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Replying to Deerview Jan 5, 2022
JOL was produced originally by Tencent and Iqiyi, so any sequel would need to make sure their profit sharing agreement…
That schedule was planned for the start, and I think it's so tencent have a longer broadcasting period.
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Replying to JFiio Jan 5, 2022
How are you watching episode 33 if episode 30 is not even aired yet?
MHH s2 isn't his :P It's Qin Wen's, who has a team of writers under her and they work super fast, a lot of MHH's lines were ad libbed by Guo Qilin so on set writers and director probably helped too. Young Blood s2 is suppose to start filming Q1 (per mangotv's promotion pamphlet) so he's either writing it now or half way done, there's bunch of other writers for YB2, he mostly have to oversee things. I have no idea if he's still writing s2 for DLDL or not, I hope not, he got so much hate for it.
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Replying to twiz aka unagibento Jan 5, 2022
Title Luoyang
I was waiting the entire show for Lord of Winter and Lord of Summer. I'm upset over this Two Seasons Clan.I loved…
That's a mistranslation, in Chinese the sect/clan is called Spring & Autumn, which also a historical period.
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Replying to paxxie Dec 31, 2021
You mean the falling rating in douban? Maybe what you like isn't what the Chinese audience like?
Even with all the loud complaints by chinese netizens, it's still the most watched drama at the moment and should be in top 3 for tencent with little issues, so don't worry too much about critical ratings, viewcount = money, money shouts louder.
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Replying to paxxie Dec 31, 2021
You mean the falling rating in douban? Maybe what you like isn't what the Chinese audience like?
People rating it early tend to love the show, so when others that might not care for the genre/cast/story come in, they might rate it lower, it's generally a good thing since that means more people are watching.

As for criticism, there's fair amount about the fight choreography, directing, pacing, FL's casting and acting (I'm fine with her acting, but I don't think she's the right casting choice) etc.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Dec 30, 2021
Wow - that’s about halfway to YAMG’s inflated 4bn!!!
? gaming companies wouldn't do that, it's more likely to be fans that don't like the leads. I've watched the drama, I've read the novel before the watching drama, I followed the stats and reception from start till ending, I know the promotion tactics that it and other dramas used, I literally said it in my post, you really don't need to tell me about it.
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Replying to kitty10 Dec 30, 2021
Some of the Douban comments for this drama are actually pretty constructive, pointing out what works and what…
you absolutely can :P you have to realise douban was created for movie fanatics initially, it has since expanded, but its heavy users are movie fantatics, veteran drama watchers, fandom users, so mostly pretty young. But China have a lot of people, people that don't care about issues that veteran drama watchers care (like tropey), or plagiarism issues, or scandals. Heck, some might care, but that doesn't mean they won't watch the drama, they can watch it and give it 1 star, that's their right.

The most watched drama for iqiyi by a fairly large margin is my heroic husband, sitting at 6.3 mostly due to a fantastic start. The second is My Dear Guardian with a 4.2, the score is mostly due to first two episodes that's tropey and hits a lot of douban's nope buttons. There are plenty of tv dramas with high tv ratings that make people angry as hell, and rate it 2 star (a 4), but will keep watching.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Dec 30, 2021
Wow - that’s about halfway to YAMG’s inflated 4bn!!!
Give him a canto background should work. I don't even know what Yang Mi is filming right now, I know she has a modern drama with Xu Kai that's fighting for slot in Jan and Feb? Xu Kai's first undubbed drama lol.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Dec 30, 2021
Wow - that’s about halfway to YAMG’s inflated 4bn!!!
I wouldn't call it incorrect to say the views are inflated, since HnK have massive amount of players (no.1 domestically by vast margin, at its peak, its daily revenue can fund a S+ drama), and by putting it into the game, it's a huge promotion tactic but tencent have always tried various methods to "inflate" views for dramas they see fit. It's just the term inflate seem to mean fake to some, when it's various promotion tactics that cause people to click on it (YAMG actually had a watch drama for 0.7 yuan at some point iirc).
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Dec 30, 2021
Wow - that’s about halfway to YAMG’s inflated 4bn!!!
LMAO, they look good together, film a modern drama please.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Dec 30, 2021
Wow - that’s about halfway to YAMG’s inflated 4bn!!!
SSS is doing far better than Pearl Eclipse lol, viewcount wise. i think on the membership list (popular drama or whatever, I'm pretty sure it measures people watching dramas using membership or first drama they watch after subbing/resubbing), it should pass Pearl Eclipse today or tomorrow.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Dec 30, 2021
Actually the Douban comments are not that bad, in fact there are quite a few well written and in-depth constructive…
Youku have bunch of xianxia next year, we'll see how it fares. For SSS specifically, tv broadcast is ok for it because it still have decent viewership, it's just it doesn't pay much, but a penny is a penny.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Dec 29, 2021
Wow - that’s about halfway to YAMG’s inflated 4bn!!!
JoL is 9.5b for tencent, it's also broadcasted on iqiyi, which is about the same size as tencent so that's 19b for a drama that's 2 years and a month old. SSS was meant to be another JoL, significant amount of its audience are from JoL. For reference, mid feb 2020, a month after JoL non vip finished broadcasting, tencent had 7.7billion, with half the drama leaked + half the drama fast tracked. Dramas get most of their viewcounts during broadcast, wildly popular dramas tend to get revisited every year.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Dec 29, 2021
Wow - that’s about halfway to YAMG’s inflated 4bn!!!
They weren't forced to watch the video to advance the game, it's one of the daily quests you can do to potentially obtain a hero, you can skip the option. I know the players were pissed, as they normally do when 3d people invade their games lol. The daily lasted 2 weeks+. HnK as a company is one of its producers, the first half of the drama serve as a long ad for the game (that's how the novel was written cos author was obsessed with the game at the time), it's a product literally made where it'd bring new and old players back to the game, it invited real esport players and commentators to cameo the drama, so it was a given HnK would promote it.

I'd note that the drama is also produced by both tencent pictures and penguin pictures, that's two competing production subsidiary (first time i see them cooperate) + top earning gaming subsidiary for a drama, with two very popular pretty leads and the most successful modern webnovel author, tencent NEEDS it to succeed for its ip development narrative :P Just like tencent needs this to succeed too because it has pile of ip waiting to be developed.
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Replying to QueenCherry Dec 29, 2021
Am I the only one who dont get the Douban hype? Why are they considered relevant still? Back in the day it was…
1 star rating attacking actors and actresses have been a thing since 2015 (or before, but I didn't use the site before :P). It's true that it's influenced by fandom but it was before too, just matter of scale thing, if anything, 2019 had inflated ratings IMO, 2021 kind of deflated it back to before. Even taking into account fandoms, water armies, mismatch promotion tactics, expectation level, outside drama such as plagiarism or animal abuse (true or not), I still find it more reliable than platform ratings or MDL, it's just you have to discern what rating is good by douban (7+ for general dramas, 6+ for fluff dramas, 6+ for mystery dramas), what it likes, what has big question mark due to fandom. It doesn't really mean that a 5 drama might not be your fav, maybe the problems that bother them doesn't bother you?
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Dec 29, 2021
Actually the Douban comments are not that bad, in fact there are quite a few well written and in-depth constructive…
The traditional view have always been tv stations had upper hand, and web broadcasting were always on a delay, to the point they have a term for dramas where web broadcasting is ahead of tv broadcasting, it's just not the case for SSS. I'm sure they wanted something that's even more favourable, but as it is, tencent > cctv for SSS, cctv itself have pile of dramas that its audience like lot more than SSS. Pearl Eclipse I feel like putting it on tv was another way to draw in audience, the otp have enough audience base amongst older gen for that.

Aren't the platforms struggling because they are buying massive amount of dramas and spending fortune on questionable projects? At least that's what it looks like on the outside. When you put out what was it 200 dramas (maybe it was 150) a year for iqiyi, a veteran drama watcher might only heard of 50 and your average person might heard of 5, it's kind of rough. They essentially rely on top 10 or 20 to pull in new subbers. Granted I guess 50 of those might be indie projects that rely on clicks for revenue split + short dramas but still.

The fast track offset the member drainage to short videos basically. douyin and such also affected tv ratings too to be fair, and why tv stations are getting more broke every year. With the current situation, and further clamp down on actor salary, I hope that means that it kicks out people who can't act, and producers consider whether this actor fit the role or not, and stop giving me horribly written dramas.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Dec 28, 2021
Actually the Douban comments are not that bad, in fact there are quite a few well written and in-depth constructive…
The rumoured budget is way too high and not at all believable considering it's a 2020 project. Even LoF's ridiculous budget (that they wasted) isn't that high. I have no idea where the rumoured budget came from, LoF's and TLB at least had financial reports, this one straight up didn't. 750m is a 2018 level budget, aka Longest Day of Chang'an, tRoP, Rebel Princess, Palace of Devotion (i think the budget is higher for this one rip, production companies) There was a screencap of a post with 800m, but it was 2019 post, with Hou Minghao as lead and for three seasons lol, but it was an uncomfirmed rumour that wasn't widely spread (I don't remember seeing it personally)

I actually don't think tencent lost control over the schedule, the schedule is on purpose. Both Pearl Eclipse and SSS's web schedule are ahead of tv schedule, that means they have more say in this. It's entirely possible for 9.30 slot to air two or three episodes as cctv 8 normally do. There's only one exception, and that's Crime Crackdown airing with Ideal City during summer, CC also had fast track, so again they had upper hand in it. I always presumed the schedule is like this because they air big dramas in a month, which gives ample time for buzz and relevance and people to catch up, then pay subscriptions to watch the ending cos they came in during the 3rd week.

Speculation, I think it might be NCM that needs cashflow, it was in real rush selling Deer & Cauldron and My Best Friend's Story to cctv8 before the year ended last year to make the profit promise. MBFS finished filming in July, it normally should only line up for this year late Q1 or Q2. MHH was slated for Q4 and rushed post production to make the CNY air date. Other NCM projects that aired on cctv8 this year, DLDL, the Rebel, the new Demi God and Semi Devil. cctv is rumour to pay fairly little (compared to provincial stations, but those stations are now broke as heck too, if you look at their line up), but tend to pay really quickly. If MHH had a tv license, it would have definitely went on tv too, the Golden Hairpin probably would have gone to cctv as well. NCM have real knack of pushing their dramas onto tv, which is hard to do when your projects are all huge. Wind blow from Longxi is on cctv's list too by the way.
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Replying to Enigma05 Dec 25, 2021
It's doing decently for a December drama (supposedly this is the month when dramas don't do too well over there).
vlinkage relies on baidu searches and buzz as well as front end viewcounts can be inflated, but when you literally just have buzz, it's uh not the most accurate.
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Replying to Skibbies Dec 25, 2021
try young blood? Luoyang I'm not caught up, I have some minor issues with the frantic pacing and choppy editing,…
It's by wang juan, JoL and SSS's scriptwriter, but Young blood is his original script. Lower budget, more adventure-ish, lot more plot twists, more bright colours, the fight scenes are terrible IMO but it's not the focus. The closest comparison drama I can think of doesn't have subs, and Ancient Detective (ensemble adventure) is more wuxia + mystery, so this is closest I can do.
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Replying to Enigma05 Dec 25, 2021
It's doing decently for a December drama (supposedly this is the month when dramas don't do too well over there).
I wouldn't really recommend datawin, since it checks for buzz but doesn't take into account viewcounts for some reason. vlinkage is probably slightly better?
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