things also came up - like BIG badda boom! and Super Green! and MOOL-TEE-PASS!! :D
😍😍😍😍😍 HOTTNESS!!Oh how I wish more would of happen with them two, and the ending being different…
Given this is a censored danmei adaptation, as are ALL cdramas adapted from danmei, sadly, one would never get the full experience unless they read the novels. They definitely will never show any clear skinship or any actual implied sexual content, like Thai dramas do, for example (or BL j-doramas try, from time to time). If you prefer dramas that show (a lot) more spicy content, censored danmei adaptations will not be it.
If you're interested in how it actually goes in the novel (including the ending... and the extras, LOL), you could try the novel and see if it's more to your liking - re: spicyness level :D
I think I may have missed this part, but can someone explain how Lan Zhan knew it was Wei Ying at the start? Wei…
WWX is playing the WangXian theme that LWJ played for him (and ONLY for him) in the cave of the Xuanwu tortoise. He heard it once but found it really soothing, so when he needed to calm down Wen Ning, he played that theme. The drama calls it WuJi because of reasons, but it's WangXian, LOL.
Since he was the only one who knew it, besides LWJ... and used a flute to play it (after calling out a fierce corpse of Wen Ning's power - also something only the YiLing Patriarch could try to do) - AND LWJ already had some suspicions (given what happened at Mo Manor)... it only follows he could only be WWX.
And WWX confirms it for the drama watchers later on, when they're journeying together, because he's smart and he can remember things better then - he tells LWJ he now knows how LWJ recognised him, after playing the tune while on the back of Lil' Apple, LOL.
In the novel, he doesn't think LWJ recognised him so easily and tries to make his not-so-sneaky escape with love bombing LWJ, LOL. He's hilarious like that, thinking his soulmate would NOT recognise him hahaha~
Even Harvey Weinstein and Jeffery Epstein's victims are getting some justice........there's hope in real life.
I seriously doubt that. But don't mind me, I'm being really on edge tonight because we're probably going to see another sea-change in the world politics soon-ish and I am all but spent on stressing about the fate of the world LOL.
I'm ready so see something actually hopeful in real life. Keeping fingers crossed.
The way it turned way too idealistic and melo at the end - it's just to remind you this is all just fiction. Oh…
But seriously, let's be honest - no powerful and connected and rich person would see justice as it's shown in kdramas. At most they'd disappear from the limelights, unless their connections drop them. But let's leave it at that.
It was a kdrama miracle that SooHyun's hairstyle remained the same for about 15+ years (including during prison time) and that she never aged a day (again, not even while in prison, presumably suffering horribly all the while, and with no skin care or other beauty products to help her through.) Which is another way to make you realise this is still just fiction.
I am a bit unimpressed with Kang SuHo's storyline. It turned a bit twisted when he suddenly decided to join Kim Joon (because there was ANY chance that snake would trust him?! No, but seriously, that's the reasoning?) And then all his supposed under-cover actions in KJ's campaign just... went away? What purpose did it serve? Couldn't he have remained just a bereaved father and journalist with some integrity and that would have been that? Because after all, the whole tablet switcharoo was masterminded with the help and with some applied pressure from SeonYul. Another wasted twist.
There were quite a lot of twists that in the end didn't really serve a drama purpose other than making the FL undergo blow after blow - so her husband and adopted sister cheated on her, with each other. Heartbreak. Then later on everybody moved on. The mom now has dementia. Later on, everybody's moved on. SeonYul's team all hated on the FL and were totally determined to do her harm. Later on, they're her allies because SY changed teams too. The doctor (the BIL) had found out he was being used... and now he's showing her to his mom as a presumptive SO?! Because why not...
And then, there's the boy from the arson case - they saved him so dramatically and then what?!
For a drama so full of melodramatic moments... they kind of became too much in the end. Particularly with the one-person-protest. I get it, they do that in SK... but I kind of doubt there's such a high rate of success with those protests. Not that I really care, though. It's just so... overkill. (Especially since - again - it's NOT the protest that undoes the villain, in the end, but being betrayed by his own former underlings).
Anyway - it was good, particularly in the first two eps. when I wasn't expecting it was going to go on being melo and political conspiracy-full. Glad to have seen CEW in something else than the regular cutesy romcoms. He can improve further.
The staggered pregnancy announcement was hilarious, LOL. I knew he'd go for San Pang's throat the second he promised he won't :D
That baby sure doesn't look like either of her presumptive parents, LOL. But we'll allow it anyway. While Qian was telling Lili what it would be to become a parent, I was hearing her reply silently - what about it, you're going to raise this baby too, LOL. Let's hope they don't dump her with her uncles all the time hahaha~
And one of the best scenes of the later eps - Yuan ordering everybody around at the company in order to free up Qian from most of his duties, and Qian sitting there all proud like, "yeah that's my man, fighting my wars for me." And the office worker who immediately spilled the secret, LOL, after promising she'd keep it. I'd've been the one who stuck by Qian's side in order to figure out who's top and bottom... then again, it's pretty clear who's bossing whom around :D
Seriously, Priest must like her gongs way better than her shous, they always have the best lines.
Also, let's applaud the little lamb trying hard to roar like a tiger, LOL.
(The title and presentation of the MC sound a bit like the French Connection movie set-up, LOL. I wonder if they wanted it that way.)
I myself am going to give it another episode before deciding, after all, for an uninspired opening trope they might do way better later on.
Also, for your judgement: what the hell are you on about?! Sex police?! Sex-phobic church lady?! Are you off your rocker or something? What gives you the right to make such wild implications about a total stranger?! (And you're way, WAY off in all your assumptions too, I find it absolutely hilarious at this moment.)
Thanks for reminding ME that YOUR kind also "roams" these pages. Please grow up or something (not that I care, TBH). You do sound like a combative, maybe a little unhinged person, so don't mind me while I'm using the block button. Have a nice (and happier) life.
It is rape when he has no sexual experience (not even of the straight kind) and his whole idea is to let some stranger f*ck him because he wants to "learn" how to be gay. It's not like any stranger would just stop if he wanted them to, when inevitably he would want them to - because it can freaking hurt a lot for a virgin and he'd definitely change his mind in the act. Partners who love each other do it, particularly in the beginning, when the receiving partner needs adjustment time. Given Shirasaki has NO idea (not even from porn) what to expect... it's way worse than that.
In the first place, sexuality doesn't work like that, and it's a terrible message to send any teen or confused or curious young adult. You don't "get it" by having sex. There are a billion other measures he could take in order to learn about it. And even with a virgin, I 100% doubt he doesn't know how his own dick works. We've all been teenagers. It's not like he's never had to wash his sheets again when they were washed the previous day or something.
In the end, anyway, all sex scenes in dramas or movies are just pretend sex, there's no actual intercourse (with the exception of porn, obviously), so why would he need to actually have sex in order to feel how his character felt?! It's not like the whole drama would be porn, they even said it's a popular BL manga. It's not like they're making a drama based on a Motoni Modoru manga, WTH!
He's not that desperate in the manga - Hayama gets drunk and rapes him in the first night of the casting, with no artistic interest excuse. Here the script gives him a saving line, having Shirasaki actively try to get laid. It's a bit better than the manga, because of this reason, but still a pretty poorly reasoned and planned plot device.
TBH, seeing all these comments saying how interesting and new this is makes me more convinced I could spend my time watching other dramas. I've read my share of rape-to-lovers yaoi manga but I've long since grown past. I sure do not want to see it in drama form AND getting praised for novelty.
Ah well, sorry for the wall of text. Everyone likes what they like and there's no helping it.
What the freak is it, then? Pure love?!
This might be the first uke to try out the whole "let's ask our bodies for some sincerity" method of finding out if the seme really is in love with them LOL.
How the freak do they choose which yaoi manga to make a drama of?!
What was intriguing was that it looked - at first - to involve some of the struggle of a rookie actor trying way too hard to land a role. But then it moved completely off tangent, and his dedication is already feeling like he's completely mental - still annoyed by the whole set-up, TBH. People never talk like that in real life. The characters feel kind of robotic. The @!$#@$$!!!!!!
And before someone comes to lecture me on the does and doesnots of yaoi-to-BL-dorama undergoings - I freaking grew up with Viewfinder and Haru wo Daiteita, and I freaking loved them, too! So the kind of hard setups and triggers of yaoi manga are not secrets for me. But this one started... not too great for me.
I know both leads have some acting experience, but I don't really feel their chemistry yet. Hayama looks too old and worn out already (and obviously he's always noticed Shirasaki, bla bla bla), and Shirasaki is way too... green and intense. The green actor part was done perfectly. The idiotic dialogue and even more idiotic ideas... they're ruining the beginning of this drama for me.
I might give it another episode, but if it goes like this... I'll skip this one. There are plenty of good BL dramas out there already, so something better will sure soon come along.
Edit: OMFG the manga starts even WORSE!! I can't believe the drama actually tried to change it up a bit in order to save some redemption traits for the ML, but what in the actual f*ck!!
So I went to take another look, and I'll give you he has that sharp jawline... but that nose is definitely NOT the right profile LOL.
The guys in TKTAK all look SO young, LOL, and the guy playing Takara looks like a doll :D (I saw him in My Happy Marriage movie, but he didn't really register, I was all over Meguro Ren in that one LOL - yes, I'm shamelessly shallow, what can I say? :D )
Nah, he's basically a SeongHwa clone for me... Also, too pretty for his own good, LOL (re: the actual drama character :D)
*posted after a 2.5 hrs Ateez hits list trek - ongoing BTW*
If she manages to go back (which it seems she will), she HAS to undo that hurt, try to make more small changes so that her accident doesn't happen, or if it does, she doesn't live alone and SunJae isn't alone either. I have a fear that means TaeSung will end up either dead or paralysed instead, in that case. Or worse, SunJae also gets hurt.
Oh well, we're only 3/16, there's time. Things are probably going to be super green in the end, or else... we'll send Korben Dallas in to negotiate with writer-nim.
PS Is it me or did TaeSung hear her talk about a FUTURE house fire that wasn't happening at the time? Is it because it was about to happen anyway, or does he have the power of hearing her when she's talking about the future?? The writing deleting itself might be because the accident will be prevented, not because there can't be physical traces of untold futures, right? Anyway that's what I'm going to hope for.
Also, dunk the freaking watch. Hit it with a rock. Do something!!
She said "Unbeliebubble" and I heard that in Ruby Rhod's voice, did anyone else hear it like that LOL? And then all kinds of things also came up - like BIG badda boom! and Super Green! and MOOL-TEE-PASS!! :D
If you're interested in how it actually goes in the novel (including the ending... and the extras, LOL), you could try the novel and see if it's more to your liking - re: spicyness level :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYqRq_MewX4
Since he was the only one who knew it, besides LWJ... and used a flute to play it (after calling out a fierce corpse of Wen Ning's power - also something only the YiLing Patriarch could try to do) - AND LWJ already had some suspicions (given what happened at Mo Manor)... it only follows he could only be WWX.
And WWX confirms it for the drama watchers later on, when they're journeying together, because he's smart and he can remember things better then - he tells LWJ he now knows how LWJ recognised him, after playing the tune while on the back of Lil' Apple, LOL.
In the novel, he doesn't think LWJ recognised him so easily and tries to make his not-so-sneaky escape with love bombing LWJ, LOL. He's hilarious like that, thinking his soulmate would NOT recognise him hahaha~
I'm ready so see something actually hopeful in real life. Keeping fingers crossed.
It was a kdrama miracle that SooHyun's hairstyle remained the same for about 15+ years (including during prison time) and that she never aged a day (again, not even while in prison, presumably suffering horribly all the while, and with no skin care or other beauty products to help her through.) Which is another way to make you realise this is still just fiction.
I am a bit unimpressed with Kang SuHo's storyline. It turned a bit twisted when he suddenly decided to join Kim Joon (because there was ANY chance that snake would trust him?! No, but seriously, that's the reasoning?) And then all his supposed under-cover actions in KJ's campaign just... went away? What purpose did it serve? Couldn't he have remained just a bereaved father and journalist with some integrity and that would have been that? Because after all, the whole tablet switcharoo was masterminded with the help and with some applied pressure from SeonYul. Another wasted twist.
There were quite a lot of twists that in the end didn't really serve a drama purpose other than making the FL undergo blow after blow - so her husband and adopted sister cheated on her, with each other. Heartbreak. Then later on everybody moved on. The mom now has dementia. Later on, everybody's moved on. SeonYul's team all hated on the FL and were totally determined to do her harm. Later on, they're her allies because SY changed teams too. The doctor (the BIL) had found out he was being used... and now he's showing her to his mom as a presumptive SO?! Because why not...
And then, there's the boy from the arson case - they saved him so dramatically and then what?!
For a drama so full of melodramatic moments... they kind of became too much in the end. Particularly with the one-person-protest. I get it, they do that in SK... but I kind of doubt there's such a high rate of success with those protests. Not that I really care, though. It's just so... overkill. (Especially since - again - it's NOT the protest that undoes the villain, in the end, but being betrayed by his own former underlings).
Anyway - it was good, particularly in the first two eps. when I wasn't expecting it was going to go on being melo and political conspiracy-full. Glad to have seen CEW in something else than the regular cutesy romcoms. He can improve further.