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The sad truth is a lot of people have a weird fetish for the Omega Verse, and are fairly desperate for any live action content with it. Look at how much people like PitBabe, an objectively awful show.

You're a guy, so are you a fan of any sports team? I know a lot of men who have their favorite team's merchandise all over their house. They have their favorite team member's jersey, they have parties at their house to watch their team play, they dress up and paint their face and buy very expensive tickets to go to the game. They know their win/lose ratio and all sorts of stats. These are grown adults in their 30s, 40s, 50s.

Think of adult kpop fans like that. There's a range, from casual fans, to more obsessive ones. Yes, it can get too extreme like the saesangs in this how. But it can also just be a hobby, same as anything else.

Nooo, I hope they met as adults! I'm so tired of childhood connections.

I just had time to catch up, and as always this show stresses me out. The comments have already discussed most topics better than I could, especially about the ending of episode 12, with Xiao bringing in Shulang's mentor behind his back. I was pisssssed at first. After all this, yet another deception?? But I read that this is Xiao's way to get Shulang back into the industry that he likes, and that makes sense. Xiao doesn't know how to do literally anything in a healthy way, lol. This is as close as he can get to a nice gesture I suppose.

I'm a little confused about the data that Shulang copied, someone said that Xiao can go to prison because of it. But why? Wouldn't Shulang be the one in trouble? (sorry if this is obvious, I'm not super focused on the corporate espionage. the mental anguish is taking up all my attention) I felt like poor Shulang is slipping, it was so obvious that Xiao knew what his plan was and let him do it. They're both in bad states, though I still don't feel any sympathy for Xiao. I mean, I get it. The trauma and such, but still. He's not really that likeable currently. It's a credit to the show that I keep watching, this isn't my normal vibe at all. Look at my username. But it's too good, I have to see it through.

On a side note, I was impressed by how many people in Shulang's life have been willing to step up and help him. The lady that he saved his ex from, and his new boss. They saw Xiao and clocked him as a madman right away and offered to step in.

I like how the show presents Pheem as the "nice guy" and Koh as the "bad guy" but it's only surface level. At first I really didn't like Koh, but now he has dimension and is easily the most interesting and multifaceted character in the show imo. Pheem however, has become the bad guy in my mind. Or, if not straight up bad, at least not fully good either. He's not what he seems. He's deeply competitive, and I think bitter that his childhood friend got more successful than he did.

Also, I agree that fixed pairings are silly, but in this case I'm not rooting for DewGun at all. Maybe in the first couple episodes, but not anymore. Everyone has great chemistry, the cast in this is amazing. But Pheem and Jira are doomed as a couple. Pheem is a little too eager to sleep with Jira, and Jira seems to be using Pheem to distract himself from his growing attraction to Koh. Honestly, I feel like Dew-stans are just talking about his looks and not really paying attention to the plot.

Right now Gun's character feels relatable to me. His new job is a little weird and his boss is eccentric. His personal life is being impacted and he's struggling to set boundaries. He's also trying to pursue his passion for art at the same time. Basically being pulled in many different directions.
I was worried that he'd cry and cry and be pathetic like in Theory of Love (which I didn't like, sorry to all the fans) and hopefully that doesn't happen. Yes, I know we ended in the shower and maybe it'll be a mirror image of the ToL scene but I have hope that it won't. Please less crying, I'm begging the BL gods.
Off's character has grown on me significantly since the first couple episodes. He's not a good person, but he's... interesting. I can work with interesting.

People are taking this way too seriously, lol. I'm honestly wondering what people thought this drama would be like, it's been cringy since episode one. I understand if that's not everyone's taste, and that's cool. But some of us are here for something light and silly. I'm here for the ML hiding behind a watering can. I'm here for drunken bonding and evil sibling plotting.
Maybe it's not the best thing I've ever watched, but it's checking the right boxes. I'm not going to fuss about how the 2FL is being a bit pushy (she's a chaebol daughter, she's used to getting what she wants) and I'm going to let the 2ML slide, even though he makes me roll my eyes. This isn't the sort of show I'm going to dissect and analyze.

Partway through episode 10 and I think this is where I drop it sadly. The story has gotten nowhere, I think we've gone backwards actually. But my breaking point is the mom. She abandoned her son to an abusive father, started a new family, went no contact, and now she walks back into Ice's life by accident. Right? I mean last episode she happened to come to that relative's house and see them making the film, it wasn't like she looked for her son.
So in this episode she helps make some food that Ice used to like, cries, and gives him a hug. Then she revels that she never spent the money Ice was sending her. What?? He was sending her money even after she ran away to start a new life? Now she's like "I didn't spend your money" like it's some amazing accomplishment. Then she cries more and he forgives her because... I literally have no idea.
They shouldn't have had this story arc. But I suppose they had to do something because Saint is still being the biggest coward possible. I made excuses for him for 10 episodes but I'm done.

You know, I've been so mad and hating on Xiao this whole show, but by episode 10 I'm lowkey respecting the writers for not backing down with his character. He's totally crazy and irredeemable. Every time he had a chance to become a better person he doubled down on being evil. Yes, I'd like a redemption arc, but I barely care anymore. I feel like Shulang at this point, given up. It's been a long time since I genuinely didn't want the leads to get together and now I'm watching two shows where I feel like that. (Burnout Syndrome)
A while ago there was a comment about this sort of drama, that it's not about a happy ending or if the toxic character deserves the "good" character. I hate it and love it at the same time. Which is pretty much the point, isn't it?

Haha, sorry that particular trope just ruins it for me. Anyway, I find childhood romances so overdone, but The First Frost is an exception. It loved that show.

I just watched the trailer and it's a very hard no for me. There's a clip where they're kids and the boy feeds the little girl a strawberry, and then it cuts to them grown up, the ML feeding the FL a strawberry. Then it cuts and she calls him brother. This is... so insanely creepy to make into a romance.

I wanted to watch that but then I saw the description says the leads were raised as siblings as kids, and I just hate that. I know they're not blood related, but I find it weird. That's something I like about Dynamite Kiss, the leads met as adults.

This has a high rating so I tried it... Yikes. It's my fault for not noticing the "cousins relationship" in the tag. Other than that, it's very flat imo. The one lead is just plain mean. The other lead has totally different personalities from scene to scene. If I'm going to watch a drama with toxic relationships, there are better examples.

This show has me stressing out. I'm waiting for Xiao to hit rock bottom, I hoped we'd be there in this episode but no, he's still plotting. That last scene, in the little room (closet?), was really good but I need more. I thought that in the end he'd resolved to not go to hell, since Shulang won't be there with him. But I guess he got even more resolved to drag Shulang down with him. What does he think he'll get out of this new situation? It'll make Shulang hate Xiao even more...
Meh, if they just get back together without any resolution I'll be so pissed. Everyone keeps telling me that doesn't happen, but I need to see it to believe it.
Thank goodness there's another episode tomorrow.

Yay, things are moving along! Great episode for the most part.
I don't watch whatever show the lawyers are on, and found it weird. It ruined what should have been a really serious scene. The mom is finally standing up to the awful man who has literally caused her to try to take her own life. It's a very brave thing, and the show inserted a comedic cameo. Made a joke of it.

Fascinating. It's walking a thin line, to be entertained by such a toxic concept, but not endorsing it. I do hope that the resolution is somewhat satisfying, because yes they may be fictional characters, but I'll be disappointed if the show just shrugs and gets them back together without any significant character development. I'm worried at the reference to Gothic romance, because those usually end real badly for everyone.

The last 10-15 minutes of episode 8 was so good. I went from being devastated thinking that Shulang was going to fall for Xiao's lies, to being happy that he didn't, to being sad to see him so broken. I was so angry at Xiao (and still am) but that last bit where he's freaking out in his head because he really doesn't want to go, that was brilliant. I mean, he's still a twisted gaslighting bastard, but... It gave me the crumbs I needed to see that his character is redeemable.
What happened with the ex? Was he just sitting there the whole time? I feel extra bad for him, even though he made a dumb decision to break up with Shulang, I feel like he's paid for it. He's not a bad guy. I just realized there's no second couple in this show, and it doesn't need one.
Anyway, I'm just typing a stream of consciousness at this point lol.

Literally that pissed me off so much in ABO Desire, "I know it was wrong but I had to do it! I just loved you sooo much!!" Then the other lead was like "okay" and that was it. They really took so much potential and flushed it down the toilet. If that happens with this show I'll be so mad. They have two really strong leads, and it won't be right if Shu Lang accepts Xiao back easily.

Yeah, J goes from fighting with Jinn to acting like they've been together for years. It makes sense that Jinn would be a little lost. He wants to experience the beginning of the relationship.

This is like an old-school kdrama. Misunderstandings, convenient illnesses or injuries, poor-FM rich-ML, jealous best friend, family trauma. If you're worried about too cliche, it might not be for you lol. I'm enjoying it, it's not too serious but not too silly if that makes sense.