ShortCircuit

What if the young nerdy guy (got to look his name up) is the sister's son?! Then he'd have all the motivation in the world to commit the murders.

... I bet that's it.

I guess the scene will be retconned in the next ep and show how he did look for her THEN left. But he's not that much of a police officer, LOL, he'd do way better as a mobster with that attitude.

His parents (the mother, anyway) are in on the secret. The father seems clueless (might not be so naive though) but she was connected to Mr Baek, she definitely knew what was going on at the center. And she took two kids from there, too.

I doubt they'd be sincere with RSJ even if he asked.

1. IF RSH is the killer, he must have borrowed the car to take the first victim. Then he swept over to make sure there's no evidence.

2. The figurines are in RSH's room. In the open. On the table, you know, just like any serial killer would do, neglecting to cover his tracks in the SAME house where a detective lives. (Granted, RSJ isn't much of a detective, but still, this case is one where even he can add 2 and 2 together...)

3. Both are adopted, they're 11 and 13 from the center. At this time, I think the sister is EunKi. EunKi's "mother" seems a bit fishy about how 13 died, I think she gave him to his (and RSH's) adoptive mother, and forged the papers. As to WHY RSH would have come later... what if 13 was adopted earlier, after he already lost his memory, and thus lived a better life for a while and NOT helped the other Number Kids while living it, before RSH was adopted too? Then the revenge chain (against the kids of the perpetrators of abuse at the center) would make some sense.

RSJ tells JEK not to go out, to lock herself in a room and wait for him. The next second she's out in the dark following the Pied Piper. Why so stupid, girl?

RSJ remembers RSH's face from when he - too - was adopted. He's in process of finding where JEK is and at the youth center, concerned about her safety. The next second, he teleported home and is finding the wooden figurines. I expect someone to get a Nobel Prize for this.

Is Det. Kang dead or not? He looked done in the bathroom scene, but the press conference had him grievously hurt and then they wouldn't let RSJ see him before whisking him / his body away. Will he make a comeback?

They cleared RSJ of the charges so fast? There's not a lot of evidence saying Mr. Baek killed the family, and Det. Kang's declaration should still stand. Or if not, they should suspend Det. Kang and not leave him merrily doing his duties.

But then this show doesn't really care much about police procedures and the chain of evidence, LOL.

Sooo. Who else thinks the second killer / accomplice is the young nerdy guy? If he's acting WITH RSH, then there might be more of the Number Kids involved. If he's acting separately, then RSH will prove to be trying to SAVE everybody, LOL. At this point, given it's halfway, I'm inclining to think the young guy will be the official endgame killer, and RSH will come out a hero. Bah.

Overall... AT LEAST RSJ didn't do his bull in the china shop routine this time, and took a bit of time to do things before slamming his head through walls and locked doors (first few scenes of ep 9 not included, LOL).

I think JEK is the lost Jung sister, anyone else has this feeling?

Edit: also, it looks like the show is somehow implying either RSJ - probably him - OR the young nerdy killer guy might be the lost son of the lady with the ramen place.

Wow that was... a reveal. Almost as suspenseful as the reveal of Sauron in ROP LOL /which was not.

Edit: also, why didn't ANYONE go alert/save the OTHER jurors LOL? I mean, show, seriously...

The ratings for this drama were set when the subs were amazingly bad (like incredibly, awfully bad) and people either haven't returned to watch it in a better translation, or are not coming over from Viki to rate it). Or they might expect it's not what it actually is (NOT BL) so they're disappointed.

So, to would-be prospective watchers: There ARE better subs now, it's still not BL, it's WHOLESOME and cute and just the right thing for a nice evening when you want to regain faith in humanity. Give it a chance!

Lu Di wasn't there from the very beginning - when LSQ first realized she was looping, everybody, XHY included, was on the bus. Lu Di was the one who got on last, and it was AFTER the time she and the bus looped back to.

So, to be more clear - she got XHY out and he remembered because he was on board when the bomb went on, and before the start time of the loop. Lu Di wasn't, so despite being taken off that time, he couldn't loop back to the beginning with them and had to go through again and again with no memory of it.

RE what happened after, no, they didn't just go back to their regular lives LOL. I mean, obviously that was a terror threat, but the bomb didn't get off, so most of them never experienced more than confusion and fear for the bit they were aware of, except for LSQ and XHY who got to remember it all. After a while, though, they'd also start wondering if they didn't imagine it all, because our minds are resilient, inquisitive and usually find a way to cope with the extraordinary. But LSQ and XHY are now in a relationship, and the experience is also affecting the game (originally too bloody, remember?), Lu Di got the courage to come out to his parents about the cats, LOL, the culprits got some closure (at least the truth came out and the molester was also arrested), basically everybody in the bus got their lives changed.

So nope, not business as usual.

I still haven't read the novel, too many danmei in the way LOL, but the time'll come :D

Sometimes, the one who understands you best is the one who you cannot allow to live, even if they will probably be the only one of a similar mind you might ever meet in your life.

Sacrifice is necessary, even if you will end up alone - for the greater good, or greater idea, people are unimportant, as long as it succeeds.

The Qin Emperor understands that Nameless (actually Broken Sword, but he had already sacrificed at that time and has managed to make Nameless understand) is his soulmate in his great endeavour, and that he has to die, so that everything under heaven would know law and order.

That ending is beyond words.

From time to time I come here and look at the comments (sadly they're not increasing in numbers). This is one of the best wuxia movies I've ever watched (there might be other movies that are better liked by other people, but this one - I like best).

I loved everything about it - first, the story (loosely based on the later life of the first Qin Emperor, he of the first unified China, ruler of everything UNDER HEAVEN (Tianxia) and buried in the mausoleum guarded by the famous Terracotta Army, after he managed to kill himself with mercury potions in a vain try to become immortal, and having already survived numerous assassination attempts).

Second, the cinematography. The colour scheme, the flow of the scenes, the tragedy painted out in beautiful scenery - it's amazing.

Third, the music. I've tried adding Tan Dun's OST to the page of the drama and found no info for Tan Dun; I've tried adding a page for Tan Dun (among many classical works and compositions, he also wrote the soundtracks for a few really well receiced movies, like this one, or like Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon). I might've made some mistakes, so it was rejected.

Give it a listen, if you're in the mood. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL3daHF26V4&list=PLF3831010615C80A5

Fourth, the acting - a star-studded cast, an amazing portrayal of hope, understanding, redemption, and self-sacrifice. All of them shine.

And fifth, but not the least - the message.

She is dead. The death is offscreen because (as in the novel) it's horrifying - they killed her, burned her body (and officially also WN's, though obviously he was instead given over to XY for some nail-control experiments) and then they threw away the ashes. It didn't need shown, and it would have been too much drama added to an already drama-filled arc.

For that reason, I guess, the scriptwriters also twitched some of the Wen Clan people's fate, having them hanged so that WWX could come see their bodies and lose it, instead of following the much bloodier plot of the novel.

My main favourite chara in the final eps? The mobster sidekick. At least HE was interested in doing his own business. Though seriously, you have the knife at her throat... and you go looking for MPC? What for? You're a killer, dontcha know how to kill all of the sudden?!

Let's not talk about the gas tank Chen Mo was supposed to "kill himself" with LOL. A hanging or drowning would have solved that way faster. But drama reasons...

EVERYBODY forgot about poor ZY while they were going to the hospital. Even the cleaning lady got to ride the ambulance... but nobody mentioned ZY. LOL. WTH, did all their schedules got mixed up out of the blue?!

And the open ending... I mean, if TJC makes another season of it, why not? The kid is also cute. But I'd rather have another Under the Skin season, if we're open for business.

Overall, at least it made me giggle from time to time. I'd have wanted to see ZY as a lady... one... more... time... :D

PS the over-reaching plot points never got solved. The guy who swindled the mom is who, exactly? The "General's" mob team, or somebody else? The Grey Heron guy is still crazy, why is his GF going crazy too?

MPC gets a lighter sentence because he loves his daughter. And HuPo guy humiliated QH in public, went after him in public... then apologized in private (nobody around AT ALL). OK then, I guess it's water under the bridge...

Oh well...

Things I've learned through this drama:

- don't catch a tiger by the tail / also don't let a tiger go back to its mountain.
- two nerds will NEVER succeed in a bossfight. Actually the boss will sweep the floor with both of them at once. Without a pencil, LOL.
- internet security? What internet security? Pei!!
- plot, what plot? Particularly when you're in your last few eps and the ML never appears in one of them AT ALL (minus the security message LOL). What was that, LOL?
- Zhou You on a mini-scooter coming to save the day. I should use that as a wallpaper but I wouldn't be able to do anything productive, I'd be LOLing every time I'd see it.

1. The focus is on the time loop, not the romance, but there is some romance.
2. They're not annoying in any way :)

It's not romance, it's mutual healing. She's too young for him, and he's too old for her (not just in years, but in experience and wisdom), and for once, that was respected by the writers. But that doesn't mean they can't support each other and help each other - then separate, if that's the way their respective lives go.

Thinking back on it, this makes me remember that saying - it takes a village to raise a child. It took DongHoon's whole family and circle of friends to rescue JiAhn and set her on the right path. So if anything, the relationship between them is nowhere near romantic, though at one time she seemed to be infatuated. They're more like father-figure and daughter.

But it works.

I felt it tries hard to be Mouse, rather, and it keeps missing the right note. The only question that seems to be important now it which number was RSH, and if he was 13, which number was RSJ. But as time passes and there's all this brainless action, I find less and less interest in waiting for a denouement.

I like it a lot (FoE) and definitely not because of the romance.

When the switch happened, they were both sporting blond hair, were of similar built, and none were familiar to any of the family's friends yet they had spent time around each other so anyone who had seen them together could believe he had them wrong or remembered them wrong. The son was away in school (and obviously around DHS's father) a lot, he got replaced pretty fast in the family portrait, AND DHS himself never went there much, particularly after he had a family. Also, the kid who played young DHS was very similar to LJG and at the same time, similar to KJH, so it wasn't impossible to accept.

But this comes from someone who likes FoE, so... Well.

That bloody nail is smarter than him. All he has is a powerful family, I guess that's how he managed to become a detective and not kept back year after year until he's retired.

Not to mention how the writer conveniently forgot his bouts of exact re-enactment of killing methods or whatnot, as soon as it was more shocky to see him go into dizzy spells each time he "remembers" things.

So it's definitely RSH, with some help from the two younger guys, I guess.

The first ep of the week had me completely disconnected, I kept finding other, better things to do with the ep in the background. The police team is still dumber than a rock, with the inclusion of the teen delinquent the RSJ team is also getting way dumber than it should be, and come ON! Doesn't anyone need to get to work?! How long can RSH go offline and his office not ask about it?! The police also has no other cases of any kind at all but lolling around waiting for yet ANOTHER murder to blame on RSJ, etc.

I TOLD RSJ not go on opening doors, he's going to get more people murdered, he can't help it LOL. As usual, RSH (aka the killer) is extremely right telling him he's no kind of a cop, he (RSJ) doesn't have the brains, the patience and the ability to ever investigate anything. How on Earth did he make detective?! I'm siding with Det. Kang on this.

I feel like the drama went the way of - less brain power needed, more shock factor. The skeleton where they find ATH's phone is probably No. 24's. How did RSH know where it was?

So far, RSH/RSJ (for the diverting of expectation angle) killed the first girl, then Choi the driver killed Coco-Mom, RSH finished ATH's job with Choi the driver and set up ATH's hanging, IMHO, but it sure looks like that's the way. Also RSH (with some tiny help from cute young juror what's his name) settled the Kang family, too.

Is it me or does it look like he's avenging RSJ as a kid, or their sister? He's got all those self-cuts on his arms, it looks like he's been tortured by it for a long time, and then he goes and points the finger ar No. 13 aka his lil' bro.

Those EXTREMELY SPECIFIC shoes will come back to bite him in the a**. For an intelligent serial killer, he's been pretty stupid with those, and with not observing YuNa following him.

I had higher hopes for the series... but there's still time to fix it all.

I dun geddit, where did the blood on his palms (both of them, too) come from?!