It was about Jin Do Joon being reborn as Yoon Hyun Woo and becoming rich!1. Yoon Hyun Woo did not die, he was…
It appears that way because we're "reviewing" his past life from what information he was able to "remember".
Remembering your past life, at least as far as reincarnation theory goes, is not 100% exact. Your present memory will fill in the blanks.
This is why he wondered if it was a dream.
But, it can not be a dream because it is history. And as he himself said, it wasn't possession nor time travel either.
The only way is reincarnation. But it wasn't HW who was reincarnated, he was in a coma for 1 week. It was DJ who was reincarnated.
The actual events, like what you mentioned, the success of Miracle Investment, were simply filled in by HW's mind trying to make sense of what he was going through. Because after all, it doesn't make any sense for him. And this is what our minds do naturally when something is far too much for us to comprehend; or if we can not remember things exactly, we fill in the blanks.
But in the actual history, it is safe to assume that DJ was actually brilliant (and probably lucky). Knowledge of the future is not required, he's just that good with predicting the market and what's going to happen.
OH-EM-GEE. The title "Reborn Rich" was not about Yoon Hyun Woo being re-born as Jin Do Joon.More inside.
It was about Jin Do Joon being reborn as Yoon Hyun Woo and becoming rich!
1. Yoon Hyun Woo did not die, he was in a coma for 1 week. He can not be reborn at all.
2. When Jin Do Joon died in the 2nd car crash, Jin Do Joon was reborn as Yoon Hyun Woo. Who later became rich.
3. The "Timeline 2" did not exist. As Yoon Hyun Woo said so himself that it was not time travel, nor possession. It was a repentance for both Jin Do Joon and Yoon Hyun Woo, because it's both him. His life as Yoon Hyun Woo is his second chance. The coma gave him a chance to recall his life as Jin Do Joon.
Everything else happened, other than the small changes, exactly the way it did.
"Reborn Rich" also meant being a new person rich with values.
"Reborn Rich" also meant being reborn as a new person after his brush with death, and coming out of the coma (was "reborn").
Re: Repentance 1. As Yoon Hyun Woo, this is his repentance because he chose money over reporting the murder.
2. As Jin Do Joon, it is his repentance because he did do things he shouldn't, he actually became his grandfather in the end.
== When Jin Do Joon was reborn as Yoon Hyun Woo, it was his chance to repent as Jin Do Joon (previous life) and as Yoon Hyun Woo (present life).
In the end, Yoon Hyun Woo became part of Miracle, the company he founded in his previous life as Jin Do Joon.
That was one heck of a story twist. Totally unexpected.
idc if its sad ending i want naksu to be strong lady boss again
I'm starting to doubt that.
As far as the entire Part 1, and ep1 and ep2 of Part 2, are concerned, it looks like the only way she can survive is if the new identity, NakYeon, asserts itself.
Remember what Master Lee said? Since he removed Bu Yeon's soul, the body's divine powers is simply that, raw. Nothing's going to control it, nor use its abilities properly.
In Part 1, Bu Yeon's soul was there controlling and using the different abilities of the divine power. For one, Bu Yeon kept the balance between the body's divine power, and the fact that Nak Su's soul is a soul shifter (she will petrify no matter what).
In Part 2, the petrified body was kept alive because Bu Yeon was still there in the body.
However, the only way to reverse the petrification is to remove Bu Yeon's soul, because Bu Yeon's soul is keeping the divine power "locked up" or "under her control".
When Bu Yeon's soul was removed by Master Lee, the body's raw divine power fought the petrification.
The problem is, it will also reject Nak Su's soul. She's a parasite soul. It is not her body.
So, Master Lee tied the two together. The divine power and Nak Su's energy (not the soul shifter energy).
The side-effect is she no longer have any memories, and both her divine power and Nak Su's power were subdued. Not locked-up per se, just in constanct balance.
Divine is preventing petrification; Nak Su's energy feeding the body with energy it needs to fight the petrification. (Without Bu Yeon's soul, there's body doesn't have enough energy to use.)
This enabled the birth of a new identity: NakYeon.
Also, Jin Mu said in Part 2, this new identity has a different energy/aura. She has the face of Nak Su, but her energy is not Nak Su's. She has divine powers, but her energy is not Bu Yeon's.
In other words, for her to survive, the new identity, NakYeon, must assert itself and put the body's divine power, and Nak Su's tremendous energy, under her control.
If the new identity-NakYeon-fails to assert herself, the body will reject Nak Su's soul. Without the energy of Nak Su's soul, the body wouldn't have enough energy to fight the petrification. Eventually, the petrification will restart and she will die permanently.
NakYeon must assert her identity. Make the body her own. And Make Nak Su's memories her own. If she rejects Nak Su's memories, she will not be able to control Nak Su's energies. She needs Nak Su's energy so the body can continually fight the petrification. She needs to accept that the body was Bu Yeon's soul, so she can control the divine energy and stop it from rejecting Nak Su's soul.
also can someone please explain to me the whole naksu / bu yeon body situation?
Part 1:
* Bu Yeon is blind by birth because her divine/priestess power is about seeing energies. She has to be blind to see the energy around her. * Nak Su, Part 1 Episode 1, was caught in a desperate situation, she used the soul the ejector to cast the alchemy of soul spell * However, before that, she bumped into the blind Bu Yeon. Bu Yeon saw her of course (her tremendous energy). * Since Bu Yeon has a natural affinity to the Ice Stone (as well as her Divine Power), when Nak Su used the soul ejector, Bu Yeon easily overriden the spell.
Instead of Nak Su's soul going into her victim's body, Bu Yeon absorbed Nak Su's soul.
* In the entire Part 1, Bu Yeon used Nak Su so the body can see and move naturally. * Bu Yeon used Nak Su's soul so they can retrieve the Ice Stone Jin Mu and the queen stole. * At the same time, she trained and shaped Nak Su, because Bu Yeon knew there's no turning back. Eventually, only one of them can live in the body. * Bu Yeon also knew she is on borrowed time. Somehow, she probably figured out she already died, and the Ice Stone was used to bring her soul back into the body inside her mother's womb (which explains her affinity to the Ice Stone). * Based on the last two episodes of Part 1, Bu Yeon knew she's the one who should leave the body and give it to Nak Su.
Eventually, that's what happened. Bu Yeon sort of sealed herself and let Nak Su take over. But unfortunately, Jin Mu, triggered Nak Su's being a soul shifter. Since Bu Yeon sort of sealed herself, and technically was also weakened (because of her mother), her diving powers weakened. It was Bu Yeon who was preventing Nak Ssu from petrifying. Without her, Nak Su petrified, and jumped to the Lake.
End of Part 1.
Beginning of Part 2.
Jin Mama retrieved the petrified body of Mu Deok.
Master Lee was shocked that the petrified body is alive.
Master Lee explained that the Divine power of Bu Yeon's soul and the tremendous power of Nak Su's soul, are both acting to keep the petrified body alive.
Unfortunately, Master Lee realised there is only one way to save the body.
== Remove Bu Yeon's soul
By removing Bu Yeon's soul, the Divine powers that is naturally in the body will be released. (Bu Yeon's soul sort of sealed it, and also weakened too.)
By letting the Divine powers resurface, the petrification will reverse. The Divine power is more powerful than a soul shifter side-effect (petrification, absorbing energies, etc.)
But since the body will reject the parasite soul (i.e. the soul that doesn't belong to it), Master Lee tied the divine power to Nak Su's tremendous energy (not the soul shifter side-effect energy).
The side-effect of tying the divine power and Nak Su's energy is she becomes a new person. No memories, and no powers at all.
Even her aura is different, It is neither Bu Yeon nor Nak Su.
As far as Master Lee is concerned, if she startss to regain her memories as Nak Su, or the body's natural divine powers re-emerges, the body will start to reject the parasite soul.
If that happens, the soul-shifter side-effect will once again restart, she will petrify once again.
Unfortunately. Without Bu Yeon's souls, once she petrifies again, she will permanently die. Basically, Master Lee hinted that the natural divine power of the body is incomplete without Bu Yeon's soul. Bu Yeon's soul is like the master key to it, as well as, the master controller on how to unleash the abilities of the divine power (for example, in Part 1, Bu Yeon kept a balance of between herself and Nak Su's powers).
So, now, in Part 2, it is totally unknown what will happen if NakYeon recovers her memories and powers. Will the body reject Nak Su's soul and restart the petrification process? Or, will the body and Nak Su's soul accept each other because of the new identity that is NakYeon that was built?
I'm thinking the latter will happen. The new identity and aura/energy that is NakYeon, will assert itself over the desire of the body to reject Nak Su's soul. At the same time, the NakYeon identity will assert itself over Nak Su's powers and past.
Basically, the new identity and aura that is NakYeon, will fight for her new existence and keep control of the body's divine powers (like Bu Yeon's soul did in Part 1); and keep Nak Su's power intact but without her past sins.
The new NakYeon identity will probably achieve something similar to Part 1, a balance between Bu Yeon and Nak Su's souls. But this time, it's the new identity that will keep the opposing powers intact.
Episode 15: This is why you shouldn't change the past.
When he survived his original death date as the 4-2, it changed everything.
I'm guessing, his previous self was not hired to work for the Soonyang clan. Instead, he ended up as a hired killer, or at least, the person hired to set things up (and someone does the killing).
His previous self also grew up differently. I mean, he didn't even realize his look-alike was the one who kept doing things, so his father can get money. His look-alike saved Soonyang Motors; and then later ensured they'll be given another chance with their debt and loans.
Something changed with his previous self that he ended up being the guy who set things up for Mr. 4-2 to die.
I wonder if in Episode 16, they will finally focus on his previous self and show us where the change occurred?
My suspicion is, when Mr. 4-2 bought his mother's eatery business. Then her mother committed suicide. Mr. Previous self probably assumed that was the reason his mother killed herself. So, he harboured bad feelings for Mr. 4-2.
In a time travel plot, one trope is showing how a small change can ripple into something very big.
If this is the case, then, everything else up to the first car crash happened exactly as it did previously.
From the car crash onwards, when 4-2 survived, those events are new.
However, none of it matters at all.
Because the small change was where the timeline actually diverged. That small change is his mother's cause of death. Instead of a heart attack, it was suicide.
His previous self just didn't do anything about it yet, he was still a student. When 4-2 survived the first crash, that was also probably things started to change with Mr. Previous Self.
A small change which rippled out and became something very big.
It might have been the fate of his mother to die. But the cause of her death affected Mr. Previous Self differently.
Maybe when 4-2 died at the car crash, it was also the time when Mr. Previous Self started working for Soonyang. But because 4-2 survived this time, things changed dramatically, and worse, he connected 4-2 with her mother's suicide.
(It's easier to explain it with diagrams, lols. But I'm bad with it. :P )
Actually, it was hinted in the early episodes. Just that, majority of us refused to believe it.Anyway, it wasn't…
True, there are many variables involved.
However, as the series, and in particular episode 16, said, it is the cycle of life. Sooner or later, we will all die.
As her father said, it is the duty of the children to see their parents leave the world, and for them to be happy.
So, even if her father doesn't day on that exact date, for that exact incident, he can still die because he is ready to go out of his way to help strangers.
> If you were a single mother with a kid and no one to depend on, would you really go out of your way and put your life in danger to save someone elses life?
Yeah. I've seen people who did that. I seriously doubt you haven't seen people do that in your own country. You don't have policemen? You don't have firefighters? Rescue teams? Disaster teams who risk their lives for others, even if they have a family that relies on them? Or, some other ordinary guy who went into action to save another?
> such idealistic thoughts are hard to digest
It isn't idealistic, it's reality. ^_^ If it is idealistic for you, then it means you do not understand why, for example, firefighters would risk their lives for others? Or, why some random person did?
Again, I seriously doubt there were no news of such heroic acts in your own country.
> what if she didnt take the job and studied and stayed at home itself. Maybe the dad wouldnt have taken that job because she would have been there at home and could have prevented him from taking that job.
As her dad explained, he did not take the job for her studies. He took the job for the day she gets married, when the time comes when she gets her own house.
So, even if she did study and stayed home, her dad would still secretly take that job. And as far as the story goes, that day would still come.
> What if after studying super hard she got a high paying job which would have made the dad not worry too much about her welfare and money.
But you've forgotten that her dad's death date happened during her preparation years. So, even if she later gets a high paying job, as far as the story goes, her father would be long gone by the time she passes her exams. She already failed once, or twice. Her third opportunity is yet to arrived by the time her father died.
> There are way too many paths this could have taken.
Yes, there are. But, as episode 16 summarised the entire series, we will all die one day. Her father will still die no matter what, for whatever reason. If his father did not die that day, he could've died after being stabbed by some random criminal. Or, he could've died after slipping, and he hit his head against the pavement.
That's the whole point of the series, death is a part of the cycle of life. It is unavoidable. It is just a matter of when.
You can forget about “people going out of their way to help strangers”. His father can be someone who doesn't care if the pregnant lady dies that day. Or, his father probably was not on duty that day, or, the pregnant lady did not come at that moment. His father will still die eventually, destiny/fate or not.
im dropping this at episode 15.read reviews...im not going here to cry.
There's a very good message that can only be absorbed if you watch it. ^_^
You don't have to watch it immediately, just consider watching it sometime later. Reading reviews will never capture the message of episode 16, and the entire series.
why would the writers do that? Maybe that job was a curse afterall(╯ರ ~ ರ）╯︵ ┻━┻
Actually, it was hinted in the early episodes. Just that, majority of us refused to believe it.
Anyway, it wasn't a curse. It's actually a comfort for her.
If you believe in destiny and/or fate, then his father would die on that day, for that very reason. If she wasn't given the spiritual “Stella's touch”, it would've devastated her. But because she was able to spend 3+ hours with her father, she was able to accept her new reality faster.
If you don't believe in destiny and/or fate, instead you believe in free will, the show established it is about helping people. It was not just through her helping the dead for their last request, even the police officer helped people. And the business of the male lead character was also about helping people.
Her father did the same thing, he helped protect a pregnant woman.
Later in the episode, it was further firmly established that the show was about helping people. Going out of our way to help strangers. The fire explosion tragedy. Seven people went out of their way to help others, where the male lead was as a little boy, and the female lead was still in her mother's womb who was working in that building.
It's not a curse.
Yes, it was a cruel. And, even in real life, a person who did good and ended up dead to save another life, is cruel. But as her father said, such is the cycle of life. We live and we die. Death is simply part of life. And thus, we should value the people around us, even those we do not have any blood relations. It is our relationship with others that makes us happy.
Compare that to the police officer, while he is not a psychopath by definition, he ended up distancing himself from any meaningful relationships. Even his relationship with the male lead was not exactly 100%. He intentionally came closer with him because he felt guilty. Yes, he did value the male lead as his older brother, but there's something else behind that relationship he built.
If the police officer had good relationships, he would have fulfilled his mother's wish for him to live a happy life.
It isn't a curse, but yes it was cruel. Life is cruel. Why die?
So, let's live happy by building meaningful and genuine relationships. Not only do we make our own lives happy, but other people's lives too. Once we are at death's door, we can happily say, “I've finished the race of life well”. And the people who will remember us will say, “They lived a happy and fulfilling life.”
Couldn't agree more. For a story using supernatural elements to meet dead people it was an incredibly down to…
Exactly!
Every scene, the sequence of those scenes, were well-thought of. And them dedicating 40 minutes to it also helped. Perfectly executed.
It was like we were there. We were the character.
And it was a good decision they didn't ask her to cry during those home scenes. The audience was already in her shoes at that point, her crying while remembering her precious memories, would've been a distraction away from it.
Her character was like anyone would be, trying to fight the tears back, and learning to accept the new reality. Being strong because we have to continue living for the people who went ahead of us.
Super duper perfect execution and episode. We can write an entire book with just that one episode.
I don't like how she is treating ML even if he did wrong and behaved kind of lame. Curious to know why she is…
This is just my analysis.
She's hurt deep inside. She reached the point in her life where she just wants to live and get by, without any distraction.
She now sees relationships as a distraction. If it will hurt her, she distances herself immediately. If there is any chance something will not work, she stays away.
She now have a black-and-white view of everyone.
I can relate. In fact, the opening monologue of episode 2 made me realize why the character is "familiar", she's partly me.
Allow me to explain further.
1. I'm undergrad. While I did enter college, the treatment is the same as you never did, or never finished high school… like her character.
If you succeed better than the graduates, you'll feel the pressure. And if there are managers who were hired from outside the company, and they happen to be high and mighty, they'll find ways to make your life miserable because for them, only graduates should have your position and success.
2. Back in late 2020, my then girlfriend of 15 years left me hanging. Just like that, we're over.
Since then, I no longer trust any women. Trust in relationships. I know not all women would do what my ex did (and other stuff she did). But, I am still deeply hurt. I am deeply broken. Deeply damaged. That my trust of women when it comes to relationships is in pieces, too.
Before I saw episode 1, since the break up, I'm always thinking what I would do if I start to see "signs". And my conclusion happens to be similar to what our fictional character did … cut-off immediately.
I haven't finished watching episode 2 at this point. I paused at 06:13. So, the above was only based on what I know so far about her character; and trying to relate to it from my own experiences.
What was the explainatio for her powers anyway? Given the 21 people died in a fire thing was is some sort of "sins…
It wasn't "sins of the father" or "to pay the ultimate price".
She got the spiritual version of "Stella's touch" because: 1. Her birth was a miracle
2. 21 people because of the explosion tragedy
3. Her mother died because she chose to help a little boy instead of taking care of herself (she's pregnant, she's more vulnerable)
4. Her ability was to grant one final request for the 7 people directly related to the tragedy. The 7 people who went out of their way to help others.
5. Her ability was also meant to solve the death of the male lead's brother.
6. She, or her dad, did not pay any "price". Her dad was simply one of those people who would go out of their way to help other people, putting their own safety and survival aside. Just like how those 7 people did during the tragedy. (Which her mother was one.)
7. This is her, having the chance to also help others…
… and learn the value of life and relationships. Which led to the male lead character to also go back to his profession of saving lives.
And, like her father said, it's the cycle of life.
Now, if you believe in destiny or fate, and not of free will, well, her ability allowed her to have one final moment with her dad. Because if destiny or fate is real, then her dad would have died that day no matter what. If she didn't have the ability, she probably would take years to move on and have a positive outlook in life, it would devastate her.
HOW DOES ONE DIE JUST CUZ A FUCKING POT FELL??? Explain the kdrama logic!!
Oh, you CAN DEFINITELY die from it.
1. It was a huge pot. By the looks of it, it wasn't your cheap and light pot.
2 It was like 10 to 15 floors high. Which means gravity would increase the speed and impact.
3. The way the father shielded the pregnant lady was his back was arch, thus his backbone was more exposed.
4. We can also assume the pot fell on his head.
5. He's 50+ years old. And the way his daughter wants him to stop working (was even angry at him when she discovered he's working), would mean his eyes failing was not the only ailment he had. We can safely assume he was definitely not in good shape.
To sum it all up, yeah, he will certainly die from.
In fact, just #1 and #2 can kill you already, especially if it's #4, fell on your head (which again they did not show).
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Remembering your past life, at least as far as reincarnation theory goes, is not 100% exact. Your present memory will fill in the blanks.
This is why he wondered if it was a dream.
But, it can not be a dream because it is history. And as he himself said, it wasn't possession nor time travel either.
The only way is reincarnation. But it wasn't HW who was reincarnated, he was in a coma for 1 week. It was DJ who was reincarnated.
The actual events, like what you mentioned, the success of Miracle Investment, were simply filled in by HW's mind trying to make sense of what he was going through. Because after all, it doesn't make any sense for him. And this is what our minds do naturally when something is far too much for us to comprehend; or if we can not remember things exactly, we fill in the blanks.
But in the actual history, it is safe to assume that DJ was actually brilliant (and probably lucky). Knowledge of the future is not required, he's just that good with predicting the market and what's going to happen.
^_^
I think I should just post in both places, at least to ensure it's visible and easily found.
1. Yoon Hyun Woo did not die, he was in a coma for 1 week. He can not be reborn at all.
2. When Jin Do Joon died in the 2nd car crash, Jin Do Joon was reborn as Yoon Hyun Woo. Who later became rich.
3. The "Timeline 2" did not exist. As Yoon Hyun Woo said so himself that it was not time travel, nor possession. It was a repentance for both Jin Do Joon and Yoon Hyun Woo, because it's both him. His life as Yoon Hyun Woo is his second chance. The coma gave him a chance to recall his life as Jin Do Joon.
Everything else happened, other than the small changes, exactly the way it did.
"Reborn Rich" also meant being a new person rich with values.
"Reborn Rich" also meant being reborn as a new person after his brush with death, and coming out of the coma (was "reborn").
Re: Repentance
1. As Yoon Hyun Woo, this is his repentance because he chose money over reporting the murder.
2. As Jin Do Joon, it is his repentance because he did do things he shouldn't, he actually became his grandfather in the end.
== When Jin Do Joon was reborn as Yoon Hyun Woo, it was his chance to repent as Jin Do Joon (previous life) and as Yoon Hyun Woo (present life).
In the end, Yoon Hyun Woo became part of Miracle, the company he founded in his previous life as Jin Do Joon.
That was one heck of a story twist. Totally unexpected.
More inside.
As far as the entire Part 1, and ep1 and ep2 of Part 2, are concerned, it looks like the only way she can survive is if the new identity, NakYeon, asserts itself.
Remember what Master Lee said? Since he removed Bu Yeon's soul, the body's divine powers is simply that, raw. Nothing's going to control it, nor use its abilities properly.
In Part 1, Bu Yeon's soul was there controlling and using the different abilities of the divine power. For one, Bu Yeon kept the balance between the body's divine power, and the fact that Nak Su's soul is a soul shifter (she will petrify no matter what).
In Part 2, the petrified body was kept alive because Bu Yeon was still there in the body.
However, the only way to reverse the petrification is to remove Bu Yeon's soul, because Bu Yeon's soul is keeping the divine power "locked up" or "under her control".
When Bu Yeon's soul was removed by Master Lee, the body's raw divine power fought the petrification.
The problem is, it will also reject Nak Su's soul. She's a parasite soul. It is not her body.
So, Master Lee tied the two together. The divine power and Nak Su's energy (not the soul shifter energy).
The side-effect is she no longer have any memories, and both her divine power and Nak Su's power were subdued. Not locked-up per se, just in constanct balance.
Divine is preventing petrification; Nak Su's energy feeding the body with energy it needs to fight the petrification. (Without Bu Yeon's soul, there's body doesn't have enough energy to use.)
This enabled the birth of a new identity: NakYeon.
Also, Jin Mu said in Part 2, this new identity has a different energy/aura. She has the face of Nak Su, but her energy is not Nak Su's. She has divine powers, but her energy is not Bu Yeon's.
In other words, for her to survive, the new identity, NakYeon, must assert itself and put the body's divine power, and Nak Su's tremendous energy, under her control.
If the new identity-NakYeon-fails to assert herself, the body will reject Nak Su's soul. Without the energy of Nak Su's soul, the body wouldn't have enough energy to fight the petrification. Eventually, the petrification will restart and she will die permanently.
NakYeon must assert her identity. Make the body her own. And Make Nak Su's memories her own. If she rejects Nak Su's memories, she will not be able to control Nak Su's energies. She needs Nak Su's energy so the body can continually fight the petrification. She needs to accept that the body was Bu Yeon's soul, so she can control the divine energy and stop it from rejecting Nak Su's soul.
I hope I'm making sense. LOL.
* Bu Yeon is blind by birth because her divine/priestess power is about seeing energies. She has to be blind to see the energy around her.
* Nak Su, Part 1 Episode 1, was caught in a desperate situation, she used the soul the ejector to cast the alchemy of soul spell
* However, before that, she bumped into the blind Bu Yeon. Bu Yeon saw her of course (her tremendous energy).
* Since Bu Yeon has a natural affinity to the Ice Stone (as well as her Divine Power), when Nak Su used the soul ejector, Bu Yeon easily overriden the spell.
Instead of Nak Su's soul going into her victim's body, Bu Yeon absorbed Nak Su's soul.
* In the entire Part 1, Bu Yeon used Nak Su so the body can see and move naturally.
* Bu Yeon used Nak Su's soul so they can retrieve the Ice Stone Jin Mu and the queen stole.
* At the same time, she trained and shaped Nak Su, because Bu Yeon knew there's no turning back. Eventually, only one of them can live in the body.
* Bu Yeon also knew she is on borrowed time. Somehow, she probably figured out she already died, and the Ice Stone was used to bring her soul back into the body inside her mother's womb (which explains her affinity to the Ice Stone).
* Based on the last two episodes of Part 1, Bu Yeon knew she's the one who should leave the body and give it to Nak Su.
Eventually, that's what happened. Bu Yeon sort of sealed herself and let Nak Su take over. But unfortunately, Jin Mu, triggered Nak Su's being a soul shifter. Since Bu Yeon sort of sealed herself, and technically was also weakened (because of her mother), her diving powers weakened. It was Bu Yeon who was preventing Nak Ssu from petrifying. Without her, Nak Su petrified, and jumped to the Lake.
End of Part 1.
Beginning of Part 2.
Jin Mama retrieved the petrified body of Mu Deok.
Master Lee was shocked that the petrified body is alive.
Master Lee explained that the Divine power of Bu Yeon's soul and the tremendous power of Nak Su's soul, are both acting to keep the petrified body alive.
Unfortunately, Master Lee realised there is only one way to save the body.
== Remove Bu Yeon's soul
By removing Bu Yeon's soul, the Divine powers that is naturally in the body will be released. (Bu Yeon's soul sort of sealed it, and also weakened too.)
By letting the Divine powers resurface, the petrification will reverse. The Divine power is more powerful than a soul shifter side-effect (petrification, absorbing energies, etc.)
But since the body will reject the parasite soul (i.e. the soul that doesn't belong to it), Master Lee tied the divine power to Nak Su's tremendous energy (not the soul shifter side-effect energy).
The side-effect of tying the divine power and Nak Su's energy is she becomes a new person. No memories, and no powers at all.
Even her aura is different, It is neither Bu Yeon nor Nak Su.
As far as Master Lee is concerned, if she startss to regain her memories as Nak Su, or the body's natural divine powers re-emerges, the body will start to reject the parasite soul.
If that happens, the soul-shifter side-effect will once again restart, she will petrify once again.
Unfortunately. Without Bu Yeon's souls, once she petrifies again, she will permanently die. Basically, Master Lee hinted that the natural divine power of the body is incomplete without Bu Yeon's soul. Bu Yeon's soul is like the master key to it, as well as, the master controller on how to unleash the abilities of the divine power (for example, in Part 1, Bu Yeon kept a balance of between herself and Nak Su's powers).
So, now, in Part 2, it is totally unknown what will happen if NakYeon recovers her memories and powers. Will the body reject Nak Su's soul and restart the petrification process? Or, will the body and Nak Su's soul accept each other because of the new identity that is NakYeon that was built?
I'm thinking the latter will happen. The new identity and aura/energy that is NakYeon, will assert itself over the desire of the body to reject Nak Su's soul. At the same time, the NakYeon identity will assert itself over Nak Su's powers and past.
Basically, the new identity and aura that is NakYeon, will fight for her new existence and keep control of the body's divine powers (like Bu Yeon's soul did in Part 1); and keep Nak Su's power intact but without her past sins.
The new NakYeon identity will probably achieve something similar to Part 1, a balance between Bu Yeon and Nak Su's souls. But this time, it's the new identity that will keep the opposing powers intact.
Something liek that.
I'm guessing, his previous self was not hired to work for the Soonyang clan. Instead, he ended up as a hired killer, or at least, the person hired to set things up (and someone does the killing).
His previous self also grew up differently. I mean, he didn't even realize his look-alike was the one who kept doing things, so his father can get money. His look-alike saved Soonyang Motors; and then later ensured they'll be given another chance with their debt and loans.
Something changed with his previous self that he ended up being the guy who set things up for Mr. 4-2 to die.
I wonder if in Episode 16, they will finally focus on his previous self and show us where the change occurred?
My suspicion is, when Mr. 4-2 bought his mother's eatery business. Then her mother committed suicide. Mr. Previous self probably assumed that was the reason his mother killed herself. So, he harboured bad feelings for Mr. 4-2.
In a time travel plot, one trope is showing how a small change can ripple into something very big.
If this is the case, then, everything else up to the first car crash happened exactly as it did previously.
From the car crash onwards, when 4-2 survived, those events are new.
However, none of it matters at all.
Because the small change was where the timeline actually diverged. That small change is his mother's cause of death. Instead of a heart attack, it was suicide.
His previous self just didn't do anything about it yet, he was still a student. When 4-2 survived the first crash, that was also probably things started to change with Mr. Previous Self.
A small change which rippled out and became something very big.
It might have been the fate of his mother to die. But the cause of her death affected Mr. Previous Self differently.
Maybe when 4-2 died at the car crash, it was also the time when Mr. Previous Self started working for Soonyang. But because 4-2 survived this time, things changed dramatically, and worse, he connected 4-2 with her mother's suicide.
(It's easier to explain it with diagrams, lols. But I'm bad with it. :P )
However, as the series, and in particular episode 16, said, it is the cycle of life. Sooner or later, we will all die.
As her father said, it is the duty of the children to see their parents leave the world, and for them to be happy.
So, even if her father doesn't day on that exact date, for that exact incident, he can still die because he is ready to go out of his way to help strangers.
> If you were a single mother with a kid and no one to depend on, would you really go out of your way and put your life in danger to save someone elses life?
Yeah. I've seen people who did that. I seriously doubt you haven't seen people do that in your own country. You don't have policemen? You don't have firefighters? Rescue teams? Disaster teams who risk their lives for others, even if they have a family that relies on them? Or, some other ordinary guy who went into action to save another?
> such idealistic thoughts are hard to digest
It isn't idealistic, it's reality. ^_^ If it is idealistic for you, then it means you do not understand why, for example, firefighters would risk their lives for others? Or, why some random person did?
Again, I seriously doubt there were no news of such heroic acts in your own country.
> what if she didnt take the job and studied and stayed at home itself. Maybe the dad wouldnt have taken that job because she would have been there at home and could have prevented him from taking that job.
As her dad explained, he did not take the job for her studies. He took the job for the day she gets married, when the time comes when she gets her own house.
So, even if she did study and stayed home, her dad would still secretly take that job. And as far as the story goes, that day would still come.
> What if after studying super hard she got a high paying job which would have made the dad not worry too much about her welfare and money.
But you've forgotten that her dad's death date happened during her preparation years. So, even if she later gets a high paying job, as far as the story goes, her father would be long gone by the time she passes her exams. She already failed once, or twice. Her third opportunity is yet to arrived by the time her father died.
> There are way too many paths this could have taken.
Yes, there are. But, as episode 16 summarised the entire series, we will all die one day. Her father will still die no matter what, for whatever reason. If his father did not die that day, he could've died after being stabbed by some random criminal. Or, he could've died after slipping, and he hit his head against the pavement.
That's the whole point of the series, death is a part of the cycle of life. It is unavoidable. It is just a matter of when.
You can forget about “people going out of their way to help strangers”. His father can be someone who doesn't care if the pregnant lady dies that day. Or, his father probably was not on duty that day, or, the pregnant lady did not come at that moment. His father will still die eventually, destiny/fate or not.
^_^
You don't have to watch it immediately, just consider watching it sometime later. Reading reviews will never capture the message of episode 16, and the entire series.
Goodbye My Friend (안녕 My Friend / Annyong My Friend) by JAMIE (제이미), OST Part 4 of the May I Help You (일당백집사)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpTcncTxSDE
Anyway, it wasn't a curse. It's actually a comfort for her.
If you believe in destiny and/or fate, then his father would die on that day, for that very reason. If she wasn't given the spiritual “Stella's touch”, it would've devastated her. But because she was able to spend 3+ hours with her father, she was able to accept her new reality faster.
If you don't believe in destiny and/or fate, instead you believe in free will, the show established it is about helping people. It was not just through her helping the dead for their last request, even the police officer helped people. And the business of the male lead character was also about helping people.
Her father did the same thing, he helped protect a pregnant woman.
Later in the episode, it was further firmly established that the show was about helping people. Going out of our way to help strangers. The fire explosion tragedy. Seven people went out of their way to help others, where the male lead was as a little boy, and the female lead was still in her mother's womb who was working in that building.
It's not a curse.
Yes, it was a cruel. And, even in real life, a person who did good and ended up dead to save another life, is cruel. But as her father said, such is the cycle of life. We live and we die. Death is simply part of life. And thus, we should value the people around us, even those we do not have any blood relations. It is our relationship with others that makes us happy.
Compare that to the police officer, while he is not a psychopath by definition, he ended up distancing himself from any meaningful relationships. Even his relationship with the male lead was not exactly 100%. He intentionally came closer with him because he felt guilty. Yes, he did value the male lead as his older brother, but there's something else behind that relationship he built.
If the police officer had good relationships, he would have fulfilled his mother's wish for him to live a happy life.
It isn't a curse, but yes it was cruel. Life is cruel. Why die?
So, let's live happy by building meaningful and genuine relationships. Not only do we make our own lives happy, but other people's lives too. Once we are at death's door, we can happily say, “I've finished the race of life well”. And the people who will remember us will say, “They lived a happy and fulfilling life.”
^_^
Every scene, the sequence of those scenes, were well-thought of. And them dedicating 40 minutes to it also helped. Perfectly executed.
It was like we were there. We were the character.
And it was a good decision they didn't ask her to cry during those home scenes. The audience was already in her shoes at that point, her crying while remembering her precious memories, would've been a distraction away from it.
Her character was like anyone would be, trying to fight the tears back, and learning to accept the new reality. Being strong because we have to continue living for the people who went ahead of us.
Super duper perfect execution and episode. We can write an entire book with just that one episode.
I mean, I cried in the ending of The Red Sleeve, Uncontrollably Fond, Gu Family Book, they touched our emotions.
But in May I Help You, I cried because it's true-to-life. It spoke to our heart, mind, and soul.
She's hurt deep inside. She reached the point in her life where she just wants to live and get by, without any distraction.
She now sees relationships as a distraction. If it will hurt her, she distances herself immediately. If there is any chance something will not work, she stays away.
She now have a black-and-white view of everyone.
I can relate. In fact, the opening monologue of episode 2 made me realize why the character is "familiar", she's partly me.
Allow me to explain further.
1. I'm undergrad. While I did enter college, the treatment is the same as you never did, or never finished high school… like her character.
If you succeed better than the graduates, you'll feel the pressure. And if there are managers who were hired from outside the company, and they happen to be high and mighty, they'll find ways to make your life miserable because for them, only graduates should have your position and success.
2. Back in late 2020, my then girlfriend of 15 years left me hanging. Just like that, we're over.
Since then, I no longer trust any women. Trust in relationships. I know not all women would do what my ex did (and other stuff she did). But, I am still deeply hurt. I am deeply broken. Deeply damaged. That my trust of women when it comes to relationships is in pieces, too.
Before I saw episode 1, since the break up, I'm always thinking what I would do if I start to see "signs". And my conclusion happens to be similar to what our fictional character did … cut-off immediately.
I haven't finished watching episode 2 at this point. I paused at 06:13. So, the above was only based on what I know so far about her character; and trying to relate to it from my own experiences.
She got the spiritual version of "Stella's touch" because:
1. Her birth was a miracle
2. 21 people because of the explosion tragedy
3. Her mother died because she chose to help a little boy instead of taking care of herself (she's pregnant, she's more vulnerable)
4. Her ability was to grant one final request for the 7 people directly related to the tragedy. The 7 people who went out of their way to help others.
5. Her ability was also meant to solve the death of the male lead's brother.
6. She, or her dad, did not pay any "price". Her dad was simply one of those people who would go out of their way to help other people, putting their own safety and survival aside. Just like how those 7 people did during the tragedy. (Which her mother was one.)
7. This is her, having the chance to also help others…
… and learn the value of life and relationships. Which led to the male lead character to also go back to his profession of saving lives.
And, like her father said, it's the cycle of life.
Now, if you believe in destiny or fate, and not of free will, well, her ability allowed her to have one final moment with her dad. Because if destiny or fate is real, then her dad would have died that day no matter what. If she didn't have the ability, she probably would take years to move on and have a positive outlook in life, it would devastate her.
^_^
That exactly is the point, it's a drama. His death was a plot device. And well, it was kind of hinted already in the first few episodes.
Besides, even in real life, there are things that don't make any sense at all, but it still happened.
1. It was a huge pot. By the looks of it, it wasn't your cheap and light pot.
2 It was like 10 to 15 floors high. Which means gravity would increase the speed and impact.
3. The way the father shielded the pregnant lady was his back was arch, thus his backbone was more exposed.
4. We can also assume the pot fell on his head.
5. He's 50+ years old. And the way his daughter wants him to stop working (was even angry at him when she discovered he's working), would mean his eyes failing was not the only ailment he had. We can safely assume he was definitely not in good shape.
To sum it all up, yeah, he will certainly die from.
In fact, just #1 and #2 can kill you already, especially if it's #4, fell on your head (which again they did not show).
^_^
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