ShortCircuit

The "lunar" water HAS to be working on people - or Earth molecules, or the whole premise wouldn't make sense. And they do show the multiplying of water in contact with blood, so they waltzed past 1. xenomolecules being able to work on Earth molecules (there's a very high statistical chance that it can't happen, depending on what those xenomolecules actually are, but at this point, it's all scientific speculation) and 2. what ELSE does "lunar" water react to? We're only shown blood. It could be anything of Earth origin - but it didn't attack the metals, or plastics etc, just whatever was "living". That's too large an umbrella to leave outside of experiments, though.

If they said it's prone to attack ANYthing that's life-based (not just blood), then the fact the crew of the station was left behind would make sense, since they didn't know how many of them were exposed. But the complete and fast withdrawal makes no sense - an Earth-based lab would have separation doors (actually they use them in the series too, but NOT in the initial outbreak, because of reasons outside logic) to contain the spread of any biological compound. Particularly as they KNOW what they're doing there.

I don't know about the airlock. I initially thought it was because of the pressure gradient - like, it wouldn't open/close because the airlock wasn't emptied of air, as a precaution measure. But then the outside lock opens toward the outside?! The whole point of an airlock/pressure door is to keep closed when the outside is vacuum, and that means opening toward the inside (so if there's any chance of air/humans inside the airlock, they wouldn't be sucked out in case of a lock breakdown). But I haven't looked at actual space station airlocks, Maybe that one is according to rules of designing such a thing in real life. (For Earth buildings, doors have to open toward the outside to facilitate evacuation in case of fire hazard. But fire should not happen easily if at all in space facilities, if they build it right.) I don't know enough about that.

It's supposedly unethical to play with human clones etc but they had 73 of them ready to go, and the one that survived just so happened to be "awoken" looking similar in age and size to when she's found five years later, with just a wild bunch of longer hair to show time has passed for her too?! (Having not breathed and eaten and drunk? anything for those past five years too - but the hair does grow.)

If you think on it, it's all becoming more ridiculous. I've seen horror scifi that do a much better job with lesser visuals and cast. I blame the writing.

None of them were acting like professionals - the doctor wouldn't use gloves and masks except in the lab (why, did she think the virus they were suspecting won't be found outside the lab?!), the astronauts were more like walk-in replacement airline crews (the captain calmly accepted a replacement co-pilot in about 3 minutes before take off, what?!), there is only one who is a trained engineer - or so he says - what were the other people even supposed to do?! Go there and be cannon fodder?!

I get it, it's a dystopian world, and maybe the schooling system changed and/or standards slipped... but they treat space travel like going to the beach and nobody bats an eye when a billion-worth of equipment falls down in the crater. They're like, oh well, they'll send another to get us. If it was so easy, why didn't they do just that in the past 5 years, LOL?

So sad, I really have to learn to keep my hopes down...

So, if I wanted to have it make sense and I was one of the writers, I'd say Luna dragged some of them away as they were dying and used their bodies for the plants and/or food for herself. After all, most of the people in the station died locked up in Storage 3, and there definitely were NOT 117 bodies there. The bodies found outside were from raiders, so they said.

Instead of having so many, many shots of the Naruto-running and pipe-chasing in the station in the second half of the story, they would very well have moved the discovery of the clone story sooner and have Dr Song decypher what happened to the crew that was not on site in Storage 3, so that it doesn't stay just a horror scifi flick and gets more meaning. I could've done without the imaginary sisterly dialogue too - they weren't keeping in touch and yet Dr Song left her previous job as an astrobiologist because her sister died. It makes zero sense why she would be so affected if they were estranged...

IMHO, that's poor storytelling all around...

But plants are not alive as humans are alive (or fish, or whatever else creature that has a circulatory system and blood or another liquid inside that deals with life functions. And they didn't seem to end up destroyed, as the human bodies were. Sure, they could have mutated and adapted to the molecule or whatever, but still it doesn't make sense they'd proliferate with no actual nutrients and no sunlight - how would photosynthesis even work, anyway?! Luna - who seems to NOT have been breathing for 5 years (gills just sieve oxygen from water, they don't make fish or any other thing live with NO oxyen) couldn't have produced as much carbon dioxide for the plants to feed on, even if they had sunlight...

The captain was - supposedly - an astronaut. Or if not, water turning to ice immediately when exposed to very low temps should in the first handbooks on physics and chemistry, in the secondary school. How did he propose to keep the lock closed when the water pressure combined with the ice in process of being formed would - and did - explode through the least resistance surface anyway?!

And in the end, he did end up rolled over by the water - also supposedly - ouside, and NO ice on his suit though he was mucking around in the water spout, and NO cracks on his helmet because of reasons, and I guess they wanted to suggest there was a non-zero chance he'd make it to the incoming ship. Because he's a hero etc.

But seriously, there is NO chance of a living, breathing person (who could talk and cry, she definitely WAS breathing at some point, because that's how vocal chords work) to go outside in low vacuum and survive for any instance of time, with no pressure suit on. And not to mention the effing radiation... There are magnetic fields surrounding the Earth that save us from the worst of the Sun's radiation, and then a rather thick and dense atmosphere that deflects some of what does come through, and we still get skin cancers and whatnot from too much exposure - but this girl who is basically naked is strolling around with no care in the world, barefoot in 100K temps, not boiling off, not getting blisters, nothing... Even if she was a gene-modified clone of whoever, she used Earth-made genes, there was no alien thing inside her, and I know of no fish - or anything actually alive - that can survive direct space exposure...

Aaaargh. The more I think on it, the more I get angry, LOL.

He's not a killer. He doesn't kill anyone, but he does attack a few persons - mostly in self-defense.

He has some kind of mental health problem - probably somewhere in the autism range, highly performing, where he can't recognize the emotions of others or empathize with them. He's still able to feel emotions himself, he just can't recognize what they are. Think about it like he's someone emotions-blind like he would be colour-blind (he's not colour-blind though, LOL).

Go for it, if you're on the fence about it, it's worth it!

Ah Waterworld. The only movie I ever paid to see on the big screen and walked out in the middle of the showing. And I managed to struggle through Hollow Man, so it wasn't for lack of trying to stay there...

This doesn't fall as low as Waterworld for me, but on a scale of 0 to 10, The Martian (the novel) being a 10 and The Martian (the movie) being an 8, this is about a 3.5. I mean, there were some cool shots and I liked the sepia filter for the non-water world, LOL. But that was pretty much it.

I wouldn't outright call it boring - actually there are parts in the first half of the drama where there are pretty good jump scares. But the second half drags a lot and they throw everything about physics and maths out the airlock, which is not to be borne, IMHO.

Yeah, my problem with them is they're becoming kind of standard (even those you named are all pretty similar - horror / horror paranormal / bloody revenge story etc). And you already know what to expect from them - that's why I'm saying they're becoming too tropey and easily fitting into a mold, like Western dramas. The only thing still different from the shlock Netflix starts and ends in one season flat for the Western public, using Western actors, tropes, cultural norms etc, is that kdramas they produce still have SOME visible demarcation line (particularly those who are not only Netflix-airing). The actors look different enough to still be interesting to the public-at-large (I mean the casual kdrama watcher, not those who have watched more than the Netflix-produced dramas when they happen to get enough hype), the language is still intriguing, the cultural norms still aren't Western-cast (yet).

The thing with Netflix - and Disney+, lately - is that they HAVE the money to pay for whatever, produce it, throw it at the wall and see if it sticks. And the public will watch if for the novelty.

I don't have many sticks in this fire, so to say, but still... this is not the first kdrama that I was waiting for that managed to mess up in the end, in a pretty hurtful way - for me anyway. The horror stories they might do well with, but I have to admit I don't like horror and the paranormal-inclined and sci-fi I've seen, made with foreign investment, didn't convince me much...

I hope it's just because it's a new genre, but I do not expect it to be the case.

Edit: sorry for the rant, I'm still pretty miffed over this.

Not for me, not it wasn't worth the wait/watch. It depends on what you're expecting from it.

There are some cool shots of ships and the moon station and whatnot, but the story itself was pretty meh. Also, the ending is kind of make-what-you-will-of-it (there is an ending, just that it's the multiple meaning kind of dialogue, so that everything COULD still be in the air, just in case it makes enough waves for a second season...)

If you're for hard science, no, it's pretty much not The Martian, so to speak.

So TL:DR the rant above, Netflix is turning out to be for kdrama what Disney proved to be for the SW franchise (and pretty much anything else they've touched lately.)

WTF was that physics+maths in the final episode?! You get multiplied water from 1 person and it blows up the ventilation system, but multiplied water from 117 previous victims isn't anywhere in evidence (the station was locked down for 5 years but that water didn't get stored or frozen immediately?! (and how TF did those plants make do without nutrients and sunlight, that's another question...)

WTF did that girl do for 5 years, not breathing, not eating, in the dark, etc?! Where TF did they get 72+1 working clones of the same girl, all aged around 10-12, in those ? years the station was working?

Why the heck would there STILL be stray animals so feeding/watering strays is a felony, and who the heck is so rich to even GIVE them water anyway, how do they reproduce if the're not fed and watered?!

I don't get it - why did he have to stay behind and do whatever to the locks, the lock was open?! And whatever he did to the secondary locks didn't keep the water in place for 10 seconds. I get it, heroism etc - FFFFFFF IT!

How TF does that gill-girl NOT breathe in vacuum, and how come she doesn't slowly boil off in the effing sun?! How come the pressure gradient doesn't skin her alive WTF, isn't she basically lunar water in the end? They said it would stop multiplying when frozen to minus 80 Celsius, moon surface vacuum temps HAVE to be lower than 80 C! The Apollo missions measured vaccum pressure and temps and in the shadow the temp was around 100 K, more than double what "lunar water" would take to stop doing whatever it does.

AAAARGH.

And I had SUCH high hopes.

As for the actual story - well, the only ones I actually cared for were Chief Gong (because he was suspicious of an unknown alien thing as we ALL normal people would) and the Dr (forgot her name) because she was the only one who cared for each and every one of them. The leads and the villain could all go hang for all I care.

Which reminds me - how TF do you take a trained crew and send them to get mysterious samples from a closed off station, and they keep TOUCHING people dead from unknown diseases, maneouvre newly dead bodies WITH NOT EVEN GLOVES ON, WTH?!, NO MASKS basically the whole series, while fearing a potentially airborne virus...

THE HELL WAS THAT?!

I get it, kdrama gets more visible when internationally financed, but the downside is they keep mass-producing visual kei s**t and the Hallyu wave gets so watered down (ha!) that it's almost unrecognizable at times.

This thing above, whatever it wanted to be, could have very well been produced with an all-Western team of actors and crew, and you wouldn't have noticed the difference (and probably wouldn't have even watched it through.)

Edit: Oh and WTH was that Naruto run of the surviving clone?! Where was gravity in the meantime, taking a hike? Aah. I should stop thinking about this, LOL,

To think I waited for this for so long... :(

I want to pet all the bunnies in The Untamed, and I don't even like rabbits. And they don't even have one cat among the whole slew of animals in that drama (Xiao Zhan's own cat doesn't count for that, LOL.)

Is it me or is this purely a Korean version of Highlander mixed with some Tale of the Nine-Tailed?! I could only watch the first five minutes and I keep getting wave after wave of generic-supernatural-(but Korean-flavoured)-story-about-immortals-that-will-make-Netflix-money. At this point, I'm a bit burned off with their Korean productions.

So, would you recommend this to someone who has watched/read way too much fantasy and is kind of fed up with immortals right now? (I mean, immortals can be cool, but not if they're, as I said, Highlanders in Korean drag.)

Okay, I just freaking can't. Somebody please spoil me.

Yes, depending on how you want to take it. If you want them to be best bros, that's what they are. But they're in love (the characters, not the actors, I hope the difference is very clear) and passionate about it, despite the censorship. Just try to track LWJ's bouts of jealousy and WWX's cool-cat-got-into-the-cream slow smiles reserved for only LWJ. Because that's not how bros look at each other, LOL.

PS And if you want straight romance, there's that, too.

Retired commissioner was like, "oops. My 30 years of experience told me this is the guy but it turns out he isn't. Well then, I'll just leave this here for the prosecutor to deal with" (no remorse, no shouldering of responsibility for it.)

The prosecutor was like, "oops, we did a bad. We put it right though! There you go, you're free to leave."

The lawyer was like, "oops. I couldn't do better. Well, I tried. Little missy here in the cell doing a cameo, what's your problem? Here's my card, you're all bloodied up, I guess you killed someone - but you look innocent - I'm a third-rate lawyer who couldn't save his latest high profile client, let me do it again haha."

Family was like, "KHS, you're back, yay. We didn't mean to snub you when you were at your lowest, here's some kimchi stew, go right back to your old life."

KHS was like, "heh, guess I'm out. F*ck it, let's check if gravity still works. Yup, still does. Let's make an exit with a question of whether I'm going to experiment with gravity some more or not. Suck it, suckers!"

DJT would also have something to say - wait, he's dead. Oops.

So yeah, thinking on it some more, I'm pretty disappointed with this series, because it definitely showed it has an amazing potential. I am particularly unhappy with KHS's sea-change of a personality switch, from caring, scared, a little cowardly student, to a classic "lifer" hard-souled ex-convict. It doesn't happen like that, even if he lost all hope. But then, it's a short series, they didn't have time, etc.

PS LPT though - smoking does NOT cure asthma. Don't try this at home.

It had a great start and it was engaging (with some hiccups along the way) up to ep 6 then it just... changed. I'm not totally unhappy with the ending and I don't consider it an open ending... but it's pretty lacklustre.

Therapy per se is not a banning offense (think getting some therapy after a shooting or any kind of violent incident). But someone with a serious mental health problem - like DID, in this case - would definitely jeopardize any case they're working on, since they'd have to be of sound mind to make split-second decisions and testify if they're called to.

Even IF they're highly functioning and getting continuous treatment, a good lawyer could always put their sanity in doubt, and win their case. I'm not in SK either, but I think it's an universal thing wherever there're actual police regs and procedures and the corruption levels are low.

If no one follows procedures, or they don't exist... I guess it's the wild west of policing and anything would go.