China too... I mean word of honor , untamed, immortality and countless other BLs coming out this year and next…
Just letting you know your not alone in feeling this way. As one person commented, I'm an old gay man, too. Unlike that person, I don't really have any interest in supporting series where the romantic leads from novels have been neutered by the CCP. I don't want to lend my tacit approval to it. That's just me...
People are more upser by Dr. Nam's unethical attitudes than by Tian's. Tian is involved in murderer issues, but…
I don't think that's necessarily true of everyone. I spoke on this specific matter, here, in particular because I have professional knowledge of it and rules about it have no room for leeway. I touched on Tian in your post related to him.
OK, I'll admit it, that sort of worked for me. I've been really unhappy with this show, and that was still a bit…
I think it just goes to show the subjective nature of our appreciations or criticisms, ultimately, because we've had discussions about plot-driven contrivances before. In this instance, what gave you a degree of credibility was, for me, a flimsy stick trying to hold up some plot-driven f@ck3ry of the highest-order, in the first place. :D
I think people's morals are distorted. Tian is not innocent like many people are saying. He is partially responsible…
I agree that Tian owns some of the response he received because of the way he said that he was responsible for her death. This would have been such an emotionally charged revelation for everyone that their concern won't be sbout semantics. It's entirely believable, for me as a retired psych nurse, for them hear that as "I killed her."
It's also believable that shock (actual shock, that would pretty much bypass the higher order functions of their brains and light up the more instinctual aspects) would not have them asking a question like "what do you mean." They were in a situation where they felt a keen sense of betrayal and Tian could be very quickly assessed as a threat to them by their more base instinctive functions.
In the real world, this situation could spiral out of control into an instance where a mob mentality could take over and could put Tian in physical danger. Once he said what he said, in the way he said it, trying to expand on it or modify it could well have inflated their shock into violent anger. He could have ended up attacked by the crowd.
I know that some scoff at that notion, but given the setting of an isolated and intimate community and the fact that Tian went about it in all but the worst way possible with that phrase, my years of study and practice tell me that it could have gotten very ugly, very quickly.
I think that it was only the second night from Tian's confession to the shooting at Ghost Hill. While it's not praise-worthy, the response of the villagers is not, unfortunately unrealistic. They were in a place where they didn't want to hear another word Tian wanted to say because of the close-knit nature of the community. Tian didn't just "kill" Torfun, he betrayed them all in a profound way given their high levels of interconnection.
Personally, I feel that there is a difference between Tian giving the keys to Prem to go race his car and Tian driving the car and running down Torfun, himself. I don't know if he could be charged as an accessory, under Thai law. Wher I live, I don't think that Tian could be successfully prosecuted of a crime. (That doesn't speak to my thoughts that he has a moral connection to what happened.)The show kind of rendered that moot, anyway, because they said that hush-money had been offered and received by Prem (or maybe Tian's parents.) I don't personally approve of that in any manner, shape, or form but it does moot the point within the literary context.
Indeed, you're not alone in your feelings about the episode. I spent some time yesterday going into saying why I didn't feel disappointed but we all have the right to our opinions.
This is the best series of the year for me. I really like Tian's character. In real life this would never happen,…
I've known of real-life instances where people have made radical changes in the way they look at the world and their behaviours in very short timeframes; particularly in the areas of addiction and recovery, but I agree that it's not a common thing to occur.
This series now holds my Number 1 ranking of BLs for being a heartfelt and tender fairytale romance directly for the LGBTQ+ community. That's not to say that it's not solely for LGBTQ+ people, but we've never had anything like a classic Disney Romance (and some of them have been damned fine works!) where "we" and "our" lives were at front-and-centre stage. I'm enormously grateful for it...
This episode was so extra for me. unnecessary drama. I hate to sound like a hater because I really like this series…
I hope that people's emotions have settled down enough that folk in here don't resort to personal attacks about differing opinions. This episode was really charged for many and feelings were running particularly high, yesterday. Debating opinions is one thing but it would be inappropriate, IMO, to be labelled a 'hater' for having your opinion...
Ok I loved this episode but I just want to ask... . Anyone else upset at Dr. Nam for breaching Doctor / patient…
As a retired nurse, I was very bothered by the way they approached this. They took a very casual attitude toward some the real conceptual pillars of health care and practice. Hopefully, no one comes away with the impression that their confidentiality could be violated in the real world, the way it was, here. I hope that people know that a real world practitioner found in conflict-of-interest and violation of confidentiality to this degree would A) Be dismissed from employment B) most likely stripped of the ability to practice and C) wide-open to litigation.
It is the one criticism I have of the series, to date. It was bad writing. Period.
So I just watched Ep 8, and I happened to notice that in 23;hours, the Ep has already had a half million views.…
I don't know what kind of viewership numbers a Thai series like this needs to be considered a hit, but I hope that this show is meeting and beating them. It could spur the media companies to look for projects that push beyond the standard YAOI settings and structures to ones that are more well-rounded in nature; whether romantic, comedic, or dramatic. I truly feel that some of the tropes of the genre are better left behind in this day and age.
What i didn't like inthe eps Phupha entereing tian 's house like a robber. Because even a cop has no right to…
I hope it will change for you. I also hope that you'll be able to watch the last episode with your concerns set aside, to a degree. The Self-Fulfilling Prophecy is a real psychological phenomena through which we can subconsciously filter incoming things to confirm our suspicions/concerns... that is: we'll see what we want to see to prove ourselves right...
Anyone else kinda wished they aired more light in the scenes that were dark. Literally couldn’t see them clearly…
I was better able to see it on rewatch when it was night and I had all the lights off at home. For me, where I live, the original broadcast comes at 7:30 in the morning...
I just wanted to echo your sentiments, here, jarabaa. I'm an older man myself and I've found it so heartening that younger people, today, have the opportunity to see series speak directly to them in a way that is validating, affirming, and directly relatable.
At 53, I'm part of a cohort that is unique: I'm a survivor of the original AIDS pandemic that took so many contemporaries and mentors from our community. I think that many of us were scarred to one degree or another by the scale of the deaths and by the original indifference of the larger world when it seemed that the virus was only decimating the gay community.
I'm also at the tail-end of a group that is into and approaching our senior years for the first time in history as openly out and proud LGBTQ+ people. Many of us were involved in combating the indifference and second-class citizenship we had experienced in our lives, not just for ourselves and contemporaries but for the generations that would follow. We wanted a better world for ourselves and for them, as well. Most of us have not directly had children, but I think that many of us feel a bond of kinship to the succeeding generations. They are like or extended nephews and nieces, if you will...
It truly warms my heart to see someone like you, Jason, have so many more opportunities for direct support and affirmation at a younger age. It says to people like me that the time we spent in directly confronting hated and intolerance, at our own personal risk often, was worthwhile.
Of course, it is incomplete. I both rage and despair when I hear of the rejections, torments, tortures, and murders that still go on around the world, today. We must all remember those who still live that oppression and continue to advocate and act as agents of change for them, but I am still so happy that so many more than before have been able to come into the world and live freer of that than before...
The 5 year gap simply fails because of a lack of a compelling rationale. It's not about dreamland. It's about…
That's an entirely sensible approach for real people and their lives but GSD and SY are written characters and it's an example of flimsy writing, at best. I'd have flunked a third of my high school English classes if I'd submitted stories with plot holes that big...
It's also believable that shock (actual shock, that would pretty much bypass the higher order functions of their brains and light up the more instinctual aspects) would not have them asking a question like "what do you mean." They were in a situation where they felt a keen sense of betrayal and Tian could be very quickly assessed as a threat to them by their more base instinctive functions.
In the real world, this situation could spiral out of control into an instance where a mob mentality could take over and could put Tian in physical danger. Once he said what he said, in the way he said it, trying to expand on it or modify it could well have inflated their shock into violent anger. He could have ended up attacked by the crowd.
I know that some scoff at that notion, but given the setting of an isolated and intimate community and the fact that Tian went about it in all but the worst way possible with that phrase, my years of study and practice tell me that it could have gotten very ugly, very quickly.
I think that it was only the second night from Tian's confession to the shooting at Ghost Hill. While it's not praise-worthy, the response of the villagers is not, unfortunately unrealistic. They were in a place where they didn't want to hear another word Tian wanted to say because of the close-knit nature of the community. Tian didn't just "kill" Torfun, he betrayed them all in a profound way given their high levels of interconnection.
Personally, I feel that there is a difference between Tian giving the keys to Prem to go race his car and Tian driving the car and running down Torfun, himself. I don't know if he could be charged as an accessory, under Thai law. Wher I live, I don't think that Tian could be successfully prosecuted of a crime. (That doesn't speak to my thoughts that he has a moral connection to what happened.)The show kind of rendered that moot, anyway, because they said that hush-money had been offered and received by Prem (or maybe Tian's parents.) I don't personally approve of that in any manner, shape, or form but it does moot the point within the literary context.
Indeed, you're not alone in your feelings about the episode. I spent some time yesterday going into saying why I didn't feel disappointed but we all have the right to our opinions.
This series now holds my Number 1 ranking of BLs for being a heartfelt and tender fairytale romance directly for the LGBTQ+ community. That's not to say that it's not solely for LGBTQ+ people, but we've never had anything like a classic Disney Romance (and some of them have been damned fine works!) where "we" and "our" lives were at front-and-centre stage. I'm enormously grateful for it...
It is the one criticism I have of the series, to date. It was bad writing. Period.
At 53, I'm part of a cohort that is unique: I'm a survivor of the original AIDS pandemic that took so many contemporaries and mentors from our community. I think that many of us were scarred to one degree or another by the scale of the deaths and by the original indifference of the larger world when it seemed that the virus was only decimating the gay community.
I'm also at the tail-end of a group that is into and approaching our senior years for the first time in history as openly out and proud LGBTQ+ people. Many of us were involved in combating the indifference and second-class citizenship we had experienced in our lives, not just for ourselves and contemporaries but for the generations that would follow. We wanted a better world for ourselves and for them, as well. Most of us have not directly had children, but I think that many of us feel a bond of kinship to the succeeding generations. They are like or extended nephews and nieces, if you will...
It truly warms my heart to see someone like you, Jason, have so many more opportunities for direct support and affirmation at a younger age. It says to people like me that the time we spent in directly confronting hated and intolerance, at our own personal risk often, was worthwhile.
Of course, it is incomplete. I both rage and despair when I hear of the rejections, torments, tortures, and murders that still go on around the world, today. We must all remember those who still live that oppression and continue to advocate and act as agents of change for them, but I am still so happy that so many more than before have been able to come into the world and live freer of that than before...