Fair warning: this is very long. I compiled the Q&A in the previous thread, updated what needs updating, I re-watched all 10 episodes and jotted down notes (and dialogues), and kept on re-analysing the whole series.
I had to rewrite the entire article 4 times because just when I was ready to publish it, EUREKA! There is a better explanation.
Things that changed since my last reply in the comments below: 1. Sae Ha survived. This is 100% solid!
2. Corrected the birth date of the Ghost. She did not come from 2091, she was born in 2091. This have important implications: (a) Byeori is more likely not her mother but her grandmother; and (b) her 13% DNA match with Ma Nok makes even more sense (backed by real science) … he is the Ghost's great grand uncle on her paternal side. Yes, you read that right.
3. There are two Blue Time Travelers (although 1 actor)
4. The question "if there is no Grid then the Founder/Ghost would not exist so there is no one to install the Grid" dilemma is also answered. There are 7 versions of May 18, 1997.
5. The Ghost did appear at the same time in 6 laboratories around the world, she visited one after another. However, it does not mean it is not possible … when she showed up in IRR (7th laboratory she visited), she overlapped her appearance in 3 other laboratories.
And many, many more!
I hope it's all worth it. ^_^
Enjoy reading!
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WOW! I love episode 10. Leave all your questions here, I will answer them!
Don't worry the show is both complex and complicated. (You usually see this type of stories in novels, personally, this is the first time I saw this level of complexity in a live-action show.)
Update: I am also preparing an "explained" article to explain the temporal rules and other complex questions/answers. I just need to gather my thoughts first (I recently marathon "Crazy Love" from ep 1 to 14, my thoughts are everywhere currently.)
Just leave your questions on this thread and I'll answer them as short as possible. I'll just leave a note to wait for my "explained" article if the explanation requires more detail.
What bugs me that how did Segi arrive at the accident scene of NGJ ?I mean as far as we know he didn't know about…
It was because someone is pulling the strings. Someone with all the knowledge of everyone can nudge them to do things you want them to do.
All of them (except the FL) showing up on that night was not coincidence, they were nudged, guided, manipulated, to be there. What is a coincidence is how they showed up one after another. How only one person (the other secretary) saw the FL arriving.
The second ML, the bodyguard/gambling-loanshark, probably witnessed the hit-and-run but had no idea the FL was there, or there was another former secretary who destroyed the CCTVs.
It was actually brilliant. Use everyone, manipulate them, turn them against your target. You have a countdown, if they all fail to kill your target, then on Day 0, you'll do what no one else can.
What I like with this show is they're not dragging the stories. It's simple and relatable. A story about falling in love doesn't have to take half the episodes of the series because in between that is, realistically speaking, usually flirting and kilig moments. It is what comes after a couple starts dating that deserves a detailed storytelling--the ups and downs, the lovers quarrels, and family issues.
Thank you very much for Episode 6. Our grandfather never received the respect and honour he deserves as a WW2 veteran, he and many other veterans like him, were denied the benefits, financial support, respect, and honour when they continued on with their lives.
Institutions, politicians, and governments, only paid lip service and delayed the bills that could have given them proper support. Yes, the bills eventually became laws but only after most of the veterans already passed away. They wouldn't even give posthumous awards, promotions, and/or recognition.
Thank you very much for Episode 6. It may be dedicated for the Korean War veterans, but it resonates very powerfully with all war veterans in all countries, if not for them, majority of us wouldn't be enjoying the life we have today.
Can someone give me a brief description better than the free translation version above?
At this point, it is still not clear.
I'm struggling with it myself.
The fan translation of the "official" description hints that there is some amazing, grande, family secret that the main male lead will eventually discover while searching for his mother. It kind of is telling us that this secret is some secret society for elites that the main ML have to "infiltrate" or something if he ever will have a chance of finding his mother.
But, after the first 5 episodes, there is nothing about that. Maybe in the 2nd week we'll start to see clues about it.
ML: It was me. I never imagined back then that I'd do such a thing.ML: can not move beyond my origin pointNow…
Based on the CCTV captured: 1. When the future ML was sent back in time by the Ghost, he 'replaced' the ML standing on the corridor.
One frame the original ML was standing, the next, it was the future ML lying on the floor.
It can only mean one thing: replaced.
2. If we go by "replace", it would explain why the ML doesn't remember anything: 2a: when he visited the "no grid reality", he doesn't know a single thing about that world even though there is a version of him there. 2b: The "no grid reality" version of the ML was nowhere to be seen after he showed up. 2c: When he talked to his younger self, he never had any new memories about that encounter. 2d: When he returned to 2021, he doesn't have any memories of the changes he made. He was very cautious in visiting their old home. If he did not replace the ML that lived in that new reality, he should've memories that his mother is well.
3. Re: The Ghost. The "replace" theory is limited. For example, the Ghost was able to appear at various lab locations around the world in May 1997. She was caught by CCTVs. This never changed.
It would appear that, as long as the time traveler is beyond the range of their other self (again age difference matters [ie an adult will not replace their kid version]), they can be in the exact same time as their previous selves.
-- There is another way to explain this May 1997 CCTV of the Ghost in various labs at exactly the same time around the world.
Nope. He did die. ;)
Since he has become a time traveler too, and "time doesn't flow", he now have multiple versions of himself.
Was Disney+ Grid challenging? After almost a week, the much-awaited "Grid Explained" is finally up! https://im.youronly.one/snoworld/그리드-grid-explained-2022116/
Fair warning: this is very long. I compiled the Q&A in the previous thread, updated what needs updating, I re-watched all 10 episodes and jotted down notes (and dialogues), and kept on re-analysing the whole series.
I had to rewrite the entire article 4 times because just when I was ready to publish it, EUREKA! There is a better explanation.
Things that changed since my last reply in the comments below:
1. Sae Ha survived. This is 100% solid!
2. Corrected the birth date of the Ghost. She did not come from 2091, she was born in 2091. This have important implications: (a) Byeori is more likely not her mother but her grandmother; and (b) her 13% DNA match with Ma Nok makes even more sense (backed by real science) … he is the Ghost's great grand uncle on her paternal side. Yes, you read that right.
3. There are two Blue Time Travelers (although 1 actor)
4. The question "if there is no Grid then the Founder/Ghost would not exist so there is no one to install the Grid" dilemma is also answered. There are 7 versions of May 18, 1997.
5. The Ghost did appear at the same time in 6 laboratories around the world, she visited one after another. However, it does not mean it is not possible … when she showed up in IRR (7th laboratory she visited), she overlapped her appearance in 3 other laboratories.
And many, many more!
I hope it's all worth it. ^_^
Enjoy reading!
------------------------------
WOW! I love episode 10. Leave all your questions here, I will answer them!
Don't worry the show is both complex and complicated. (You usually see this type of stories in novels, personally, this is the first time I saw this level of complexity in a live-action show.)
Update: I am also preparing an "explained" article to explain the temporal rules and other complex questions/answers. I just need to gather my thoughts first (I recently marathon "Crazy Love" from ep 1 to 14, my thoughts are everywhere currently.)
Just leave your questions on this thread and I'll answer them as short as possible. I'll just leave a note to wait for my "explained" article if the explanation requires more detail.
I love how they smoothly meshed romcom and mystery crime together.
All of them (except the FL) showing up on that night was not coincidence, they were nudged, guided, manipulated, to be there. What is a coincidence is how they showed up one after another. How only one person (the other secretary) saw the FL arriving.
The second ML, the bodyguard/gambling-loanshark, probably witnessed the hit-and-run but had no idea the FL was there, or there was another former secretary who destroyed the CCTVs.
It was actually brilliant. Use everyone, manipulate them, turn them against your target. You have a countdown, if they all fail to kill your target, then on Day 0, you'll do what no one else can.
Also, their grandfather is still looking for his biological child. They'll probably reveal that much later too.
Institutions, politicians, and governments, only paid lip service and delayed the bills that could have given them proper support. Yes, the bills eventually became laws but only after most of the veterans already passed away. They wouldn't even give posthumous awards, promotions, and/or recognition.
Thank you very much for Episode 6. It may be dedicated for the Korean War veterans, but it resonates very powerfully with all war veterans in all countries, if not for them, majority of us wouldn't be enjoying the life we have today.
/bow
/salute
Both are daily 30 to 35 min #Kdrama with 120 episodes. The first 5 episodes have a lot of similarities, it gets confusing. =))
Stiff #MBC #KBS competition #TV
Both are daily 30 to 35 min #Kdrama with 120 episodes. The first 5 episodes have a lot of similarities, it gets confusing. =))
Stiff #MBC #KBS competition #TV
I'm struggling with it myself.
The fan translation of the "official" description hints that there is some amazing, grande, family secret that the main male lead will eventually discover while searching for his mother. It kind of is telling us that this secret is some secret society for elites that the main ML have to "infiltrate" or something if he ever will have a chance of finding his mother.
But, after the first 5 episodes, there is nothing about that. Maybe in the 2nd week we'll start to see clues about it.
"The Secret House": older brother adopted his niece as his own.
What in the world. LOLs.
There are other similarities between the two shows. Did the writers originally plan one show but had a fall out? Hahahaha.
"The Secret House": older brother adopted his niece as his own.
What in the world. LOLs.
There are other similarities between the two shows. Did the writers originally plan one show but had a fall out? Hahahaha.
1. When the future ML was sent back in time by the Ghost, he 'replaced' the ML standing on the corridor.
One frame the original ML was standing, the next, it was the future ML lying on the floor.
It can only mean one thing: replaced.
2. If we go by "replace", it would explain why the ML doesn't remember anything:
2a: when he visited the "no grid reality", he doesn't know a single thing about that world even though there is a version of him there.
2b: The "no grid reality" version of the ML was nowhere to be seen after he showed up.
2c: When he talked to his younger self, he never had any new memories about that encounter.
2d: When he returned to 2021, he doesn't have any memories of the changes he made. He was very cautious in visiting their old home. If he did not replace the ML that lived in that new reality, he should've memories that his mother is well.
3. Re: The Ghost. The "replace" theory is limited. For example, the Ghost was able to appear at various lab locations around the world in May 1997. She was caught by CCTVs. This never changed.
It would appear that, as long as the time traveler is beyond the range of their other self (again age difference matters [ie an adult will not replace their kid version]), they can be in the exact same time as their previous selves.
-- There is another way to explain this May 1997 CCTV of the Ghost in various labs at exactly the same time around the world.