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You reply to facts with misdirection and total BS you're making up as you go. I see you're hitting all the sweet spots of the current, fad thinking that people under the age of 20 have no brains.

Could you please explain in detail the scientific process through which minors magically turn from children into adults at midnight on their 20th birthday; how their brains immediately begin to function in a brand new way at that moment? I haven't been able to find that information on the Internet.

I know from a long life of experience that there are plenty of immature, asshole adults, and lots of teenagers far more wise than their elders. The false white lines you draw around human beings according to their age keeps you feeling safe and all-knowing, but you're full of it.

But beyond ALL of this, even if all the crap you spew were true, remains the fact that this actor has paid his debt to society, was punished and publicly humiliated, and lost his acting career for nearly TEN years. He doesn't owe you or any other loser netizen anything. He has shown for a long time that he is thoroughly rehabilitated, but you can't let it go because your need to feel better about yourself by trashing other, flawed humans, is much greater than your responsibility as a fellow human to forgive and forget.

BTW, he was sued by the young woman who prostituted herself for her career, and her parents. The lawsuit was settled out of court. I'd guess she came out of things much richer than when she went in. Also, she said NOTHING until the acting gigs she was hoping for failed to materialized. She was a frustrated, angry prostitute, just like the ones whose johns skip out of the hotel room without paying the fee.

I see.

Not that you'll stop, but I really want you to stop lying about this.
He was charged, tried, and convicted of two counts of PROSTITUTION WITH A MINOR. One count was dropped because he hadn't yet learned her age when that encounter took place.

Note that word, "PROSTITUTION." There was no rape or sexual assault, nor was he ever charged with such. Again, you're a liar.

Legal age of "adulthood" doesn't matter in this case. The young woman chose to have sex with the actor was 17 at the time, and legally able to CONSENT to sex with anyone, of any age, she decides, which she did. The words "statutory rape" are not mentioned in police records or court documents. You're just making shit up and LYING to fit your victim narrative, but Google is your friend.

People under the age of 20 are not mentally retarded, as you would have it. Most are more than capable of managing their behavior and choices, which is why 18-year-olds are allowed to enlist in the Korean military. The idea that 18-year-olds are competent to handle and discharge rifles, grenade launchers, missile launchers; to drive tanks and pilot fighter jets, but incompetent to decide who gets to put a penis in their vagina is patently absurd. And yes, Korean WOMEN can enlist in the military at the age of 18, even if you think they're too stupid and child-like to do so.

The fact that the actor had sex with a person ABOVE the age of consent does NOT make him legally guilty of sexual assault. This is another point I wish you'd stop lying about. Just because YOU call it sexual assault does not make it so.

I understand that you are a disgusting "netizen"-type, and that facts, actual events, and legal definitions mean nothing to you. You are much more interested in self-righteous notions of "morality, " and never-ending condemnation of other humans more accomplished than yourself. You're mostly pissed off that the actor hasn't killed himself yet. In your twisted mind, him taking his life would justify your bullshit.

Again, I hope he lives decades more and stars in lots of successful films and dramas, just to twist your panties.

No, we are NOT talking about "sexual assault." He was never charge, tried, or convicted of "sexual assault," yet you continue to lie and say that he was. Why do you do that?

The 17-year-old had sex with him because she thought it would land her a role in a film or drama production. She prostituted herself for her career. I doubt she's traumatized. If she is, it's only because he didn't follow through and get her a part.

"I take a neutral stance." lol BS You're calling this man a rapist when he was never even charged with such a thing. You are disgusting.

Oh, just because you SAY you haven't committed crimes, I"m to believe that? Why? I"ll be like you and assume you HAVE committed crimes.

From a legal standpoint, this actor has lived a flawless life for 22 years. Get off his back.

Of course not. Doing that would require thought and discernment, both of which you lack.

AGE OF CONSENT in Korea is SIXTEEN, as it was in 2002. The ages of sexual consent and legal adulthood are two entirely different things..."bro." Educate yourself before writing dumb things.

He was convicted of two counts of participating in PROSTITUTION, which means she was technically a prostitute. She sold her body for what she hoped would be a role in a film/drama. Why wasn't she charged and tried for this?

What's disgusting is MDLers constantly calling celebrities "rapists" who were never charged, tried, or convicted of any such crime. I see it here all the time. It's a standard tactic of the Psycho Korean Celeb/Fan Suicide Machine that has done a great job of regularly killing off Korean entertainers over the last 25 years. You killed Lee Sun Kyun just five months ago.

You're a hateful, self-righteous dolt, the kind who continue to harass and trash celebrities until they kill themselves. As a proud member of the Psycho Korean Celeb/Fan Suicide Machine, you should be proud.

The fact that you are unable to spell out words like SEXUAL ASSAULT, RAPE, SEX, ETC., makes it clear you have severe issues surrounding the issue of SEX.

Oh, why are you attacking and condemning someone "you don't know?" He's lived an honest life for 22 years. It's far past time you got a life of your own.

He said he didn't know she was under age the first time they had sex and the court believed him. He did NOT rape or sexually assault this person. He was never charged, tried or convicted oof any such thing. You are a liar. Oh, and she was a prostitute under the law which convicted him.

The question is WHY, since he has been punished and paid his debt to society, never had any legal problems in 22 years, and went ten years without finding work in the industry, you are still obsessed with criticizing this man. You should be praising him and any other convicted offender who turns their life around. He's a great example of how the rehabilitation process should work. Instead, you have a revealing need to trash him all these years later

"Model citizen," as you would know if you could read, refers to his ACTIONS, not what's going on his head. Actions are more important than words, and especially thoughts. If a person lives a crime-free life for 22 freaking years, it's far past time for weirdos like you to stop obsessing about it. I'm wondering what YOUR sex-related hangups are, that you can't stop thinking about this.

Finally, you seem to suggest that people should be assumed to be committing crimes, rather than the opposite, which is that all are assumed innocent until proven guilty. This is what the judicial system is based on.

This man was on probation for several years, which means he was reporting to a parole office and being watched carefully. Plus, he has been under a microscope for 22 years. If he were committing crimes, there's a good chance we'd know about it. What crimes are YOU committing that we don't know about?

Get over yourself. He didn't "rape" anyone, which makes you a liar. The 17-year-old prostitute knew exactly what she was doing, give me a break.

It was TWENTY-TWO YEARS ago. He was punished and has been a model citizen ever since. He didn't get work for almost a DECADE. But no punishment is ever enough for blood-thirsty, self-righteous types like you.

Plus, he's a fantastic actor. Your sad, psychotic need to cancel imperfect people is far too common in Korea and the very reason Korean celebrities kill themselves right and left. We lost Lee Sun Kyun because of your type just months ago. I'm guessing you're angry LKY hasn't killed himself too so you can gloat over that.

I hope he lives to be a hundred and does lots more dramas and films just to piss you off.

Given that I like the actorJang Eui Soo a great deal, it's unfortunate I have to say this is a boring abomination. The other lead is a terrible actor.

5/10

Great third watch. This gets better every time.

Highly recommended. 9/10

lol What the hell are you talking about? The acting was excellent; they behaved like real people. I think the realistic acting went over your head.

I think you're on the wrong show page, cause your comment sure as hell doesn't apply to this drama. It's one of the best BL series around.

An insultingly stupid film. Red herrings right and left, people who act suspicious and make bizarre choices for the sole purpose of misdirecting the audience, cops who assemble crowds of hysterical townies to watch over their shoulders as they investigate, cops who send reporters to do what they should be doing, reporters who confront serial killers holding slaughterhouse killing tools in dark places instead of calling the police, just incredibly moronic stuff here.

Absolutely terrible.

1/10

In regard to the over-wrought comments below shrieking "gay-baiting!," how would deliberately marketing a film as gay, even before its opening, make sense? You'd be luring a few gay viewers in early but then word would spread and the gay audience would dry up quickly. Meanwhile, you've lost a lot of the MUCH larger straight audience, even non-homophobes, who might just not be interested in a gay romance...from a marketing perspective, this is ass-backward (if true).

Perhaps it's been teased as gay in gay media and advertising? Regarding the poster, there are a shit-ton of very NOT-gay films on MDL with posters featuring two dudes facing each other in various permutations. Are they all gay-baiting?

MDLers with political/social agendas need to get a grip. Nothing featuring Fandy can be less than a 9/10. :D

"...biggest queerbaiting scandal of the 21st century." lol "...queer committee..." lol

Have you seen it?
If so, in what way is it "queer bait?"
If you haven't seen it, why did you write this bombastic comment?
It sounds like it didn't fit your political/social agenda, so you're trashing it regardless of anything else.
If you did watch it, where did you watch it so I can judge the film for myself?
Am I correct that you're one of the people who deliberately down-rated this film?

Then there's the simple fact that any flick starring Fandy Fan cannot possibly be rated less than a 9/10.

have you seen it?

I found it terrible and dropped it, but I'm wondering what this person means by their statement.

It's terrible. A few suspenseful moments, but the plot is full of holes and on multiple occasions relies on gross stupidity and absurd choices to make things move along. I dropped it with 30 minutes to go. It got so lame I couldn't bear to continue watching.

I hate that Lee Young Hoon somehow got sucked into this awful thing.

4/10 for the cinematography and the makeup near the end, otherwise, it would be 1/10