JohnGotti

Very good point!

Yeah, I agree. Wasn't the best, but not the worst either. It might have done better as even a "more mini series." Maybe, just 2 or 3 eps, or even 1 like they did in ReminderS and Skyy. Sometimes, lesser is better! lmao!

P.S. Also in agreement with My Day. Wow! It really sucks! Too many tropes, stereotypes, and useless exaggerations..

Totally agree! The final episode, IMO, was probably better than the whole last 4 eps of S1 and the first 4 eps of this "S1+." A little intimacy, a little bit of a story plot and a little connection of the characters is all it takes to make a decent ep.

Wow! What an interesting post! You made a great deal of sense, especially about making the story work with the creativity of the writers (and director). However, I would slightly disagree with one little thing, Can. IMO, Can's character was a little "off" as well. His character was no where as "timid" as he is portrayed in these early episodes. And, I think that Can's character was at times the comic relief the series needed. I don't see that in these first two eps. But, everything else, I totally agree!

You may be somewhat right about the actual incident. Although Techno's first words out his mouth the morning after were "my b*tt, my b*tt, and Kengkla telling him that they "did it." I agree you about the non-com fantasy issue. But, IMO sexual assault of any type (especially towards someone incapacitated) is just so wrong on many levels. And you're right about its prevalence. And, I think you may have seen my comment about the sexual assault of Type by Tharn (and fans dismissing it and giving Tharn a pass). I believe this is one of the reasons its still so prevalent -- let the couple be "cute, attractive, or adorable" and the sexual assault in okay. I'm just smh!!!

Yeah. I thought it was just so wrong on many levels. That pushed some of the advances that Thai BL's have made back at least the (5) years I mentioned.

Yep! You're right on that one!

And P.S. Don't forget that Tharn sexually assaulted Type, too! But, many fans just blew that off and gave Tharn a pass. WRONG!

You'll get no argument here! But, unfortunately that behavior (both evil and criminal) has existed in the BL world for far too long. And, you make a very good point about forgiveness and the value of forgiving the rapist. However, I believe that due to cultural differences, rape, sexual assault, etc., may not be viewed as the ugly, heinous crime that other cultures may view it. Because, it really creeps into the BL genre a great deal, or at least it used to. I just hope that those fans who actually like seeing that kind of thing become fewer and fewer. There's my two dollars worth! LMAO

You're soooo right! In LBC1, we got to see the progression of Tin and Can's relationship evolve and change over time. I really didn't see their story line as "enemies to lovers," but more "rich man/poor man." Guys from two different worlds. Tin was never really a "bad" person. He was simply stuck-up, snobbish and had the battle scars of his not so loving , albeit privileged childhood. And Can. He wasn't really just a comical airhead, but a guy who could actually see the good in people and had a good sense of family (something Tin admired and possibly envied of him). NOW, IMO, that was a good story! Finally, I'm not sure they could top that "Tin crying" scene at the end. It was great!

I agree and thanks!

Good point. I just thought the show was trying to replace Pete with a "Pete-like" version of Can. LoL I remember that about Pete in the novel as well. You're absolutely right.

P.S. FYI, I sometimes hate having to have to use "Reveal Spoiler," especially when posting about shows that have already been on and gone... Anybody else feel the same! lmao

I've already posted my dislike for "redos." Although, I don't really have a problem with "reboots." I'm just a little confused as to why the "redo" was done (or even needed) for the Tin/Can story (and not the others). IMO, from a plot standpoint, it's confusing and unnecessary. But, I'm NOT the writer or the producer or the director. It's their call, and I can choose whether or not I will watch it -- AND I WILL WATCH IT... even though I'm not necessarily happy will it. LoL

I said the before mentioned thought to make this point: WHY NOT A REDO ON THE TECHNO/KENGKLA STORY! IMO, again this story needed a redo! Given how far BL's have come in just the past (5) years, it was TOTALLY unnecessary to throw in another "victim falls in love with his RAPIST" story line. It added absolutely NOTHING to the original story except disgust, dislike, and disdain from many, many, many fans. THEN, to have the raped character "infer" (in season 2) that the act "felt good" was just a bit too much, even for a BL

OK, I'm now off my soapbox. Haters can now start hating! lmao

Okay, I can see that as well. I'm not necessarily against re-do's. It's just that if you're going to do it, why use the same actors??? Admit it, it's hard sometimes to see "familiar" actors/characters (characters we've come to know, love, or hate, etc.) suddenly become "different" characters within the same story plot. Then, slightly change the "plot" of the story (that we've already seen) to help reflect that change in the "new" characterizations. Again, hmmm!

These kinds of changes may be interesting. BUT, they're definitely confusing, sometimes challenging and occasionally irritating. IMO, if you're going to do a redo, then really "redo" it. Make the story different enough to be a fresh story, and similar enough (to the original stody) to bring out just enough of nostalgia to get the audience interested in watching it. Basically, like they did with 2Moons and 2Moons2, and just about every reboot done in Hollywood in the USA. I'm just sayin.... LoL

I do like that they changed Tin's brother. Unfortunately, I'm not so sure about the "re-do," especially Can's personality. He's lost something. If I didn't know better, their making Can be more like a poor version of "Pete". IMO.

Yeah, it was AWFUL!

Me too! But, I get the impression that they're going to change it where Techno wasn't really drunk or something to that effect. It's terrible!

I think they made it much worse, IMO! Techno also said that "it felt so good!" OMG! Getting raped while you're passed out feels good! I'm sorry. That is just wrong on soooo many levels.....

Yeah, you're right. It's really sad!!!!!!!