"An indie film depicting the sad, toxic love story of a manipulative, sexist insecure young man and a mentally…
lol Lame.
I wrote my reply to you in five minutes. I've thoroughly enjoyed the other 1,435 minutes of my Sunday.
It doesn't matter to me how you react to the labels I put on you, they seem to fit quite well. I selected them in response to what YOU wrote; I didn't pull them out of my ass. If you choose to feel "belittled," well that is your choice.
Also, I had no idea this terrible actress was in this film when it started. I've seen one other of hers, and the problem was the same: everything about the movie was great except for her. But going forward, I will definitely avoid anything else she's in. Or do you think it necessary to "meet" actors too, before judging their work?
I haven’t started it yet but ig don’t judge any series by just short 7 mins, even i gave venus in the sky…
I've never dropped one this quickly before either. But I saw and heard enough to know I'm not on board with the premise, which is the center of the plot and isn't going to change. So I'm out.
Omg I get it, shows being mediocre but think they can get away with it simply for being bl 😵💫
EXACTLY. That's why Thailand pumps out BLs by the dozen, with little care for quality. They know the little girls will eat up whatever they dish out, if it's a BL. They don't respect the genre they're producing.
we get that ur a hater. its okay you just need taste THAT U CLEARLY DONT HAVE
You're not being rude at all. "babe," lol
I've watched just about every BL in existence (except those out of Thailand in the last year, which I don't waste time even trying anymore.) So, I'm pretty good at judging from the start of a show, whether or not I'm going to like it. I don't care for BLs with supernatural or science fiction premises; it just doesn't work for me; comes off as dorky. And it's my understanding from reading about this show that the character seeing the AI images/messages in front of his eyes is going to continue doing so throughout. Just...no.
I get into dramas that take place in the real world, with stories and characters that spring from real-world human emotions/actions/etc. Gimmicks like "oh, I'm inside a virtual game now!) don't work for me.
I speak only for myself. Those of you who love this sort of thing, please, enjoy! But I won't be among your number.
Dropped about 15 minutes in. Story's lame, acting's terrible, direction awful, everyone seems like amateurs. All the bare flesh isn't enough reason to stick around. I don't find these guys all that hot anyway.
Seven minutes into the first episode...dropping. I can't stand this kind of juvenile, Saturday-morning-cartoon-vibe, Thai-style junk. I hate to see this sort of thing coming out of Korea now. Thailand makes 17 of these every week.
Dropped. And anything that can make me drop it in under eight minutes gets the death penalty: 1/10
well even if he realized he is not obligated to help he haven't done anything wrong in that waylike even if she…
Wow. So this young woman is not responsible for her decisions and choices and their consequences? It's all HIS fault? And he has to react as her therapist to finding out she's been lying constantly, cheating on him with her ex in his bed, and prostituting herself?
Do you believe a woman is EVER responsible for her choices? It's hilarious you're blaming HIM for her flirting with and fucking her ex. Christ.
I thought about dividing my comment into two parts, with a second part in spoilers but I changed my mind and I'm…
I totally took her to be mentally ill, especially in that ultimate confrontation scene in which she accused the ML of things he would KNOW he didn't do, such as sleep with some woman the night before or something. Yeah, she's nuts.
The sequel could be her time in the psych ward, but with a different actress, please.
Oh man, where do I even begin..This film broke my heart. It felt like I was watching a person's soul being ripped…
You are nuts. It COULD have been a good movie, but Ishikawa destroyed it. She played the exact same, unsympathetic character she played in the other film I saw her in. She's terrible, and totally not believable as somebody the ML would fall in love with.
So are you saying the real-world consequences of her cheating and psychopath-level of lying shouldn't be allowed to effect her? wow
She's lucky the ML didn't throw her out the window near the end.
An indie film depicting the sad, toxic love story of a manipulative, sexist insecure young man and a mentally…
"An indie film depicting the sad, toxic love story of a manipulative, sexist insecure young man and a mentally and emotionally broken young woman who's been mistreated, abused and taken advantage of by every man in her life."
Clearly, you watched this while high. You have everything ass-backwards. She was the liar, cheater, and manipulator from the start. How did he manipulate HER? How is he "sexist?" The movie shows us almost nothing about WHY she is the way she is, but she's already that way at the beginning of the movie.
Moreover, Ishikawa is a terrible actress. She comes off here as a pouty baby totally unwilling to be responsible for her own choices. ugh That squeaky-voiced, scrunched-face pout she falls back on so often is the exact same vibe she used in the other film I saw her in. Her range as an actor is from A to B.
I'm guessing you're a neo-neo-feminist, one of those who believe women are NEVER culpable in the choices they make. Some evil man made them do every negative thing they ever chose to do, right?
This could have been a great movie. Kaneko Daichi is excellent as the ML and the plot was intriguing. However, I cannot bear the sour-face, pouty-mouth, baby-voice acting of Ishikawa Ruka. Terribly miscast, she simply wrecked the movie for me. This character needed to be a disturbed but attractive, young woman. Ishikawa played her as an annoying, off-putting little snot. There is nothing about her that Daichi's character would have fallen in love with. Spare me.
Almost halfway through but fighting right now to keep going. How does this little Ishikawa Ruka keep landing roles, especially in which we're to believe men drop at her feet? In both movies I've seen her in, she seems like a precocious nine-year-old with boobs, who for some reason has sex like she's a pro. Her resting-face expression is that of someone on the verge of a sneeze. ugh
I don't find her appealing in any way, and her acting is marginal. She does that Japanese weak, helpless, squeaky-voice woman thing over and over. Perhaps she appeals to straight men with Lolita fantasies, but I'd think even they would want someone cute. I checked her bio expecting to discover she's a nepo-baby, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
I'm stunned to see she won a Japanese prize for Best New Actress for this film. I guess the competition was weak in 2020.
Yes, and Mizuki's shady behavior is the only interesting thing about this show.
A live-action adaptation has to stand alone, on its own merit. Most of any given audience will NOT have read the source material. So yay for you if having read the webtoon helps you imagine things that aren't on the screen for the rest of us, but those things still aren't there, they are in your head.
I don't know why so many MDLers have difficulty grasping this concept.
I also like Kaneko. He's like glasses guy in that one with Toki and Sensei. Cuties in glasses! As for the one…
Has their age difference ever been addressed? Not that it's scandalous or anything. You know I don't care about that. But in the childhood flashbacks it seems Hiro is clearly several years older than Kai, and it seemed a little odd to me from the beginning that at those ages, an older kid like Hiro would deliberately befriend a significantly younger kid like Kai.
The childhood age difference seems like 5 or 6 years to me, which is a lot at that age. Honestly, the first time they were shown meeting at that age, I thought maybe there was a pervy motive on Hiro's part. Now THAT would be an interesting development. MDL would blow up. lol
Do you find the childhood age difference to be that much, or am I over-reading it?
Every bad choice, horrible decision, every lie told, if made by a woman, is the fault of a man. Got it.
Do you know what "infantilization" is? Look it up. That's what you're doing to this character.
I wrote my reply to you in five minutes. I've thoroughly enjoyed the other 1,435 minutes of my Sunday.
It doesn't matter to me how you react to the labels I put on you, they seem to fit quite well. I selected them in response to what YOU wrote; I didn't pull them out of my ass. If you choose to feel "belittled," well that is your choice.
Also, I had no idea this terrible actress was in this film when it started. I've seen one other of hers, and the problem was the same: everything about the movie was great except for her. But going forward, I will definitely avoid anything else she's in. Or do you think it necessary to "meet" actors too, before judging their work?
I've watched just about every BL in existence (except those out of Thailand in the last year, which I don't waste time even trying anymore.)
So, I'm pretty good at judging from the start of a show, whether or not I'm going to like it. I don't care for BLs with supernatural or science fiction premises; it just doesn't work for me; comes off as dorky. And it's my understanding from reading about this show that the character seeing the AI images/messages in front of his eyes is going to continue doing so throughout. Just...no.
I get into dramas that take place in the real world, with stories and characters that spring from real-world human emotions/actions/etc. Gimmicks like "oh, I'm inside a virtual game now!) don't work for me.
I speak only for myself. Those of you who love this sort of thing, please, enjoy! But I won't be among your number.
Dropped
5/10, all 5 points for the nakedness.
Seven minutes into the first episode...dropping. I can't stand this kind of juvenile, Saturday-morning-cartoon-vibe, Thai-style junk. I hate to see this sort of thing coming out of Korea now. Thailand makes 17 of these every week.
Dropped. And anything that can make me drop it in under eight minutes gets the death penalty:
1/10
Do you believe a woman is EVER responsible for her choices? It's hilarious you're blaming HIM for her flirting with and fucking her ex. Christ.
The sequel could be her time in the psych ward, but with a different actress, please.
So are you saying the real-world consequences of her cheating and psychopath-level of lying shouldn't be allowed to effect her? wow
She's lucky the ML didn't throw her out the window near the end.
Clearly, you watched this while high. You have everything ass-backwards.
She was the liar, cheater, and manipulator from the start. How did he manipulate HER? How is he "sexist?" The movie shows us almost nothing about WHY she is the way she is, but she's already that way at the beginning of the movie.
Moreover, Ishikawa is a terrible actress. She comes off here as a pouty baby totally unwilling to be responsible for her own choices. ugh That squeaky-voiced, scrunched-face pout she falls back on so often is the exact same vibe she used in the other film I saw her in. Her range as an actor is from A to B.
I'm guessing you're a neo-neo-feminist, one of those who believe women are NEVER culpable in the choices they make. Some evil man made them do every negative thing they ever chose to do, right?
Kaneko Daichi is excellent as the ML and the plot was intriguing. However, I cannot bear the sour-face, pouty-mouth, baby-voice acting of Ishikawa Ruka. Terribly miscast, she simply wrecked the movie for me. This character needed to be a disturbed but attractive, young woman. Ishikawa played her as an annoying, off-putting little snot. There is nothing about her that Daichi's character would have fallen in love with. Spare me.
More below.
Not recommended.
5/10
I don't find her appealing in any way, and her acting is marginal. She does that Japanese weak, helpless, squeaky-voice woman thing over and over. Perhaps she appeals to straight men with Lolita fantasies, but I'd think even they would want someone cute. I checked her bio expecting to discover she's a nepo-baby, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
I'm stunned to see she won a Japanese prize for Best New Actress for this film. I guess the competition was weak in 2020.
I don't know why so many MDLers have difficulty grasping this concept.
The childhood age difference seems like 5 or 6 years to me, which is a lot at that age. Honestly, the first time they were shown meeting at that age, I thought maybe there was a pervy motive on Hiro's part. Now THAT would be an interesting development. MDL would blow up. lol
Do you find the childhood age difference to be that much, or am I over-reading it?