Well I'm not sure what you're expecting but what I think you're calling a "cliche" is about to happen...Ae is…
[Why It Is Considered A Cliché] Any person who avidly watches shows with LGBT themes knows the commonly used plot of a religiously straight male somehow falling in love with another male, and rather than beginning to identify as bisexual or homosexual, claims to still be straight, with whoever they're in love with being an exception. I can list many shows where this is the case because it is overused — a cliché if you will. Maybe you have not come across it a lot but op (Liz) certainly has. That is why she made a comment about it.
[A Correction to Make] I think you also misunderstood my comment. I was saying that someone's sexuality cannot and will not ever change. Sexuality is not fluid — it is something you are born with. To say otherwise promotes conversion therapy or the idea that children can turn gay if homosexuality is presented to them. Yes, people may discover parts of their sexuality later in life, however, that is not what happens in these clichés. Rather than discovering they were actually gay/bi/pan/etc all this time, these awful plots claim the main characters "turned" gay. As if it were possible for such a thing to happen! It's only propaganda disguised as a love story.
[Clichés Aren't Bad] I would like to be clear. Just because something is a cliché, it doesn't mean it shouldn't ever be done or that it's bad for the plot. Clichés are fine as long as they are executed properly. Many people love clichés! But just as many grow tired of them and want something different.
[The Pros of Not Using This Cliché] No one is saying it is bad for people to consider themselves straight despite their actions suggesting otherwise. However, it is seen a lot in dramas. So when things are changed up, it pleases and possibly excites many people. It also brings the opportunity for some good, non-comical representation for guys who are openly gay. We can see their struggles (ie, Pete being bullied for being gay), their love (ie, his falling in love with Ae), their humaneness (ie, a life others can relate to), etc. This can't be seen with the cliché because in that case, it is the story of a straight person who met an exception to their heterosexuality.
[Too Long, Didn't Read] It is used often and is therefore a cliché, however, that doesn't make it bad. People simply wish to see something different from time to time.
I only watched parts of episodes 8 and 12. Episode 12 was really beautiful and touching — a great finale for the three series. I loved seeing the montage of how all the couples came to be. And the scene where everyone was looking for the ring made me smile.
Well I'm not sure what you're expecting but what I think you're calling a "cliche" is about to happen...Ae is…
A character "turning gay" only for one person IS a cliché (it's an acute accent, not a grave accent). A cliché is something that is overused. It doesn't matter how realistic a cliché is to real life. If it is overused in a media form (eg. tv shows), it is a cliché. However, people "turning gay" does NOT happen in real life. Sexuality is part of who you are — how you're born. Someone can change how they identify themselves, and that may be what you're thinking of, but their sexuality doesn't really change. For example, I could refer to myself as straight because that's what I've been comfortable using. Deep down, I actually find both sexes attractive and can see myself with either, however, I continue identifying as straight. If one day I found a guy I liked, I may start to think that I turned gay since I never liked men before. But that isn't true. I was always capable of liking both men and women. I just hadn't come across a guy I liked yet. It's the same thing with lesbians who start identifying as straight. Their sexuality didn't actually change. They simply discovered something about themselves later in life. If you're wondering why I'm taking this so seriously, it is because the idea that sexuality can change is extremely dangerous for LGBTQ+ people. Ever heard of conversion therapy? It was used on gay and bi youths because people thought they could be turned straight. Some people would get drugged and forced to watch same-sex erotica, getting electrical shocks (and/or forced to vomit) if they reacted to it. And sadly, this is still legal in many countries. Parents force their children to go, hoping they will become straight, when in actuality, sexuality does not change.
Pretty big spoiler: They are only together in season one. They still have a side plot in season two but it's sad (trying to remain friends while getting over the breakup). And I think season three has an almost completely different cast so they aren't in it at all.
The last S in SOTUS S actually has a meaning that is explained by the author at the end of the series. She said…
I guess, but that seems like more of a joke to me. Sotus and Sotus S were both titles of the novels and for the show to start doing something similar with letters seems like mocking the novel titles.
So this is SOTUS S...Are they going to make SOTUS O,SOTUS T, SOTUS U AND again SOTUS 2S.
The last S in SOTUS S actually has a meaning that is explained by the author at the end of the series. She said it could mean either secret, soulmate, support, or share.
The names I added are the only ones I could read. If anyone is better at reading Thai and would like to add the rest of the cast, look through the show's official FB page (which I will link in the bottom). Also, this show seems to have some BL elements to it, however, that's just what I was able to gather from the teasers and trailers.
Season 2 has been confirmed and should air some time in 2018.
Just want to say that season 2 was confirmed more than a year ago and I've heard no news of it since. I don't know if it's still happening. However, the movie is also supposed to get a sequel in 2018. The sequel was confirmed much later (September) and already has a teaser video posted by one of the actors so I think this one is more likely to happen.
I haven't liked Oat ever since he made that colorist comment about Pop's skin tone. Unlikeable character to the…
There is no blackface in this show nor did I mention it so I don't see why you're bringing it up. Anyways, I am not the one normalizing it. If you read my comment, you'll see I refer to it as "a fault," "sad," and "outrageous." In no way do I think colourism should be normalized. It is something I advocate passionately against because it has affected me personally. However, I'm not going to take it out on the people who worked on this show because they are the victims here. They are the ones who had Eurocentric beauty standards forced upon them. They are the ones who are brainwashed into thinking they have to be white to be beautiful. Instead, I will speak out against those who have created the stigma around dark skin and not those who were dragged along.
For those who are wondering, it can be considered a sad or happy ending. It depends on the way you look at it. This is where spoilers come in so beware. The two main characters do not stay together and that is why you may consider it a sad ending. However, Huang Lin found himself a new boyfriend who wasn't afraid to come out of the closet. In this case, it could be considered a happy ending for him.
I haven't liked Oat ever since he made that colorist comment about Pop's skin tone. Unlikeable character to the…
That's not a fault of the character or the writing. That's a fault of the culture. Colourism is prevalent in many parts of Asia, especially in the media. Mothers bleach their children's skin, skin whitening creams/treatments are sold and promoted, dark skin people are insulted, etc. In Asia, white skin equates beauty while dark skin is seen as ugly and dirty. "Black" or "dark" is used as an insult but telling someone their skin is white will be taken as a compliment. An example of this is the Thai song "Charming Person." In the song, the singer likes someone and is insulting them to get their attention. One of the insults used, when translated, says "You're as black as a 2B pencil." This isn't bad writing. It's very sad but colourism has been normalized in Asia. Oat making that comment may seem outrageous to you and me, however, that is a very normal thing to joke about with friends in countries like Thailand, India, Philippines, China, etc.
Any person who avidly watches shows with LGBT themes knows the commonly used plot of a religiously straight male somehow falling in love with another male, and rather than beginning to identify as bisexual or homosexual, claims to still be straight, with whoever they're in love with being an exception. I can list many shows where this is the case because it is overused — a cliché if you will. Maybe you have not come across it a lot but op (Liz) certainly has. That is why she made a comment about it.
[A Correction to Make]
I think you also misunderstood my comment. I was saying that someone's sexuality cannot and will not ever change. Sexuality is not fluid — it is something you are born with. To say otherwise promotes conversion therapy or the idea that children can turn gay if homosexuality is presented to them. Yes, people may discover parts of their sexuality later in life, however, that is not what happens in these clichés. Rather than discovering they were actually gay/bi/pan/etc all this time, these awful plots claim the main characters "turned" gay. As if it were possible for such a thing to happen! It's only propaganda disguised as a love story.
[Clichés Aren't Bad]
I would like to be clear. Just because something is a cliché, it doesn't mean it shouldn't ever be done or that it's bad for the plot. Clichés are fine as long as they are executed properly. Many people love clichés! But just as many grow tired of them and want something different.
[The Pros of Not Using This Cliché]
No one is saying it is bad for people to consider themselves straight despite their actions suggesting otherwise. However, it is seen a lot in dramas. So when things are changed up, it pleases and possibly excites many people. It also brings the opportunity for some good, non-comical representation for guys who are openly gay. We can see their struggles (ie, Pete being bullied for being gay), their love (ie, his falling in love with Ae), their humaneness (ie, a life others can relate to), etc. This can't be seen with the cliché because in that case, it is the story of a straight person who met an exception to their heterosexuality.
[Too Long, Didn't Read]
It is used often and is therefore a cliché, however, that doesn't make it bad. People simply wish to see something different from time to time.
However, people "turning gay" does NOT happen in real life. Sexuality is part of who you are — how you're born. Someone can change how they identify themselves, and that may be what you're thinking of, but their sexuality doesn't really change. For example, I could refer to myself as straight because that's what I've been comfortable using. Deep down, I actually find both sexes attractive and can see myself with either, however, I continue identifying as straight. If one day I found a guy I liked, I may start to think that I turned gay since I never liked men before. But that isn't true. I was always capable of liking both men and women. I just hadn't come across a guy I liked yet. It's the same thing with lesbians who start identifying as straight. Their sexuality didn't actually change. They simply discovered something about themselves later in life.
If you're wondering why I'm taking this so seriously, it is because the idea that sexuality can change is extremely dangerous for LGBTQ+ people. Ever heard of conversion therapy? It was used on gay and bi youths because people thought they could be turned straight. Some people would get drugged and forced to watch same-sex erotica, getting electrical shocks (and/or forced to vomit) if they reacted to it. And sadly, this is still legal in many countries. Parents force their children to go, hoping they will become straight, when in actuality, sexuality does not change.
The link: https://www.facebook.com/BehindTheSinTheSeries/
The two main characters do not stay together and that is why you may consider it a sad ending. However, Huang Lin found himself a new boyfriend who wasn't afraid to come out of the closet. In this case, it could be considered a happy ending for him.
In Asia, white skin equates beauty while dark skin is seen as ugly and dirty. "Black" or "dark" is used as an insult but telling someone their skin is white will be taken as a compliment. An example of this is the Thai song "Charming Person." In the song, the singer likes someone and is insulting them to get their attention. One of the insults used, when translated, says "You're as black as a 2B pencil."
This isn't bad writing. It's very sad but colourism has been normalized in Asia. Oat making that comment may seem outrageous to you and me, however, that is a very normal thing to joke about with friends in countries like Thailand, India, Philippines, China, etc.